Blade_Runner wrote:
You don't seem to understand the power of religious beliefs.
Your dismissal of the Bible as merely a dictionary is naive at best, ignorant at worst.
It is critical to understand that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (in that order) are the only monotheistic religions on earth and that Yahweh (Biblical) made a Covenant with Abraham, the patriarch of all three.
Moreover, collectively, the three Abrahamic religions have a much greater influence on human affairs than all other polytheist and pagan religions combined.
Hamas, and all other Islamic terrorist groups, are on a mission from Allah,
it is their religion that built them and drives them.
As the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Imam Hassan al-Banna wrote, In The Name Of The Most Merciful Allah in the preamble of the The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement.
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it,
just as it obliterated others before it"
(The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
Yahweh is the Biblical God, the Israelites (Hebrews, Jews) believe in him, have faith in Him, worship Him, pray to Him, sing praises to Him, thank Him. Therefore, when Yahweh speaks, they listen.
The land is in the Torah - Numbers - The scrolls of Torah are read in synagogue, the Torah is the source of prayers and supplications during Shabbat, at the Wailing Wall, and all the feasts.
Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Command the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘When you enter the land of Canaan, this is the land that shall fall to you as an inheritance, even the land of Canaan according to its borders. Your southern sector shall extend from the wilderness of Zin along the side of Edom, and your southern border shall extend from the end of the [Dead Sea] eastward. Then your border shall turn direction from the south to the ascent of Akrabbim and continue to Zin, and its termination shall be to the south of Kadesh-barnea; and it shall reach Hazaraddar and continue to Azmon. The border shall turn direction from Azmon to the brook of Egypt, and its termination shall be at the sea. As for the western border, you shall have the [Mediterranean Sea], that is, its coastline; this shall be your west border. And this shall be your north border: you shall draw your border line from the Great Sea to Mount Hor. You shall draw a line from Mount Hor to the Lebo-hamath, and the termination of the border shall be at Zedad; and the border shall proceed to Ziphron, and its termination shall be at Hazar-enan. This shall be your north border. For your eastern border you shall also draw a line from Hazar-enan to Shepham, and the border shall go down from Shepham to Riblah on the east side of Ain; and the border shall go down and reach to the slope on the east side of the Sea of Chinnereth. And the border shall go down to the Jordan and its termination shall be at the Salt Sea. This shall be your land according to its borders all around.'” So Moses commanded the sons of Israel, saying, “This is the land that you are to apportion by lot among you as a possession, which the LORD has commanded to give to the nine and a half tribes.” Numbers 34:1-13
IOW, in the mind and heart and spirit of Jews, Christians, and Muslims, Yes, this is a religious war.
Which renders your entire scenario irrelevant.
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Whoa Blade, great post, however, I don't dismisß the bible, if I did I wouldn't have started the thread years ago in '14, the thread called, Praying for America through a psalm of David. Therefore, you have preached to the choir...lol
Now, establishing whose land it is, is truly a hard one. Yes it is true, the map posted above belongs to the Israelites, but Israelis may or may not be Israelites you know what I mean?
As far as the Jews, (a Latin name for Judah) Jerusalem belongs to them, as the north belongs to the Samaritans. After the death of Solomon, ancient Israel went through a great civil war. The result was two kingdoms, Samaria to the north, and Judah in the south. That is where we get the Jews and Samaritans.
That being said, through Jesus Christ the two were reunited as Israelites through Christianity. In the Bible, we find that this occured. Notice how there was no such thing as Palestinians until after the fall of the ottoman empire.
The reason why I separated the bible and current events is to show humanity before bringing philosophy.
With or without religion, with or without the bible, the acts of Hamas must come to justice.
Incidentally, how many children of Germany died because of Hitler's N**i party, in their sins against the Jews?
During world war II, no one said, "oh the poor German people, tell Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, to cease fire...the poor Germans", no the allies marched to Berlin and took out the N**is.
Today the demon of Hitler and his N**is have possessed Hamas and Hezbollah. This is where you blade are correct, the enemies of Hitler, the N**is, Hamas and Hezbollah is the God of Israel! Now that is biblical!
Another thing that is biblical is the ancient haunting of that land. Being a Jew is a blessing and a curse, the same holds true for Christians as well.
In 70 AD Christ's prophecy about that current generation came true. But God's people, left Palestine before that both Christians and Jews and moved north. Into Greece, then Macedonian, and into Russia, the Baltic states, Poland and eastern Europe.
And it was there that Hitler, and his N**is exterminated them, in the Holocaust. But God would rescue them and the allies defeated the N**is. But these victims, were displaced, so the allies brought them back home to modern Israel.
Since 1948, the Israelis had to fight for their existence, nothing has changed. Palestine welcomes the Jews, but dispises the Z*****t movement. It was the Z*****t not the Jews that abused Palestinians. And it is that abuse the Palestinians complain about.
But none of this grants Hamas a justification to do to the Jews what Hitler and the N**is have done. It is that action that needs to be solved. Since Hamas is now guilty of Hitler's crime, now they must have Hitler's fate.
Does that make sense? You with me?