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Jul 29, 2020 00:54:07   #
dtucker300 wrote:
Portland Goes Over The Brink
by Richard A. Epstein
Monday, July 27, 2020
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The continuing unrest in Portland, Oregon, which has now lasted some 55 nights, exemplifies the breakdown of law and order that has become a daily occurrence in many cities with progressive mayors. Portland police are nowhere to be found at the sight of the protests outside the Mark O. Hatfield Courthouse, a federal building. On June 26, President Trump issued an Executive Order sending federal troops to protect the courthouse—and so far, they have made at least 43 arrests. The President minced no words when he attacked the protesters as “anarchists and left-wing extremists” spurred on by “agitators who have traveled across State lines” to wreak havoc.

Both his words and his use of federal troops have provoked a fierce reaction. Writing in The Atlantic, Ronald Brownstein accused the President of driving an ugly wedge between Red and Blue America to boost his ree******n chances this coming November. Similarly, The Atlantic’s Quinta Jurecic and Benjamin Wittes insist that it violates the rule of law for plainclothes federal agents to arrest local protestors and cart them away in unmarked vehicles. Meanwhile, Joe Biden accused the Trump administration of “brutally attacking peaceful protesters.” And Nancy Pelosi has likened the federal agents to “stormtroopers.”

This chorus of criticism rests on the assumption that all governmental processes should be t***sparent and above board, and that any federal presence in local communities only will further inflame a tense situation.

These events have led to an extraordinary letter to the Trump administration, signed only by Democrat mayors, including the mayors of Portland (Ted Wheeler), Seattle (Jenny Durkan), Atlanta (Keisha Lance Bottoms), Washington D.C (Muriel Bowser), Chicago (Lori Lightfoot), and others. Their message is unambiguous: “We urge you to take immediate action to withdraw your forces and agree to no further unilateral deployments in our cities.” The letter insists that federal forces should not conduct law enforcement activities “without coordination or authorization of local law enforcement officials.”

The letter is significant for several reasons: It omits key factual details; it takes a truculent and confrontational tone; and it jumps to a hasty legal conclusion in claiming that the unilateral deployment of federal troops “is unprecedented and violates fundamental constitutional protections and tenets of federalism.”

Oddly enough, the letter has been overtaken by recent events because it fails to confront the chaotic state of play on the ground in Portland and other cities, including Seattle and Oakland. By its account, there is no reason for the federal government to intervene. The letter does not make any mention of the l**ting, r**ting, and arson that occurred in the aftermath of the k*****g of G****e F***d in Minneapolis, nor does it mention the direct and repeated acts of vandalism at the Hatfield Courthouse. It also does not refer to the spike in crime in major cities across the United States, including Minneapolis, Washington, Atlanta, and Philadelphia.

And it refuses to acknowledge that local police have sometimes been ordered to stand down during the violence, thereby exposing both federal property and the property of ordinary citizens to ruinous destruction, for which no compensation will come from either the local or state government. Nor have the mayors identified any effort by their own police departments to arrest and prosecute these offenders. Most conspicuously, the letter offers no substantive critique of the President’s recent Executive Order, which has as its object “Protecting American Monuments, Memorials, and Statues and Combating Recent Criminal Violence.”

One reason why these federal actions are unprecedented is the unprecedented indifference of state and local officials to mayhem and violence within their jurisdictions. The Mayors’ letter rightly points out that federal officials are not ideal for undertaking local policing efforts, which normally are better left to local officials who are trained to deal with crowd control and similar issues. But, unfortunately, the correct frame of reference throughout is the wholly unsatisfactory performance of state and local officials, who have refused to use their resources to quell these disturbances. Surely, the use of federal police is preferable to doing nothing at all, lest a Seattle-esque CHOP zone spreads to other cities, resulting in a breakdown in law and order, and an inevitable loss of life.

The letter’s claim that federal intervention violates long-standing legal standards governing federalism is profoundly mistaken. For starters, Trump’s Executive Order did not seek to take over operations throughout Portland, but was only directed to activities that were located around federal buildings—and there is specific statutory authorization for that. It is a federal crime under Title 18, Section 1361 of the United States Code for someone to “willfully” injure or commit “any depredation against any property of the United States.” The law specifies fines up to $1,000 and imprisonment for up to one year against such individuals. The federal government, in other words, is authorized to arrest those individuals for prosecution.

In addition, it is widely understood that the federal government today has broad jurisdiction under the Commerce Clause to the Constitution to punish, as federal law also provides, anyone who travels in interstate commerce or uses the instrumentalities of commerce “to incite a r**t” or “to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a r**t.” Indeed, Elizabeth Goitein of the Brennan Center unhappily conceded that the United States Code gives President Trump “broad authority to deploy the military in response to civil unrest,” though she added that “injecting military forces into a domestic crisis has the potential to make a bad situation worse.”

But has the federal power been abused, as many on the left claim, by officers in plain clothes using unmarked vehicles? Generally, all law enforcement persons, whether federal or state, should present their credentials to subjects of arrest. But police officials acting under emergency conditions, as in Portland, should be allowed to dispense with these formalities to protect their own safety. It would be folly to send in marked police vans, which could then be targets of crowd violence.

On July 17, Oregon’s Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum filed an unusual parens patriae lawsuit against the United States Department of Homeland Security seeking to halt allegedly systematic excesses and abuses of the Trump administration in quelling the protests. Parens patriae literally means “parent of the country”—and it involves the power of the state to act as a guardian on behalf of its citizens.

But what made the case, Ellen Rosenblum v. John Does, unusual is that no individual person sought redress for his or her personal harms. Rosenblum objected that officers seizing people on public streets “without any verbal explanation” violates the Fourth Amendment guarantee against unreasonable searches and seizures, and counts as an interference with the freedom of speech and of the right of the people peaceably to assemble. She did not press the claim that the use of unmarked vans gave rise to a constitutional violation.

Judge Michael Mosman—a George W. Bush appointee, who sits in the Hatfield Courthouse—dismissed her case a week later on the ground that the state did not have “standing” to represent its citizenry. But even assuming that these arrests were unconstitutional, the most Oregon could muster was two inconclusive incidents of possible federal abuse against individuals who notably brought no claim on their own behalf. Such evidence falls far short of the legal requirements which at a minimum require a plaintiff to show a “very particularized” injury and to demonstrate a high probability of success on the merits. Given the constant and tense interactions between federal officials and the local protestors, a record devoid of any concrete allegations speaks to the astounding performance of federal agents under the most trying circumstances.

The dismissal of the lawsuit does not block further individual actions, but it should serve as a reminder that the attacks on the federal officials were, at the very least, overwrought. Judge Mosman’s decision demonstrates how difficult it is to constitutionally protect the right of peaceful assembly when lawful protesters are commingled at night with violent actors. It is not too much to insist that federal (and state and local) officials try to target only dangerous persons for arrest and removal. But in fast moving and chaotic situations, the likelihood of error is common to both law enforcement personnel and demonstrators. In these circumstances, law enforcement officials should get the benefit of the doubt if it turns out that they arrested the wrong persons, unless it can be shown, which is highly unlikely, that those persons were known to be innocent observers at the time of their arrest.

In addition, it should be perfectly within the power of federal, state, and local officials to ban midnight protests that occur side-by-side with violent episodes, so long as other areas of protest remain available. Indeed, the limited scope of the federal intervention still leaves both Portland and Oregon ample room and opportunity to restore order within their jurisdictions. The sad conclusion is that the same Democratic leaders who proudly attack the President are, simultaneously, willing to expose their own citizens to personal injury and property damage to undermine the Trump administration.
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Informative piece, thanks for sharing. These lunatics have been left to run free long enough. This whole thing is completely RIDICULOUS, and needs to stop. I posted a Chicago police department presentation of the well planned attack on police officers on July 17th by the mob. Truly d********g 😖
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Jul 29, 2020 00:46:48   #
https://youtu.be/U1VdhQbfSTY

This is a Chicago police department presentation of the assault on the police of July 17th. It was clearly planned well in advance. People were changing under umbrellas and had concealed weapons and projectiles to use against the police. This is different than the unbridled r**ting and l**ting that's been happening. It was clearly planned out and supplied well in advance. The scary part to me is how many participants there were.
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Jul 29, 2020 00:17:08   #
dtucker300 wrote:
Yeah, wasn't their reasoning hilarious? Absurd, but hilarious.


Kinda sums up the Democrats. Absurd, but hilarious🤣🤣
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Jul 29, 2020 00:16:04   #
Marty 2020 wrote:
Just a comment on the title of this thread, In addition to kneeling for God, I sometimes kneel to draw a bead at 200 yards.


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Jul 28, 2020 21:35:20   #
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
This declaration by the English Department is a blatant insult to b****s. It is also a veiled insult to those of us who strive to be the best version of ourselves for the glory of God, insinuating that we are instead motivated by a desire for w***e s*******y.

While we're at it let's stop teaching math beyond simple addition and subtraction, since B*M.org functions at a second grade level. An' don' be talkin' 'bout no !@#$% racis' histories! We don' nee' dat !@#$% boring !@#$% ! I ain't gonna pay fo any dis #$% either! So !@#$% you whitey! B*M!
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Well, New York public schools decided last year that math is r****t
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Jul 28, 2020 19:37:20   #
JediKnight wrote:
Still no connection to the 50+ days of r**ting.

JEDI:
"Now look where we are with more and more positive cases..."

Which has a LOT to do with the mostly unmasked, close quarters r****rs.........
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Jul 28, 2020 19:10:27   #
Ike25 wrote:
You think the mother of a two year old boy is going to be working? She is probably drawing welfare and supporting all three of them on it.


I dunno. I was a single mom from the time my youngest was 10 months old. I was working and supporting myself with 2 children under 2 years old, and 2 more besides. BUT - any woman who'd allow that to be done to her child is unlikely to be working. Or doing much else, besides maybe crack
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Jul 28, 2020 18:43:21   #
dtucker300 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYujyWdr2qo&feature=youtu.be

Anthony Brian Logan


The English Department at Rutgers University has essentially declared grammar r****t in solidarity with the Black L***s M****r movement. Chair of the department, Rebecca Walkowitz, sent out an email on Juneteenth with a list of "tangible" next steps to aid in the "eradication" of.... (CONTINUE READING / SOURCES:


Lolololhahahaha are they having ebonics classes?
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Jul 28, 2020 18:36:17   #
John Meoff wrote:
I agree. All of them, including the OPP liberals who blasted him, owe Nicholas Sandmann. They will not offer one because that would take character, decency, honor, integrity and humility and they have none.


and to reiterate a post I made on another thread, Democrats don't give a rat's petooty about kids. Nick Sandman was 16 when this happened.
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Jul 28, 2020 17:46:08   #
jwrevagent wrote:
Trump Derangement Syndrome, characterized by a truly over the top hatred of our president and by extension, most of the people who v**ed for him, though those afflicted do not necessarily know if their own loved ones v**ed for Trump. Hooray for the secret b****t!


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Jul 28, 2020 16:55:59   #
TexaCan wrote:
Main Drain works for me!😜😜😜


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Jul 28, 2020 14:45:00   #
Marty 2020 wrote:
Brings to mind what’s underneath the drain, a Pee trap!😂😂😂


Lolololhahahaha
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Jul 28, 2020 14:43:51   #
JW wrote:
If you read the article, it said he CLAIMED to be a lawyer but has no evidence of that other than the license plate on his car.

BTW - the article doesn't say he took "shortcuts". It says he invented data, lied about his sources and his results, was published by prestigious medical journals and subsequently expunged and retracted from those journals. In other words, like any good anti-Trumper, lied his a$$ off and didn't care who he hurt in the process.


WELL SAID
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Jul 28, 2020 13:18:45   #
tbutkovich wrote:
Also where is B*M on babies/infants shot in Chicago! We know what a bullet does to an adult. Think about what damage a bullet can do to a baby or infant. There lives are ruined for the rest of their lives.

If the B*M movement wants a real cause to protest they should revise their mantra to Baby L***s M****r


HAH!! Like the left cares about babies or children
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Jul 28, 2020 13:17:49   #
TexaCan wrote:
What’s the difference.......you all work out of one main brain!😉😉😉😉


Main brain or main drain?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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