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Oct 28, 2023 23:15:49   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Thank you, it was stated among the many paragraphs under Foreign Affairs. But that was one of his best accomplishments. Iran wanted to tear it down.


Yeah, and now Iran will find out what Israel will do to Hamas, a brutal Iranian ally.
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Oct 28, 2023 23:14:06   #
Ri-chard wrote:
Permissions by the Jews god.
Murder, Rape & Pillage at Jabesh -gilead
(Judges 21:10 - 24 NLT)
Murder, Rape & Pillage of the Midiantes
(Numbers 31: 7 - 18 NTL)
More Rape & Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10- 14)
The Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28 - 29 NAB) Q What kind of lunatic would make a Rape victim marry her attacker. Ans; the Jews god.
Sex S***es (Exodus 21:7 - 11 NTL)
God assists Rape and plunder (Zechariah 14:1 - 2 NAB)
The following passages shows the s***es are to be bought and sold like livestock. (Leviticus 25:44 - 46 NLT)
Next passages describe how Hebrew s***es are to be treated. (Exodus 21:2 - 6 NTL) Q, Did you notice how they got a male Hebrew s***e to become a permanent s***e by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent s***e. What kind of family values are they?
Permissions by the Jews god. br Murder, Rape &... (show quote)


Did you not read how that changed...
Seems toe you need to keep reading...
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Oct 28, 2023 22:53:00   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Your party AF1, the Marxist democrat terrorists under Biden and Barack, caused all these violence and wars going on. Fact is I am afraid this dumb Biden might bring us to WWIII.
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Why Trump Was a Great President
Here are the reasons why I defend and appreciate Donald Trump as president. I think he was the best president equally to president Reagan, or even better.

Had Trump, been the president since 2021, there will be no war all over the world. We are at peace with all countries.
Trump is a very strong president. But he knows how to bring peace to all nations of the world. How? Pease through strength.


Foreign Affairs
With Trump as president since 2021 these wars did not happen.
1. No Russia -Ukraine war.
2. The Afghan exit could had been successful, and peace maintained in Afghanistan.
3. This Israel and Hamas war did not happen.
4. This Iran, and Israel war did not happen.
5. This US and Iran war did not happen.

The disastrous stupid C*****e C****e of Biden and John Kerry was under control.

Trump was able to maintain peaceful relations with Russia and China.
Trump had great relation with North Korea's leader.
Trump was able to bring home remains of our war veterans left in NK since the Korean war.

Trump was a very strong president, and I admire him. He is patriotic and loves this country. Yet, stupid and dumb Biden wanted to lock him up for 700 years.

When Trump was president, Iran and ISIS were all under control. He got rid of ISIS Baghdadi, and Iran's terror leader Soleimani. Iran was weakened.

There was peace and prosperity among the Arab countries and Israel. The Abraham Accord was a brilliant piece of negotiations for all Arab nations and Israel, in the ME. To develop and grow its economic and political relations in the Middle East.

Trump had moved Capital of Israel to Jerusalem. No US president had done before.

Palestine and Hamas were under control. No attacks on Israel.

Why were all these possible under Trump? Because Trump made America the strongest country in the world. And he knows how to bring peace to all nations.

Trump had made NATO obey and complied its commitment to their obligated funding.

Europe listened to Trump. They respected him.
Economic trade relation between US and China was under control.

Notional Economy, and Expanded Capitalism.
Balanced trade with China. Import and exports. US was able to save almost $500 billion.
Replaced the NAFTA with USMCA, trade which allowed more manufacturing jobs returned to the US. Provided more employment locally.
Lowered Taxes.
This invited US manufacturing companies returned home.
Corporation grew further and hired more employees.
Corporation profits grow and therefore paid more taxes.
Allowed energy independence thru local explorations with highest scientific reductions and cleanest energy produced.
Became energy independent and had planned to supply Europe.
US became stable and strong to protect against other countries.
Allowed the Canada oil pipeline which provided high paying jobs locally.
China's encroachment to the US businesses and land under control.

Inflation was under control to 1.4%
Real unemployment was at 3.5%.
National Debts was under control.
GDP under Trump was $ 33.1 trillion versus the national Debts at $22.72 trillion. That means Trump's economy is earning 46% more than it expended.

His salary was given to charity or returned to the US Treasury.
Trump was the only most charitable president. Several years before becoming president he had millions of dollars donated to various causes.

Trump hired 2 SC Justices.

Trump did not discriminate anybody.
He hired black officers in his department cabinet.
1. Dr Ben Carlson.
2. Head of Dept. of Health.
3. Trump hired Amorosa, but she became t*****r and instead, secretly wrote books of lies about the WH.
4. Trump pardoned all the low-class convicts, gave them job training and eventually given permanent jobs. Most of them were b****s.

For a brief 4 years of Trump's presidency, he was able to achieve too much worldwide. Despite of the massive relentless charges of Hillary Clinton which were all fabricated. Through f**e Dossier and FISA warrant. The 22 months of investigations on him cost taxpayers $32 million. All democrat lawyer jurists could not prove Trump's guilt brought by fabricated charges of Hillary Clinton.
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You forgot Trump's greatest accomplishment.....peace between Israel and their Arab neighbors through the Abrahamic accords.
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Oct 28, 2023 22:45:32   #
Hydro wrote:
I agree religion isn’t the answer but believing in God is - not the same thing - without believing in Christ - his birth and sacrifice on the cross - repenting of sins and following the guidelines set up by God - you won’t make heaaven - no one is forced to adhere to this or believe it but it is still true - everyone has a choice - what they do with it will decide their eternal path


I agree however you cannot use that to the non believer. The non believer will then rebel against you
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Oct 28, 2023 22:38:06   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
You don't seem to understand the power of religious beliefs.
Your dismissal of the Bible as merely a dictionary is naive at best, ignorant at worst.

It is critical to understand that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (in that order) are the only monotheistic religions on earth and that Yahweh (Biblical) made a Covenant with Abraham, the patriarch of all three.
Moreover, collectively, the three Abrahamic religions have a much greater influence on human affairs than all other polytheist and pagan religions combined.

Hamas, and all other Islamic terrorist groups, are on a mission from Allah,
it is their religion that built them and drives them.

As the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Imam Hassan al-Banna wrote, In The Name Of The Most Merciful Allah in the preamble of the The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it,
just as it obliterated others before it"

(The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).


Yahweh is the Biblical God, the Israelites (Hebrews, Jews) believe in him, have faith in Him, worship Him, pray to Him, sing praises to Him, thank Him. Therefore, when Yahweh speaks, they listen.

The land is in the Torah - Numbers - The scrolls of Torah are read in synagogue, the Torah is the source of prayers and supplications during Shabbat, at the Wailing Wall, and all the feasts.

Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Command the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘When you enter the land of Canaan, this is the land that shall fall to you as an inheritance, even the land of Canaan according to its borders. Your southern sector shall extend from the wilderness of Zin along the side of Edom, and your southern border shall extend from the end of the [Dead Sea] eastward. Then your border shall turn direction from the south to the ascent of Akrabbim and continue to Zin, and its termination shall be to the south of Kadesh-barnea; and it shall reach Hazaraddar and continue to Azmon. The border shall turn direction from Azmon to the brook of Egypt, and its termination shall be at the sea. As for the western border, you shall have the [Mediterranean Sea], that is, its coastline; this shall be your west border. And this shall be your north border: you shall draw your border line from the Great Sea to Mount Hor. You shall draw a line from Mount Hor to the Lebo-hamath, and the termination of the border shall be at Zedad; and the border shall proceed to Ziphron, and its termination shall be at Hazar-enan. This shall be your north border. For your eastern border you shall also draw a line from Hazar-enan to Shepham, and the border shall go down from Shepham to Riblah on the east side of Ain; and the border shall go down and reach to the slope on the east side of the Sea of Chinnereth. And the border shall go down to the Jordan and its termination shall be at the Salt Sea. This shall be your land according to its borders all around.'” So Moses commanded the sons of Israel, saying, “This is the land that you are to apportion by lot among you as a possession, which the LORD has commanded to give to the nine and a half tribes.” Numbers 34:1-13

IOW, in the mind and heart and spirit of Jews, Christians, and Muslims, Yes, this is a religious war.
Which renders your entire scenario irrelevant.
You don't seem to understand the power of religiou... (show quote)


Whoa Blade, great post, however, I don't dismisß the bible, if I did I wouldn't have started the thread years ago in '14, the thread called, Praying for America through a psalm of David. Therefore, you have preached to the choir...lol

Now, establishing whose land it is, is truly a hard one. Yes it is true, the map posted above belongs to the Israelites, but Israelis may or may not be Israelites you know what I mean?

As far as the Jews, (a Latin name for Judah) Jerusalem belongs to them, as the north belongs to the Samaritans. After the death of Solomon, ancient Israel went through a great civil war. The result was two kingdoms, Samaria to the north, and Judah in the south. That is where we get the Jews and Samaritans.

That being said, through Jesus Christ the two were reunited as Israelites through Christianity. In the Bible, we find that this occured. Notice how there was no such thing as Palestinians until after the fall of the ottoman empire.

The reason why I separated the bible and current events is to show humanity before bringing philosophy.

With or without religion, with or without the bible, the acts of Hamas must come to justice.

Incidentally, how many children of Germany died because of Hitler's N**i party, in their sins against the Jews?

During world war II, no one said, "oh the poor German people, tell Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, to cease fire...the poor Germans", no the allies marched to Berlin and took out the N**is.

Today the demon of Hitler and his N**is have possessed Hamas and Hezbollah. This is where you blade are correct, the enemies of Hitler, the N**is, Hamas and Hezbollah is the God of Israel! Now that is biblical!

Another thing that is biblical is the ancient haunting of that land. Being a Jew is a blessing and a curse, the same holds true for Christians as well.

In 70 AD Christ's prophecy about that current generation came true. But God's people, left Palestine before that both Christians and Jews and moved north. Into Greece, then Macedonian, and into Russia, the Baltic states, Poland and eastern Europe.

And it was there that Hitler, and his N**is exterminated them, in the Holocaust. But God would rescue them and the allies defeated the N**is. But these victims, were displaced, so the allies brought them back home to modern Israel.

Since 1948, the Israelis had to fight for their existence, nothing has changed. Palestine welcomes the Jews, but dispises the Z*****t movement. It was the Z*****t not the Jews that abused Palestinians. And it is that abuse the Palestinians complain about.

But none of this grants Hamas a justification to do to the Jews what Hitler and the N**is have done. It is that action that needs to be solved. Since Hamas is now guilty of Hitler's crime, now they must have Hitler's fate.

Does that make sense? You with me?
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Oct 28, 2023 19:04:29   #
RascalRiley wrote:
Family values in red states vs blue states. Religion is not a solution. Taking care of everyone is.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25032268/


Principles found in the Bible, formulate a wise structure to develop family values. It is not a one solution solves all. But the tools hidden in religion do develop the necessary need to establish family values and keep families together. Religion helps but is not the end all be all, and religion forced upon the people is rejected.

Likewise, religion that is rejected by authority is embraced by families. It works both ways
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Oct 28, 2023 18:57:38   #
Welcome back
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Oct 28, 2023 18:53:45   #
Airforceone wrote:
I just want to simplify and help the Trumpers understand how they think there Making America great.
Just want you to maybe see it in a picture.


Thank you for raising Trump to the level of Kennedy, that's all Don needs. He has a big ego anyways.
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Oct 28, 2023 18:50:36   #
Hydro wrote:
You have stated both issues correctly - my point being tit for tat is a useless conversation - if one uses actual data it has some credence than many individuals making things up - example if you look at the products used to define inflation under previous administrations they are T apples for apples with the current administration - to me list the items used and apply the current increases or decreases to adjust the inflation factor - just look at grocery prices on 5 major items milk, meat, bread, fresh vegetables and eggs - the actual increase exceeds 20% - gas is double - that is 50% - this is real mortgages at 8.6 % as opposed to 2% these are real numbers that everyone can adhere to personally
You have stated both issues correctly - my point b... (show quote)


That can be easily proven by looking at past bank statements applied to present ones. That's easily proven therefore evidence.
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Oct 28, 2023 18:42:14   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
You did not say it was not true.


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Oct 28, 2023 18:37:28   #
Hydro wrote:
The Jewish people are the Lords chose and upon Christs return he will rule from Jerusalem


That my friend is religious, and can't be used to promote or deny, the atrocities of Hamas.

Fact: Israel's children were grossly and brutally murdered.

Fact: Israel has the right to strike back.

Fact: this is not a Palestinian Israel war but a war on humanity.

Therefore, if the biblical prophecy comes true, it will be that of God's hand and not Israel or Hamas hand.

So we must focus on the subject at hand...the oct 7th massacre.
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Oct 28, 2023 18:32:37   #
Big Kahuna wrote:
Exactly


Looks like the German/Italy f**g under Hitler and Mussolini.....
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Oct 28, 2023 18:28:23   #
TexaCan wrote:
Amen and Amen, Padre!

Where is the empathy and compassion for all those precious lives that were murdered out of convenience! In the world that we have progressed into, many young women have grown up being taught that there is nothing wrong with using a******ns for a quick fix for careless sex and an unwanted baby………their own flesh and blood BABY.

Sadly, many women later spend years of guilt and grief over the life that they had aborted. God is a forgiving loving Father if we truly repent of our sins and accept Jesus Christ as our Savior. However, forgiving themselves and wondering about the life that could have been can be long and painful

The l*****t philosophy is destroying our beloved country! IMHO!
Amen and Amen, Padre! br br Where is the empathy ... (show quote)


You know, I can agree with a liberal, as a conservative to a point. However, it seems to be impossible to come to an understanding with a progressive liberal or a progressive conservative.

An example of this is c*******t Russian under Stalin and N**i Germany under Hitler. Most people don't understand that the N**i party of Germany was a progressive conservative group, where as the C*******t party of Stalin was a progressive liberal group. An interesting point of history is that both groups in their own way followed the philosophy of Carol Marx.....

That was an interesting read....
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Oct 28, 2023 17:58:06   #
Big dog wrote:
Therein lies the problem.


I say, if the evidence can be verified by both extremists then it's evidence. But that's my rule.

It gets harder when you apply weight to that evidence.
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Oct 28, 2023 17:55:26   #
Big dog wrote:
Solid advice!!!


Next thing you all need to agree on is the rules for evidence.

Before a healthy debate takes place this rule needs to be established and understood.
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