Talk to any devout right winger, and the Obama economy was a disaster, Obama virtually destroyed the economy. Now unfortunately any discussion with anyone that is such a moron they would say that Obama destroyed the economy has to be very carefully navigated...or it becomes a fight when you try to be honest about such stupidity

Okay, but play with reality and hold r****ded people accountable and the questions would look like this...
...what are you comparing this terrible performance with, the Bush economy? Because that makes Obama look like a true god of finance and policy.
...Bush lost 25 million jobs, Obama only put 14 million back on?
...Unemployment was at 11% under Bush, Obama only reduced it to 5% during his eight years/
...The housing market prices were back and they were selling faster than people were listing them
...The stock market had been consistently breaking new records and continued that trend under trump, but to hear trumpers talk they had made all this money during a trump economy

...Bush was losing 800,000 jobs a month when Obama took over
...25% of the homes in the country were being foreclosed on
...the stock market was in the crapper, Americans Lost upwards of $25 Trillion dollars
...
...
...you get the idea, there are more indicators that support a strong economy

To talk to a right winger that believes Obama destroyed the economy they literally have to be experiencing a form of their brain being dead during that whole period, it's gone and the economy didn't "come back" from the way Obama had destroyed it until trump took office, whereupon he performed one of the most miraculous turnarounds in the history of the country. Ask one what about the way Bush devastated the economy and that gets shut down with one of the forms of "here we go, blaming it on Bush"...yes, Bush trashed the economy

You can say Hitler was a right wing person until the sun comes up, but his actions and general philosophy were very liberal.

L*****ts, love to win arguments through emotional statements and attacks. They label things in d******e ways that leave their victims speechless. Assessing, Hitler’s belief in an all powerful strong arm government seems to lean more toward the left to me. He had no respect for the individual, supported a******n and other horrific medical experiments, confiscated guns and personal property, c***ted at the polls, produced propaganda and slander toward the opposition, believed no tragedy should go unused, turned the education system into indoctrination centers, controlled the media, nationalized industry, attacked religion and built a system of corruption. He believed all rights came from the state, not from God. If those aren't l*****t attributes, most of which are still in place today, then I don't know what is.

Mass Formation in Action
Another important point is that, typically, only 30% of people in a totalitarian society are actually under the hypnotic spell of mass formation. It seems greater, but they’re actually in a minority.

However, there’s typically another 40% that simply go along with the program, even though they’re unconvinced. They don’t want to stick out by going against the prevailing current. The remaining 30% are not hypnotized and want to wake the others up.

A key strategy to break mass formation and prevent totalitarianism is for dissenters to join together as one large group, thereby giving fence-sitters who are not yet fully hypnotized an alternative to going along with the totalitarians.
The so-called Ash experiments clearly demonstrated that very few people, only 25%, are willing to go against the crowd, no matter how absurd and obviously wrong the crowd’s opinion is. Two-thirds of people are willing to go along with “idiocracy.”

Time and again, mass formation events and experiments show us there are three groups of people: those who become spellbound and actually believe that the wrong answer is the right one; those who know the answer is wrong, but dare not tell the t***h so they agree with what they know to be false; and those who know the answer is wrong and say so.

How to Break Mass Formation
All of this points to what the answer is. According to Desmet, what dissidents need to do is join together to form one large group. This gives the largest, 40% group — the fence-sitters who only go along with the program because they’re afraid of being ostracized — an alternative social bonding platform.

Most of them are likely to join the dissident anti-totalitarian group rather than follow the totalitarian mindset that they don’t fully agree with. At that point, the mass formation is done. The totalitarian state is finished because the neutral fence-sitters, which allowed for mass formation to take root and grow, are now no longer participating in that process. And without mass formation, a totalitarian takeover cannot succeed.

Secondly, we must continue to speak out — LOUDLY. Speaking out can help minimize the number of people who get hypnotized. It can also wake some up who already are under the mass formation spell. According to Desmet, speaking out has also been shown to limit the atrocities committed.

“In my opinion, it is not an option to stop speaking,” he says. “It’s the most important thing we can do.”

It’s not easy. As discussed by Marcus and Desmet, the totalitarian regime has the benefit of being able to control the narrative through a centralized media. Not surprisingly, mass media is a key tool for the successful creation of mass formation.

A third action item is creating parallel structures. The power of this strategy was demonstrated by Vaclav Havel, a political dissident who eventually became the president of Czechoslovakia. A parallel structure is any kind of business, organization, technology, movement or creative pursuit that fits within a totalitarian society while being morally outside of it.

Once enough parallel structures are created, a parallel culture is born that functions as a sanctuary of sanity within the totalitarian world. Havel explains this strategy in his book, “The Power of the Powerless.” As noted by Desmet, totalitarianism will always self-destruct in the end. The psychological underpinnings are so self-destructive that the system falls apart. That’s the good news.

The bad news is a totalitarian system can survive for long periods of time before petering out, and there tend to be few survivors at the end. That said, Desmet believes this new global totalitarianism is more unstable than regional dictator-led totalitarian systems, so it may self-destruct faster. So, the key is to survive outside the totalitarian system while we wait for it to self-destruct.

However, we must still dissent in word and deed, in order to limit the atrocities and mitigate the damage.

Ultimately, as in medicine, preventing totalitarianism is far easier than trying to break free later. To do that, we need to prevent the four root causes of mass formation in society: social isolation, purposelessness, free-floating discontent/anxiety and free-floating frustration/aggression. This will be the task of those who remain once this global totalitarianism experiment fails and falls.

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Donald Trump was not a "regular" politician. He never developed the mealy mouthed/talk out of both sides of your mouth/smooth talking attitude. The Democrat/C*******ts, (who are actively trying to "fundamentally t***sform" America into a socialist/c*******t country,) have spent the last 5-6 years disparaging/smearing Donald Trump AND his supporters. Mean tweets?! So what. Considering the horrible things President Trump (and his supporters,) were called, and the ceaseless/unrelenting attacks on every facet of his administration, (simply because the Democrat/C*******ts had a willing/eager/beyond biased press to pump out false information and lies about President Trump,) it's hardly surprising that Trump had something not too tactful to say about it. The Democrat/C*******ts are just faking outrage because someone had the nerve to call them out on these underhanded tactics. So they and their propaganda press made sure there was a constant stream of negative coverage...96%. What is more sickening/astounding are these Republicans who think turning back a blatant attempt to socialize/communize this country is going to be accomplished by sweet talk and a smile. Good grief! When you are fighting in-your-face corruption/abuse of power/undermining of our Constitution...you had better have someone who is willing to be brutally honest about what is happening.