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Mar 18, 2020 19:48:34   #
lindajoy wrote:
I don’t know either, there were so many different stories and conspiracies out there I’m still banking on the fact that China screwed up early on on not addressing it and telling everyone what was really going on at that point. And the Dems ran with it to incite panic and fear to intentionally tank the economy since it was doing so well and everything else they tried didn’t work. We won’t even get into the fact that they don’t not have anyone competition wise to debate Trump let alone win the e******n.

You can also bet they will stall everything they can relative to these bills that have passed as we sit waiting until they now prepare what is needed to actually put it in motion and they will once again blame the Republicans for it... That is a part of the equation for e******n after all,.. Look at how the dumped even more money than Trump was asking for just so they could include all those sneaky little pork belly BS they tried to get through....
I don’t know either, there were so many different ... (show quote)


C***d was the golden opportunity for the democrats with China joining in because is blocking their efforts to screw us over. The democrats are willing to go back to status quo with China and, as yhou said, tank the economy, to get rid of Trump. It is so easy to compare to 2009 and the H1N1 v***s which k**led over a thousand before a National Emergency was declared and then over the next year k**led another 11,500 and during all of that, zero panic, zero of anything like we have now.

I guess I am no longer friends with the guys I know who work in that field since I dared to ask why that is; why they are supporting such an over reaction. The reason, of course, they are Trump h**ers as well and also know that the preparedness actually fall on them. It makes them truly angry for me to have asked. Of course I asked a few different times and in different ways. LOL!

I expect the national shelter in place order to come through any day now.
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Mar 18, 2020 18:44:29   #
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-responsible-testing-problems-things/story?id=69590286

"“I don't take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time,” he told reporters. “It wasn't meant for this kind of an event with the kind of numbers that we're talking about.”

Exactly right, that falls to Obama's "p******c response team." That's what their name says they are. It's in their name!!!!
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Mar 18, 2020 18:37:29   #
son of witless wrote:
This is your opportunity to elaborate on the differences. I know if I was invited to expound on what I said, I wouldn't let it pass because I have a big mouth. I realize the differences in the diseases. What I am more interested in is your take on the differences between China and Africa.


I was comparing ebola with C***d, not China with Africa.
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Mar 18, 2020 18:32:00   #
woodguru wrote:
It's all great to defy projections, wh**ever that means, but we can look at numbers now and how they are increasing and know it's getting worse before it gets better.

The numbers by e******n time depends on how effectively social interaction and quarantining goes. Right now we are headed for the Italian model, they haven't got enough hospital facilities so they are choosing who gets treated and who gets left at home to die, the preference being for younger people with kids.

Trump set us back several weeks from where we should be, that will equate to thousands or tens of thousands of deaths.
It's all great to defy projections, wh**ever that ... (show quote)


Trump, Trump, Trump. Trump did not cause the slow roll out of testing. It was slowed by un-needed regulations left over from the Obama administration. Regulations everywhere. If anything, Trump aided in things getting rolling as well as they should have. Again, the Obama "p******c response team" failed to be prepared to respond, this despite increased funding of the CDC et al.

Just admit it wood, the Obama "p******c response team" left us unprepared to "respond." That much is clear as day!!! They had ten years to think through the needs for preparedness. They could have stocked up on ventilators. They could have had multiple facilities ready to manufacture test kits. Y'all's panic, itself, has slowed things down.

With Trump trying to restrict incoming from China a full month before any democrat even mentioned it, what did Trump do to slow things down? Would it have gone faster had the president himself panicked and screamed the sky is falling? LOL! Y'all would have proclaimed him a reactionary and played it down yourselves.

I will be something with you woody. I'll bet the death toll in the US due to c****av***s this year will be less than the US death toll of H1N1 was in it's first year. In fact, I'll bet its nearly half; that's about 6000 or so.
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Mar 18, 2020 17:26:43   #
jwrevagent wrote:
I wonder what would happen if people would relax, take a deep breath, think rationally, and decide to get together anyway-what would the governor of the State of WI do? Call out the National Guard to force people back in their homes? What if these same people were armed? Our governor is a Democrat, and not a very good governor to my way of thinking-we have had better Dem governors-and he throws his tantrums when the Republican held legislature reigns him in a bit-What would diBlasio and Cuomo do if people decided to ignore the orders to close restaurants and bars and gather anyway? This is, of course, a good way to at least put a damper on our freedom of assembly, not? And what if most of the people who gathered were armed? Does NY have enough police to force the issue? Would they want to? And what if then this whole idea spread throughout the country? I do not trust our government, nor our law enforcement to tell us the t***h about anything-they have shown themselves to be liars and not to be trusted. So why are we meekly following orders now? When will we learn that we are free? But we can willingly give up that freedom when we buy into the tales from DC and Capitals of states. Just a thought. Just ruminating. Haven't decided what I believe. but I am skeptical.
I wonder what would happen if people would relax, ... (show quote)


So why are we meekly following orders now?

A great question!!!
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Mar 18, 2020 17:22:42   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
As many as possible to blame on Trump is your wish.


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Mar 18, 2020 17:22:25   #
Lonewolf wrote:
hard to tell we went from 5000 cases this am to over 6000 now whats your guess


Not cases, deaths.
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Mar 18, 2020 17:13:11   #
How many will actually die by e******n day? Take a guess. The one who gets the closest wins. I defy their projections!
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Mar 18, 2020 17:10:37   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/18/the-latest-on-c****-**-suggests-most-of-us-will-be-fine/


Yep, so they get "experts" to produce "studies" and "simulations" which project millions will die in just the next six months. Ridiculous!!
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Mar 18, 2020 17:07:32   #
peg w wrote:
If onen more person refeares th the C****a v***s or the c***d19 v***s as the Chineese v***s I am going to go nuclear. Calling it anything other than its proper name is putting a r****t spin on a p******c. This is totally unacceptable. We don't need any more r****t bull s**t.


Can we at least call it the Trump h**ers panic, or the l*****t panic?
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Mar 18, 2020 17:05:44   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
You know how eager the democraps are to work with Trump. When they finally did Pelosi tried putting a $Billion dollar for a******ns waver in the bill. Getting a picture yet? This is what Trump's had all of his presidency. He was going to let the DACA program work, they wouldn't come to the table. Want an irony? a few really. Both Clintons and Soros are in the really high-risk group for C****a. I think the hag already has MS.


I'll bet they are hiding like mice, too! I wonder what the reaction would be if they got it and kicked the bucket?
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Mar 18, 2020 17:03:43   #
maximus wrote:
I beg to differ. In 2009, Obama didn't declare a national emergency until April, ( 4 months), and AFTER 1,000 adults and 100 children died. Everything was pretty calm, nobody condemned Obama, no shortage of TP or hand sanitizer. Trump and Obama made lots of the same policy decisions, but due to the over dramatizing of this v***s, Trump gets condemned, even though he has moved quicker than Obama, and responded to the panic spreading media by doing far more to bolster the economy. If you were alive in 2009, then you know what the difference is! Democrats and the media have thought of nothing but getting Trump out of office since before he took office. Why would any logical person think that this attack on the POTUS is any different?
I beg to differ. In 2009, Obama didn't declare a n... (show quote)


That says it all. Most don't even remember 2009 or 2010 simply because of the lack of media hype. And that was before there was even a flu v*****e.
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Mar 18, 2020 16:59:05   #
woodguru wrote:
The total about face we are seeing among those on the right reflects the sudden revelation that oh crap, this is real, this is going to k**l thousands of people, and tens or hundreds if we don't respond...with an underlying message that we are already following in Italy's footsteps with blowing this off as no big thing.

Coming to this realization has an accompanied realization that a timeline placed next to what this president knew, what he said to the public, and the steps he actually did not take despite an array of warnings to do to heed the advice of experts...leaves no other conclusion that Trump was more than adequately informed that delays would k**l tens of thousands of people.

And the most glaring realization when this comparison is made between what the facts are, and that the mainstream media was right all along while their president and sources passed this off as f**e news and a partisan h**x. How can one who is facing this reality fail to also notice who has been lying all along when we know now what the reality always was, that warnings were justified?

This is going to get worse, both financially and in terms of the danger of seeing people get sick and die...and we are not going to be able to get away from the realization that the lies and incompetence of our president made this far worse. Half of the country already knew this, this is going to be hard on those who believed and had faith in this incompetent fool.
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I know you just can't admit it but Trump has done just fine, especially since there was no preparedness in place from the previous admin's "p******c response team" or the CDC. He was reacting and making efforts to begin the resistance while being impeached. The democrats did zero because that was all they were focused on. When Trump decided to halt incoming flights from China y'all scoffed, saying he was r****t and over reacting. He made comments to try to prevent panic but the media and y'all hyped it up anyway, making up stories that Trump wasn't doing anything, as if he runs the CDC itself and blaming the panic on his trying to actually reduce y'all's over reaction. Y'all were fomenting while he was remaining calm.

Certainly people are looking more closely at their information sources. LOL! Yes, they are watching much more closely the media spinners. It bothers them that many are unable to make a living on hype that might turn out to be just hype, or over hyped fear mongering. Many are beginning to get a taste of the robber freedoms as a result of that hype. They are doing more of their own research, seeing what the actual numbers are and the actual risk groups are. Many are now figuring out that although they might get sick or ill, for most it will be mild and the odds are in their favor for a favorable outcome. They are beginning to think in more realistic terms. Seeing the utter collapse of the stock market perplexes them and makes them think there is an underlying agenda going on here, at their expense; namely, the agenda to get rid of Trump at severe cost to them while y'all continue to rake in the advertising and click bait cash!!

Yep, they are reassessing! For sure!!
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Mar 18, 2020 16:44:14   #
Tug484 wrote:
You nailed it.
Since the v***s seems to be bad in Washington, I think they need to send a bunch home in Congress.
Work with a skeleton crew and we might find out we don't need that many people up there.


True. They already work like there is just a few up there as it is.
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Mar 18, 2020 16:22:03   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
Hunker down and you'll be fine.


LOL! I'm not worried in the least but for having to deal with those who are.
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