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Oct 2, 2019 08:46:38   #
proud republican wrote:
What about Republicans????..They also should be able to say something...Don't they???


House ratio
197 Republicans 235 Democrats
1 Independents 2 *Vacancies
Collins and Duffy resignation became active by the 30th last month.

About the time for reps to have their say is now when the inpreachment articles are being discussed, the way government is suppose to work one side talks to the other to convince the other to come to their side. If enough of the dems realign themselves to the belief that there is nothing worthy for the Articles to go forward then the inpreachment is not presented to the Senate.
The final v**e will be intresting to know.
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Oct 1, 2019 23:08:47   #
Peewee wrote:
Not according to what I read years ago. Correct me if I'm wrong. One of the two or maybe both Coffee and Weddington worked for the ACLU and sought out McCorvey and mislead her. Basically they used her to present their case to promote a******n. The right to privacy based on the Ninth Amendment seems flimsy and invented to me. Sort of like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. and Marshall saying if the fetus attains personhood it would attain personhood with all the attached rights. When clearly every fetus/baby that is allowed to be born turns out to be a human, not something else. The right to a******n seems to have been agreed upon beforehand and all the players knew their parts. But the SCOTUS let it slide through which is an outrage to me. Maybe if they ruled against Marshall they were afraid of being called r****ts. Anyway, it was done and millions have died. I just hope and pray it gets overturned someday soon.

If you recall the story of Baalam who was hired to curse Israel in Numbers 22. He couldn't do that, but he wanted the money, so he came up with the plan to allow the women of Moab to entice the men of Israel into sin and that would cause God to curse Israel. I think that is the same thing a******n was meant to do to America. In the book of Jasher 69-79, Baalam was the father of Jannes and Jambres who contended with Moses in the court of Pharaoh.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

I think that is what a******n is all about. A scheme to cause God to curse America. It seems to be working.
Not according to what I read years ago. Correct me... (show quote)


The chapter and verse given would be a good rule to follow if this country was a theocracy , the country was formed by religious people yes but the fact that they put the phrase freedom of religion sort of set this country on the road we are on. Below is the ten chapters which can be used to argue with the word;
As property
Exodus 21:22-25).
Purity test for adultery
Numbers 5:11-31
For disobedience
Deuteronomy 28:18,53).
Elisha's prophecy
(2 Kings 8:12).
destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah)
2 Kings 15:16).
Babylon
(Isaiah 13:18)
Idol worship
Jeremiah 44:7-8).
punish the Israelites
(Hosea 9:10-16).
rebelling against God,
(Hosea 13:16).
anticipated end times:
Matthew 24:19).
The rest I will have to look into and see where it fits.
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Oct 1, 2019 22:59:34   #
jwrevagent wrote:
Is not the first right listed in the Preamble to the Constitution the right to LIFE? You need life to exercise any other right, correct? Free speech does the dead no benefit, nor does freedom of religion or assembly or v**e or anything else. As to a definition of life-viability should not be a consideration. If viability were the standard, then I could legally k**l any toddler or baby, or even a pre teen-they cannot survive fully on their own without breaking a number of laws. Right to life is paramount!
Is not the first right listed in the Preamble to t... (show quote)


The toddler, the baby or preteen statement. I don't understand your reasoning because their viability has already been proven because they have passed through the birth channel. They are in existance and are already considered to have rights. Roe v Wade is the law that concerns the possible being before passing through the birth channel. The question is when does the egg become a person? At which time does the the right to life apply? Even when the baby has had a hard trip though the channel and may have to be helped with additional equipment they are considered alive possibly can at some point survive on their own.
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Oct 1, 2019 08:26:48   #
Peewee wrote:
Roe v Wade is bad law. SCOTUS has one job, to ensure all laws comply with the Constitution. The SCOTUS created law with same-sex marriage and Roe v Wade. Both should be abolished, they opened a can of worms and division among the public which can never be healed unless one ceases to exist. Without those two laws, millions of people would still be alive, children wouldn't be undergoing one-way s*x c****es, t******s wouldn't be reading to innocent children, and sports would still be women competing with women and men against men. It was just perversion on a massive scale.
Roe v Wade is bad law. SCOTUS has one job, to ensu... (show quote)


https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/410/113/

Right or wrong the SCOTUS did interpete Roe v Wade according to the Constitution ;

Primary Holding

A person may choose to have an a******n until a fetus becomes viable, based on the right to privacy contained in the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Viability means the ability to live outside the womb, which usually happens between 24 and 28 weeks after conception.

Below is summary of why it was brought up;

Facts

The law in Texas permitted a******n only in cases involving rape or incest. When Dallas resident Norma McCorvey found out that she was pregnant with her third child, she tried to falsely claim that she had been raped and then to obtain an illegal a******n. Both of these efforts failed, and she sought the assistance of Linda Coffee and Sarah Weddington, who filed a claim using the alias Jane Roe for McCorvey. (The other named party, Henry Wade, was the District Attorney for Dallas County.)

McCorvey gave birth to her child before the case was decided, but the district court ruled in her favor based on a concurrence in the 1965 Supreme Court decision of Griswold v. Connecticut, written by Justice Arthur Goldberg. This concurrence had found that there was a right to privacy based on the Ninth Amendment of the Constitution. However, the district court refrained from issuing an injunction to prevent the state from enforcing the law, leaving the matter unresolved.

Now as with defining/interpetation the Constitution they both can change in accordance to the members of the government. I still maintain that the law doesn't make it right. As per procedure the SCOTUS decision is law and can only be removed/changed via a new interpretation or an admendment to the present laws. Which has been attempted, in some cases the rights of the mother or persons involved have been changed or removed.
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Sep 30, 2019 22:23:41   #
Peewee wrote:
Enforcing the laws on the books would help.


Roe vs Wade is on the books. Until it is removed people are going to try and change it. Still the law itself doesn't make it right. Unfortunately if there is nothing controlling it will be done the cheapest and quickest way , which isn't good for anyone. One misguided attempt at stopping Roe v Wade was stopping all infomation about the services available , one problem is you can't expect a person in trouble to know all the avenues available. If the information is not available in an acceptable and knowledgeable manner the kids will have to go to an unapproved source which will do more damage. It has to be realized that the human is socially inclined and is going to experiment. Knowledge will make that experimental moment good or bad. You are right people need to feel shame but it should not cause more hurt.To often while I was in high school a girl would disappear at which time the rumours would start that she was pregnant and the parents were upset because it hurt their standing in the community.That is the wrong result of shame.
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Sep 30, 2019 08:11:36   #
jwrevagent wrote:
As a Christian, I mostly agree with Pence, but I do not think we can legislate morality, and with the hypocrisy in DC as far as lifestyles and their constant preaching about how I should live and what I should think, while they do exactly the opposite begs for just that. But Roe v Wade I think was an example of overreach by the judiciary-in effect legislating from the bench. Their job is to determine Constitutionality of laws and actions of states and federal governments, not make laws for the whole country. I believe Roe v Wade was a question of the right of a woman to murder her baby-never a good thing to say OK to.
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Yes you can't legislate morality ,even so the normal reaction of a family whose child was pregnant was being ashamed. That moment in time religious belief was very strong and it was not done , sex was after marriage period. Roe v Wade used the definition of life that was approved by the church. The additional attempts at further controlling the law were also included in the language like the clinic has to have connection with a hospital, informed decsions with everything available for the mother including adoptions, the notification of parents if the mother was underage. I do not agree with a******n as a method of birth control. The law ensured safe procedures for all.
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Sep 28, 2019 18:23:36   #
byronglimish wrote:
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Israel is only encroaching to make it safer.

There are many middle eastern people who want to destroy Israel, not co-exist.

Many of the people's have a great desire in their hearts to completely eliminate Israel from the earth.

The U.N. makes decisions while not taking this fact into account.

The most coveted place in the world is Jerusalem.


The boundaries are lost to time. By encroaching on the boundaries wouldn't you be upset because the land you think is yours is being taken? I know there are a lot of groups have a intense dislike for Israel, could it be possible that the dislike is being caused by the way Israel has acted? Beside the fact the people's beliefs aren't to popular in the region. If I remember my history correctly I think it was before WW1 the people were prefectly happy to coexist. Who is to say that since the region believes in revenge k*****gs that in the distant past that someone didn't offend. Revenge dues have long memories alot like the Hatfields and Mcoys. U.N. decisions I'm not party to the discussion all I have on that note is what I've heard.
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Sep 28, 2019 16:39:35   #
byronglimish wrote:
So you believe the U.N. is a fair and balanced organization when it deals with Israel?


Fair is a personal definition of the person. Whether the treatment of Israel is fair or not is to be considered by the one making the comparison. Like I mentioned earlier I don't think we should be involved because of that belief I haven't followed the details. What I have learned is in passing , Israel has requested permission to have a sort of DMZ between the boundaries. Then they build in that zone then request an added zone. The last report dated 6/19/18 made by Special Coordinator Nickolay Mladenov stated Israel has the duty to the protect citizens but must use live fire with restaint. Which goes against logic if someone is firing at you, you should be able to protect yourself. The one problem is which group is actually doing the aggressive actions. Under cover of the protest the groups Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and other militants engaged in violent and provocative acts. Are they actually in support of the Palestinian people or just causing problems?
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Sep 28, 2019 14:13:50   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/the_800pound_gorilla_in_the_impeachment_room.html


The read is good and it does point different points but this paragraph got my
attention.

But the 800-pound gorilla in the room no one has yet to point out is that Mike Pence would ascend to the presidency upon Trump's removal. A Pence presidency would not look that much different than Trump's in substance although it clearly would in style. The impeachment and removal of President Trump would clearly outrage and disgust the public so thoroughly that it would practically guarantee a two-term President Pence.

The results is based on Trump's removal the impreachment will not remove Trump but the senate's v**e can remove. So if Trump is as popular as claimed
which group would be targeted? Yes it would give Pence the office and guaranted him two terms. But what would congress look like?
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Sep 28, 2019 13:54:03   #
Crayons wrote:
No, If the marxist l*****ts impeach him we will simply put DJT on the b****t and re-elect him=all legal
Now watch the l*****t's try to refute what I just wrote


You do realize that the impreachment are only articles that are v**ed on by the house and presented to the Senate which in turn will decide whether he is guilty which takes 2/3 v**e but removal isn't the only answer the senate can render. It could be possible for him to stay in office until the end of his present term. As for running for another office or term he will not be allowed.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:31:29   #
byronglimish wrote:
I've read a few people saying the same thing of Obama.

"That he wasn't perfect" but the ones who will say that, don't have anything specific to add.

What specifically are the bad points of Shiff and Nadler?


It more of dislike for some of the decsions made ;

The bad point about Schiff is the support of Israel me personally I don't think we should be involved other then being member of the UN .When he urged Obama to veto the United Nations Security Council Resolution 2334, it sounds like Schiff was following his own agenda. it allows for a possible end to the Civil war between Israel and Palestine Even through it did pass with a 14-0 with United States abstaining.

With Nadler one thing I can think of is when George W was going thru inpreachment the Articles were produced he didn't push them forward. The reasoning I agree with it was to close to the e******n and it would distract.
I don't know why the change presently unless the impreachment on Trump has changed his outlook. The only thing I can figure is ether the feud or Nadler thinks that this particular case is worst then George W.
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Sep 27, 2019 00:51:57   #
byronglimish wrote:
Are you proud of Schiff and Nadler.


My p***e is mostly for my family, these 2 have their good and bad points they are both doing the job they were elected for, in the best way they can. Unlike some who have be elected.
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Sep 26, 2019 02:49:35   #
proud republican wrote:
And we all know with Republicans controlled Senate, it will go NOWHERE!!!!..Trump lives another 4 years!!!
And we all know with Republicans controlled Senate... (show quote)


Yes your right he may make four years but the damage was done with the impreachment articles. Those who get upset enough to realize that Trump may not have been the best bet may change their v**es. The Impeachment of Clinton the reps lost seats ,the same may happen to the dems.
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Sep 26, 2019 02:37:49   #
byronglimish wrote:
Yeah, thanks for the sermonette. Bottom line is the rabid left has been chasing its own tail.


Chasing tails or not following a guide line as with the Constitution is the only way a government regardless of type can operate.
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Sep 25, 2019 22:51:26   #
byronglimish wrote:
You people have been playing this..."if"
"maybe" "possibly" "looks like" you've used words like "treason" "collusion".

My point is, you people don't get to railroad your way into destroying the President.

It is the same tactic here....treason keeper Peter Strzok tried tell you people "there's no there, there!

And there won't be on this charade of f**e emotions.

The timing of the release was accomplished after the water was chummed with the bait.

Biden is actually the one with problems.
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Have never even considered using the words treason or collusion unless brought up , the if is the only answer to give when there is a lot of infomation that has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. There is infomation that has been brought up that has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt for some while others still need to be convinced, then there are those who have kept their beliefs to themselves waiting for more infomation. Timing is a method that both sides of a disagreement have used. That maybe so on
Biden , this has always been the time for skeletons to come out , always have and always will. You people is to much of a blanket statement it is used by both to tag everyone who may not have a view that follows yours. That belief stops commucation between the two groups. Yes you will have someone so intrenched in their beliefs that their not worth talking to , but others who you may be able to have the conversation with. Railroading is only when the information is not beyond reasonable doubt that is why the house has to debate the articles if enough of the representatives think that the info is backed up by what is presented then the Articles go forward.
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