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Jun 29, 2019 15:24:12   #
JFlorio wrote:
Don't you know? His sites are sacrosanct and ours are trash.


Interesting that you are still crying about this. Since you imbeciles keep trash talking legitimate, factual sources, I have decided to show you people just what kinds of trash you have been reading and fully believing in for so long. Since your sources aren't factual, they are in fact trash, enjoy your slop.
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Jun 29, 2019 15:20:26   #
ACP45 wrote:
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"Through May fiscal year 2019, agents apprehended 56,278 children (74% more than 2018), 332,981 family units (463% more), and 204,248 single adults (27% more).

Border Patrol agents on the southwest border apprehended 132,887 i*****l i*******ts in May alone, while the running total for fiscal year 2019 stands at 787,161 through May – roughly the population of Seattle or Denver.

Most are claiming asylum, a legal loophole that leaves Border Patrol agents with few options but to process their claims and release them into the U.S. while they await adjudication, which takes years."

How will your liberal spin sites try to spin the numbers in this article? http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-hundreds-of-haitians-africans-wade-through-rio-grande-stroll-into-u-s-carrying-luggage/
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Do you EVER get any information from any reliable sources? It appears not.

Media Bias/Fact Check wrote:
Overall, we rate the American Mirror Questionable based on extreme right wing bias and promotion of misleading propaganda.
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Jun 29, 2019 00:55:35   #
JFlorio wrote:
Please list what you consider credible sources.


Sources that are factual, there are quite a few of them, Of course you will deny that any actual factual sites are indeed factual even though you would offer no proof that they aren't. It doesn't take much effort to discover the factual ones. Most can be ascertained just by reading their headlines. Typically speaking, the more salacious the headline, the less trustworthy the source but not always.

Politico is decent, as is Investopedia, I also read somewhat frequently from The Hill. Of course that is but a few of the sources I tend to read from. There are many others too. Much better than the trash many here read from.
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Jun 29, 2019 00:28:00   #
JFlorio wrote:
You lose again.


Yes, I know, because I am not participating in your petty insult slinging then yes, I would naturally lose the insult fight.
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Jun 29, 2019 00:25:54   #
JFlorio wrote:
There are people smarter than me. You may even be one. However; you don’t prove it on OPP. Everyone’s sources are trash but yours. It’s the same on every subject you enter into. You are good at cherrypicking. You shouldn’t bother reading mine or anyone else’s posts who disagrees with you. You are incapable of civil discourse. Typical liberal. Most intolerant people in the world. Now go ahead and spew your trash.


Care should be taken to ensure that one's sources are factual. I have at times included less trustworthy sites in some of my posts but they are usually backed by many more factual sources and they just add "padding" to the more factual sources and I also try to remember to point out their trustworthiness, or apparent lack thereof. When it comes to untrustworthy sources, why bother reading them? Are they offering comedic relief? Do they offer some entertainment value to counter the fact that they aren't worth reading for factual content? If I wish to read fiction, it will at least offer some entertainment value or I am just wasting my time.
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Jun 29, 2019 00:08:10   #
JFlorio wrote:
So you don’t v**e in the Primaries? Only reason I’m a registered Republican. I would have no Party affiliation otherwise. So without reading someone’s comments you already have made up your mind about that someone. Yet everyone else but you are clueless. Your sources are impeccable and everyone who disagrees with you ; Their sources are trash. Maybe you’re not a troll. More like a l*****t elitist snob.


True, I can not v**e in primaries, I also get mailings from both parties, as well as calls. The rest of your reply is just your typical garbage. Making unfounded assumptions, petty attempts at insults and still nothing of substance.
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Jun 29, 2019 00:04:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
There is no corporate entity that owes any loyalty to any nation... With the possible exception of Huawei... Scary...


True, and this is why American companies outsourcing jobs get less respect from me than foreign companies keeping jobs in the country they are based in. American companies keeping Jobs in the U.S. get the most respect from me of course. I like American products made by American companies, made in the U.S. with American materials/components the best, followed by foreign products made in the U.S., followed by foreign goods made in their own country and lastly, American products made in other countries. Of course that is if all things are equal, if the quality isn't there, then it affects the order. Without quality, price and origins are of no consequence.
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Jun 28, 2019 23:53:54   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
What is wrong with the content of the paper? It's reasoning? Its predictions of the future? Articulate your objections to it's content, rather than just bloviating and acting all superior, ignoring it's content.


It's author. Find one written by a credible author and let me know.
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Jun 28, 2019 23:51:10   #
JFlorio wrote:
Just attacked me on another thread, then admitted it doesn’t read my comments. These snowflakes are something else.


How many times do I have to state the same thing, I don't read trash and most of your posts, if not all, are nothing of any substance and feeble attempts at insults aimed towards people smarter than yourself. Explain to me why I would bother reading your posts, aren't they all the same? I was only telling that person that they could just ignore you since you don't ever seem to bring anything of substance to any topics and only try to insult those of differing view points.

If you would like to prove me wrong, feel free to offer something of substance to any topic and perhaps make an attempt at not resorting to childish insults in EVERY reply. I don't see it happening but...
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Jun 28, 2019 23:45:20   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
You seem pretty emotionally agitated about this. I'd say it's something you have no answer for; that it shoots down your religion, so to speak. Thus, you act like a lunatic, pontificating about how it is below you and you wouldn't waste your time on it. LOL! Without even reading it. LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Some people do not wish to waste their time on reading trash, then there is people like yourself where all they ever bother reading IS trash.
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Jun 28, 2019 22:45:42   #
factnotfiction wrote:
Well at least for Apple and China, that is.

Can't wait to hear what kind of lie trump will make up about this.

Oh yeah, another example of f**e news.





http://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/28/apple-moves-mac-pro-production-from-the-us-to-china.html


Yes, read the WHOLE article. If you don't, you may miss some of it's key points.

CNBC wrote:
KEY POINTS
Apple is moving Mac Pro assembly out of the U.S. and into China, CNBC confirms Friday.
The move comes as Apple is reportedly considering moving some production out of China due to trade tensions.
Apple has warned the U.S. trade representative that tariffs on China would hurt its contribution to the U.S. economy.


Of course that little tidbit was at the top of the article. Notice how they ARE moving production of the Mac Pro TO China but only CONSIDERING moving some production of other devices/components OUT of China and no word on WHERE that production will be moved to, IF it is even moved.

A tad later in the article it states:

CNBC wrote:
But the assembly shift for the Mac Pro from the U.S. to China will help reduce shipping costs, according to the Journal. The Shanghai factory where it will be assembled is closer to Apple’s other suppliers in Asia, the Journal reported


Much of the components of Apple products come from a companies based and/or manufacturing these components elsewhere in the world, many in Asia with some of the companies ALSO producing some components in the U.S. as well as elsewhere. Of the 9 hardware suppliers I located for components used by Apple, 4 are American companies, the remaining 5 are from, Switzerland - 1, S. Korea - 1, China -1, and Japan - 2. Of the 4 American components manufacturers, at least 3 of them have manufacturing facilities elsewhere in the world besides just in the U.S., the last one is uncertain. This helps explain why manufacturing in China is so attractive to Apple Corp.

And if you failed to read the entire article, you could have missed this little tidbit:

CNBC wrote:
Apple may still shift Mac Pro assembly out of China as it considers its options if trade tensions continue to grow. A source told the Journal the production could be moved to another country, such as Ireland.


Then you wouldn't know that China may lose the production of the Mac Pro as well as The U.S. has, it could go to Ireland next maybe.


All in all, NOTHING in that article is any certain good news for we Americans, we may get jobs brought back in, we may not.
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Jun 28, 2019 20:29:37   #
JFlorio wrote:
LOL. Can’t read or comprehend. I just called Trump a liar but you missed that. Know why? Because you’re nothing but a bomb thrower. Just watched you get slapped around on another thread. So now you jump in on this one and make a fool of yourself. What a troll. By the way, my party sucks. Yours just sucks worse.


Perhaps I missed you calling Trump a liar because I tend to ignore your posts as they tend to be nothing more than your feeble attempts at insulting others with nothing of substance to them so I tend not to bother reading them.

Interesting assessment you have there, "Just watched you get slapped around on another thread.". Since what I post is facts to counter the lies of others, I would think your assessment of that other thread is incorrect. The only one making a fool of themselves is you with your unfounded opinions based on lies you pick up from your favored media sources.

Furthermore, since I have NO party, my "party" can't suck any worse than your own does. It is awfully hard for a non-existent party to suck.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:49:21   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Describe how its trash. Lol! You have no clue!


What part of,

Media Bias Fact check wrote:
Overall, we rate the Heartland Institute Right Biased and Questionable based on promotion of anti-science propaganda, lack of t***sparency with funding, and more than 5 failed fact checks by IFCN fact checkers.



Source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/heartland-institute/



Wikipedia wrote:
2012 documents incident
On February 14, 2012, the g****l w*****g blog DeSmogBlog published more than one hundred pages of Heartland documents said to be from the Institute. Heartland acknowledged that some internal documents had been stolen,[125] but said that one, the "Climate Strategy memo", was forged to discredit Heartland.[128][129][130]

The documents were initially anonymously sourced, but later found to have been obtained by climate scientist Peter Gleick.[130][131] The documents included a fundraising plan, board of directors meeting minutes, and the organization's 2012 budget.[132][133] The documents were analyzed by major media, including The New York Times, The Guardian, United Press International and the Associated Press. Donors to the Institute included the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation, Microsoft, General Motors, Comcast, Reynolds American, Philip Morris, Amgen, Bayer, GlaxoSmithKline, P****r and Eli Lilly, liquor companies, and an anonymous donor who had given $13 million over the past five years.

The documents contained details of payments to support climate skeptics and their programs, namely the founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change Craig Idso ($11,600 per month), physicist Fred Singer ($5,000 plus expenses per month), geologist Robert M. Carter ($1,667 per month) and $90,000 to blogger and former meteorologist Anthony Watts. The documents also revealed the Institute's plan to develop curriculum materials to be provided to teachers in the United States to promote climate skepticism, plans confirmed by the Associated Press.[115][125][134][135][136][137] The documents also disclosed Heartland's $612,000 plan to support Wisconsin Act 10 and to influence the Wisconsin's recall e******ns called "Operation Angry Badger."[125][138] Carter and Watts confirmed receiving payments.[135]

Several environmental organizations called on General Motors and Microsoft to sever their ties with Heartland. Climate scientists called on Heartland to "recognise how its attacks on science and scientists have poisoned the debate about c*****e c****e policy."[28]

Gleick described his actions in obtaining the documents as "a serious lapse of my own and professional judgment and ethics" and said that he "deeply regret[ted his] own actions in this case". He stated that "My judgment was blinded by my frustration with the ongoing efforts—often anonymous, well-funded, and coordinated—to attack climate science and scientists and prevent this debate, and by the lack of t***sparency of the organizations involved."[139] On February 24 he wrote to the board of the Pacific Institute requesting a "temporary short-term leave of absence" from the Institute.[140][141] The Board of Directors stated it was "deeply concerned regarding recent events" involving Gleick and the Heartland documents, and appointed a new Acting Executive Director on February 27.[142] Gleick was later reinstated to the Pacific Institute after an investigation found Gleick did not forge any documents, and he apologized for using deception to get the documents.
2012 documents incident br On February 14, 2012, t... (show quote)



Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute#2012_documents_incident



http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2013/09/09/heartland-institute-nipcc-fail-the-credibility-test/

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/feb/15/leak-exposes-heartland-institute-climate

https://sourcewatch.org/index.php/Heartland_Institute

https://homelesscrisisinsfcompanies.tech.blog/2019/03/19/assessing-the-heartland-institute-and-its-credibility/

http://climatechangereconsidered.org/climatesciencewatch-com-heartland-institute-and-its-nipcc-report-fail-the-credibility-test-september-9-2013/



In the interest of fairness I was going to include the following two links but they fail to open.


https://www.heartland.org/about-us/reply-to-critics/index.html

https://www.heartland.org/about-us/what-theyre-saying/index.html



It would seem that Heartland Institute ISN'T trustworthy nor would I think it's faculty, of which Peter Ferrara, the Author of the Piece OP has presented published in Forbes' Opinion section, is one such faculty member.


Bonus information, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ferrara, do you not understand?


You ARE aware that Peter Ferrara was the author of that opinion piece, that he works at and contributes to the works of Heartland Institute, that he shares their ideologies, biases and lack of credibility, right? Tnat is what makes that piece trash.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:40:22   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Lol! I love how you don't read! Lol!!

It's over you, anyway.

And I'll bet I'm exactly right about you,too.


Correct, I DON'T read trash, it is better burned than read. You are incorrect that anything it can post is above my ability to comprehend, if you can even read it, whether you can understand it or not, then it isn't likely beyond my comprehension. As for your bet... I doubt you are EVER right about ANYTHING, I had to change the parameters of your first sentence to even make your first statement correct if that tells you anything.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:35:24   #
JediKnight wrote:
Oh, I see, I hurt your feelings right? Let me just say that "fighting" is a child's response to a post....and I'll leave that at that. J: 99.999% of what is written here is someone's opinion - yours, mine, or theirs. I have no problem admitting that. However, "for those who have ears let them hear, for those who have eyes let them see." No matter who is reporting it, you see for yourself what Trump is doing everyday. You say you v**ed against Hillary because "you believe she is a criminal and a g*******t" -which is fine -makes sense. However, NOW that Trump has proven he is not a caped crusader as he portrayed himself to be - you still support and even dare try to defend him -yet you call me a hypocrite. What I post about Trump - or anything else for that matter is based on published facts - my opinion and your opinion (I assume) is based on those facts. Such as Trump is a liar: it wasn't me who said "Mexico will pay for the wall." I never once said, "I have a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days," nor have I ever said, "I have a great new health plan ready to go on Day One" nor was it me who said "I will release my taxes if I win the e******n." Your anger is misdirected. I am not your enemy. We may differ in our "opinions" -but I assume that just like me, you put your pants on one leg at a time. Perhaps it is because I dare point out Trump's flaws that you're upset with me. Sad, but I can deal with it.....question is; can you?
Oh, I see, I hurt your feelings right? Let me just... (show quote)


You of course know that you are just wasting your time with that one right? He will never admit he is wrong, he will never admit that Trump has flaws, he will never admit to anything that may make his party look bad or the Democratic party look anything but evil.
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