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Mar 11, 2019 17:16:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
That the past week or so you have been rather spiteful towards all members of the right...

FYI: MAGA doesn't refer to America not being great... It refers to the need to get America back on track...


So, "Make America Great AGAIN" does NOT imply that it isn't great now? Would love an explanation as to what you make of that. You can't make something great again if it is already great, greater maybe, just not great. Was the campaign slogan "Make America GREATER Again"? Pretty sure all the posters said "great" not "greater.
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Mar 11, 2019 15:45:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
"A perjury trap is a form of prosecutorial misconduct in which a prosecutor calls a witness to testify, typically before a grand jury, with the intent of coercing the witness into perjury (intentional deceit under oath)."

From above...
I believe that many individuals could be coerced into lying...
Threatening them with false crimes...
As I recall, Sessions recused himself from the investigation due to undisclosed meetings with Russians.. And it was later shown that he had no need to disclose these meetings..
A capable prosecutor could no doubt cause a petson to doubt their actions and so lie about them...
"A perjury trap is a form of prosecutorial mi... (show quote)


If you don't lie, no problem, if you choose to lie, you have only yourself to blame.
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Mar 11, 2019 04:22:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Just spiteful nothingness...

Wouldn't let it bother you....


What do you mean?
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Mar 11, 2019 04:21:29   #
proud republican wrote:
What do you mean????...Cuomo already got re-elcted last year!!!


Well then, I guess some people don't care if someone trashes America, either that or he had a far worse opponent or ran uncontested. I don't know, I don't live in New York so don't always pay attention to their politics. Not everyone has all the time in the world and nothing to do with it.
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Mar 11, 2019 04:11:57   #
proud republican wrote:
Just a reminder CSM Gov of New York said and this is his words ,NOT mine.."America was NEVER that great!",just saying...


Then I am sure he isn't likely to get re-elected.



Edit: Oh, what am I saying? Trump in essence said that exact thing and was elected, I guess he stands a chance after all.

Edit #2 Did you at least look at what I said in my previous comment, check that site for yourself? It is a real eye opener, of course I already knew about the v***r f***d schemes that the Republican party is known for, just neglected to commit to memory the nasty things they said to try to rile anger from the American people against Obama, well... I knew some of those statements, just not all of them.
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Mar 11, 2019 04:08:02   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Unless they were coerced... Right?


If an honest man is coerced into lying, well, I can't imagine what type of coercion it would take for me to lie. Please, offer examples that you can think of that might cause an honest man to lie.
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Mar 11, 2019 03:49:30   #
proud republican wrote:
https://www.redstate.com/diary/JeffC/2019/03/10/maga-hat-attacks-h**e-crimes-something-else/

https://legali**********n.com/2019/02/massachusetts-woman-who-attacked-maga-hat-man-now-in-ice-custody-was-in-country-illegally/


Interesting, in 2 years+ there have been 3 attacks on Maga hat wearers. I am actually impressed that the number isn't higher considering the message the hat implies, that America WASN'T great already, I have found myself resenting that campaign slogan due to that implied sentiment, I was never motivated to violence but then I am not easily motivated to violence.

I found something interesting too.

magus_melchior wrote:
October 4, 2008 - Governor Palin makes good on her promise to "take the gloves off". At a rally in Englewood, CO, she makes the first of many accusations that Senator Obama thinks that America is "imperfect", and that he "pals around with d******c t*******ts".


magus_melchior is an online moniker, and perhaps the real name of a Republican that claims they were going to v**e for Obama in 2008. Funny, Sarah Palin made that comment in an attempt to rile Republicans up, make them angry, make them h**e this politician that thinks "America is imperfect" and motivate them to v**e in 2008 on the premise that such an insinuation would anger the Republican base, Donald Trump Actually makes such a statement himself with his "Make America Great Again" slogan and Republicans are fine with that. Is there something wrong with this picture? It is an a*********n for Obama to say it (he actually never did), but it is fine for Trump to say it (he in essence really did say it with his MAGA slogan), does anybody else see a double standard here? I found the Sarah Palin quote here, http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/3479.

While anger over the insinuation that the wearer of the hat is in essence saying that America wasn't already great is no real excuse for physically assaulting that person, I would hold it less against them than someone who assaults someone wearing a "Yes We Can" (the campaign slogan of Obama) shirt or hat, "Yes We Can" isn't a derogatory statement about America but more of a motivational message.

magus_melchior wrote:
October 7, 2008 - A man wearing an Obama T-shirt in London is shot 3 times. The motivation is disputed, but the racial undertone is clear: the victim is black.


magus_melchior wrote:
October 20, 2008 - Reports in Wisconsin surface of a canvasser for Obama being physically struck in the face by a "man ranting about ACORN". A Chantilly, VA, woman driving a car with an Obama sticker-- with her children riding with her-- is shot at with a pellet gun. Police reports state that the shots were clearly aimed at the driver. The Asheville Citizen-Times reports that a dead bear cub, draped in Obama signs, is found dumped on the Western Carolina University campus. Following an Obama rally in North Carolina, several supporters returned to their vehicles to find the tires slashed.
October 20, 2008 - Reports in Wisconsin surface of... (show quote)



Oops, I guess I beat the number of victims and the severity of the attacks from 2 years+ in under 1 month, sorry, I didn't mean to show you up, really I didn't. And all that just from one page and that page covers only a 16 day period.
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Mar 11, 2019 01:49:11   #
Seth wrote:
Everything nearly every Democrat says these days is pure party line, just as Democrat policies ignore human nature.

There's truly something wrong, these days, in Democratland.

With that, I'll bid you a pleasant evening, I have an early commitment tomorrow.


Since I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, not a Libertarian and not an Independent (a somewhat newly formed party that I suspect is trying to artificially inflate their enrollment numbers by taking the name Independent), I REALLY don't have any such "party line", I can also guilt free v**e for anyone from any party WITHOUT feeling like I am letting my "party" down. I have and may v**e Republican again in the future, it won't be any time Trump appears on the ticket as a Republican but... To be fair and honest, I won't v**e for Trump regardless what party he claims at any time he runs for any office in the future, including 2020.
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Mar 11, 2019 01:33:58   #
Seth wrote:
Your thinking is totally convoluted. Trump didn't "nearly get us in a war with NK," he established what is an ongoing dialogue with Mr. Un, which has a better chance of getting denuclearization out of the mutt than paying him extortion money every time he rattles his saber.

There are various other points you ignore in favor of "the party line," but I have no idea what your experience is where life, work and so forth are concerned. Mine have been diverse, to say the least, and at 60+ I have a veritable cornucopia of life experience to look back on, including some near terminal situations and exposure to just about every type of human being.

I base my beliefs on personal experience.
Your thinking is totally convoluted. Trump didn't ... (show quote)


Party line? That is rich coming from you.




Edit: I wasn't aware that there was a "party line" for those like myself that are not affiliated with ANY party, You may want to let CD know that he is in breach of our no party affiliation "party line".
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Mar 11, 2019 01:32:03   #
bggamers wrote:
Honey my son suffers from gout he's a damn welder and he isnt rich its from eating beef nothing rich about that


Wikipedia wrote:
Gout occurs more commonly in those who regularly eat meat or seafood, drink beer, or are overweight.
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Mar 11, 2019 01:08:30   #
moldyoldy wrote:
Gout? The rich mans sickness, caused by eating too well


Sympathy ploy.
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Mar 11, 2019 01:08:07   #
bggamers wrote:
He's also old and in bad health and on his day for sentencing in a wheel chair


Same sympathy ploy every older criminal attempts to get acquitted/lighter sentences if convicted.
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Mar 11, 2019 01:05:19   #
Nickolai wrote:
The US economy was in far better shape just prior to the economic collapse of 2008 than it is now, and today we are drowning in far more debt than we were at that time. A stock market crash has followed every major stock bubble in our history, and right at this moment we are in the terminal phase of one of the greatest stock market bubbles ever. The stage is set for the most terrifying economic horror show in American history, and the clock is ticking away with each passing day.

Debt continues To Explode, Factories Continue To Be Closed, And U.S. Jobs Continue To Be Sent Overseas
The long-term trends that are gutting the U.S. economy continue to get even worse. As you will see , our goods trade deficit with the rest of the world hit a brand new record high in 2018, and last week set an all time high of $819 billion over $400 billion to China alone This constant outflow of cash is one of the reasons why we are unable to pay our bills, and so we have to keep begging the rest of the world to lend us our money back. Needless to say, this is one of the big factors that has fueled our 22 trillion dollar national debt. In addition, when we run absolutely massive trade deficits we lose factories and workers to other countries. Since China joined the WTO in 2001, the United States has lost more than 60,000 factories. As factories keep closing down, community after community is being gutted all across America, and without a doubt this is truly a major national crisis.

As The Economy Teeters On The Brink Of A Recession, U.S. Debt Levels Are Absolutely Exploding. But what we didn’t have was official confirmation from the Federal Reserve that the economy is really slowing down, but now we do. According to the Atlanta Fed’s GDP Now model, the economy is growing “at a 0.3 percent annualized rate in the first quarter2019 sure has been a weird year so far. On Wall Street, everything has been coming up roses for investors up to this point. Stock prices have risen more than 10 percent year-to-date, and the horrible crashes of late last year are quickly fading from memory. Meanwhile, the real economy is literally falling to pieces right in front of our eyes. Debt delinquencies are at unprecedented levels, bankruptcies are soaring, retail stores are closing at a record pace, this is the worst economy for farmers since the early 1980s, exports are plummeting and a brand new real estate crisis has now begun. Economic cancer is rapidly spreading throughout our country, and the U.S. economy is deteriorating at the fastest pace that we have seen since the last recession. So how long will it be before Wall Street catches up with economic reality?
The US economy was in far better shape just prior ... (show quote)


Actually, the economy now is better than the economy prior to the recession that Obama got dropped into his lap, it was better by the time that Obama left office than it was before that recession, the national debt now is worse than it was prior to that same recession but part of that increase was during Obama's term. Just for accuracy.
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Mar 11, 2019 00:59:31   #
PJT wrote:
Emarine. I don't consider Social Security socialism. We pay for it. If we die prematurelyad not married all we get is 250 toward burial. I do think SS is badly run but its not socialism.a


Ah, a Republican that acknowledges that SS, medicare/medicaid ISN'T socialism or an "entitlement" but rather something EARNED, something they PAID for, yet many Republican politicians threaten to destabilize those programs or cut them back.
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Mar 11, 2019 00:53:39   #
Seth wrote:
But what you consider facts have absolutely no foundation except the accusations Democrats have standardized for all who disagree with them.

If you read my entire post, you can't find anything that's not fact.


I have provided facts that support my opinions on Trump quite frequently in the past, should I continue posting facts that get ignored EVERY TIME I post them? Wouldn't that be spamming?

As for your "facts", I have pointed out time and again that those stats are just a mere CONTINUATION of a steadily improving economy, to claim that Trump had anything to do with the CONTINUATION, well, that is just the same thing Trump is always doing, taking credit for something he didn't really have anything to do with.

You imply that trade deficits and national debt are basically meaningless even though when Obama was in office, the right harped on and on and on about it, now that Trump is in office and both are worsening, now they are meaningless?

Corporate tax cut, please feel free to show the evidence that they have had ANY impact on the steadily improving economy. As for employers increasing their workforce because of the tax cut? Again, show me proof. Employers don't increase a workforce unless they are failing to keep up with demand or they are introducing a new product line or service, to do otherwise isn't good business, if you are keeping up with demand, there is no reason to hire more employees.

Your statements about the border, funny, a Republican mayor that is the mayor of a town RIGHT on the border says that their wall had little to no impact on the crime stats in his town. I have looked over the crime stats and can't say that I disagree with his assertions.

you wrote:
Trump offers peace and prosperity...


Trump early on nearly got us into a war with North Korea with his playground taunts of Kim Jong Un, I wouldn't call that peace. Prosperity? Look to my above statements as for the economy and how much impact I think he has had on it.

you wrote:
...the Democrats offer high taxes, oversized government bureaucracies, open borders, division among Americans with their identity politics and an unending series of "investigations" geared towards finding something, anything they can use to impeach the president.


Typical right wing rhetoric. Taxes specifically, needed for the running of the government and the ONLY way we can expect to get out of debt, not that you are all too concerned about that. Oversized government bureaucracies, Depends on what you consider oversized, many regulations are good for America and those regulations need enforcement. As for this "division over identity politics", same can be said in reverse. Unending series of investigations, legitimate investigations that have already resulted in indictments and even convictions already, unlike all those investigations launched by the Republicans during Obama's term, nearly 400 investigations with not one conviction and how many actual indictments? I would think even you could understand the simple t***h that indictments and convictions indicate that laws WERE actually broken, no convictions typically means laws were NOT broken.

Now, have I presented any proof, I have in the past but I tire of going back and finding the same evidence that repeatedly gets ignored so no, but then if you live in America and your head ISN'T buried in the sand, you should already know these facts. Perhaps if you and your fellow "righties" wouldn't just ignore any facts that don't fit your narrative, I wouldn't need to keep repeating myself, then wh**ever evidence I present to support my claims, it would be fresh in your mind because it will be something that I JUST posted. Don't expect me to have to keep posting the same evidence over and over, if you don't bother to acknowledge it, that is on you, not on me because I get tired of re-looking up the information that you will just continue to ignore.

I tell you what, you know the current economy stats? Why not go back where you got the current stats and look back to see what those stats were doing during Obama's term, look to just after the sharp incline,the sharp incline was only the economy normalizing after Obama stimulated the economy to correct the recession so that sharp incline should be looked past in the interest of fairness, and continue looking all the way to today and you will see steady growth that whole period.
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