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Jan 29, 2017 21:12:48   #
America Only wrote:
Yes you are "light years ahead"....all the way back to your home planet of....URANUS!


Another dumb-*ss dropout. Your metaphor is neither logically consistent nor apt, although I suppose, in your hands, it would at best be a metatwo.

All of these responses to my post and not a particle of substance. Its no coincidence of course. No game lil poseurs. You have the very air.
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Jan 29, 2017 18:02:52   #
Louie27 wrote:
I guess you must have forgot the ACLU filed an action to have the deletion of dead people, from the v****g data bases of Florida and at least one other state to be stopped, I believe, if my memory is accurate. If not more states.


Why am I surprised to have got a non sequitur answer?

The ACLU action ensued from purging v**er rolls almost exclusively in blue districts.
Be careful here. My daughter is an attorney working for the ACLU.
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Jan 29, 2017 17:57:16   #
bmac32 wrote:
You do know how long a light year is don't, me thinks you'd be dead in that amount of time.


Light years are a measure of distance, not time.

Try again.
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Jan 29, 2017 17:34:32   #
bmac32 wrote:
No secret flat out lie, 'you can keep you doctor'. Lie after lie, are you slow?


Not an instance of secretive behavior, is it missy?
Not even an illustration of "... lie after lie."

I may be slow, but I'm light years ahead of you.
And without breaking a sweat.
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Jan 29, 2017 17:28:10   #
Louie27 wrote:
Too bad that you are teaching your children to be purveyors of lying and deceit.


Too bad your IQ and shoe size are the same number.

If you "think" I've lied quote me and show the countervailing facts.
This ain't the schoolyard boy.
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Jan 29, 2017 17:15:27   #
bmac32 wrote:
OH sure the Obama government was SO open!


Can you cite an instance of secretive behavior?

Take your time.
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Jan 29, 2017 17:08:44   #
Ricktloml wrote:
Specious allegations and indignant denials of any wrong doing are the bedrock of liberalism, along with endless "good intentions" that not only never show any positive results, but in a lot of cases actual do great harm. The left's methods of advancing it's political and cultural agenda are outright lies, misleading information, or refusal to inform on issues and bullying and intimidation. Cementing any power they can gain through c***ting is the standard for the left. Of course they want no part of an investigation
Specious allegations and indignant denials of any ... (show quote)


Ever take a history course junior? Progressivism is FOUNDED ON openness in government, the removal of money from influence and universal v****g rights.
You might consider a course of anti-biotics. You're wallowing in cow pies.
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Jan 29, 2017 16:58:05   #
bylm1 wrote:
Wow! I had to read this list over 3 times to be sure I wasn't on the Onion site. Your lack of interpretation sk**ls is only exceeded by your glibness. You are listed as a new user but are you possibly a recycled poster from a ways back?


Lack of an answer noted.
Your problem is undoubtedly that I was using actual facts, not alternative facts.
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Jan 29, 2017 16:52:49   #
Pennylynn wrote:
I intend no disrespect to you, however the action on v***r f***d was by the democrats, in the form of recounts in several states. And if I recall, everyone on that side of the isle was praying for k**lary to recover enough v**es to take the e******n from President Trump. Now, President Trump says, I hear your concerns as a nation, let us find out once and for all if 1) i******s v**ed and 2) if the systems were tampered with. So, now the fine folks from that side, after months of cheering on the v***r f***d idea to actually saying that Russia hacked or may have hacked into the system says.... oh no, there is no v***r f***d. Here is a major issue, as I see it, with v**ers being on the roles after their demise. What if a person registered their aunt who died and then places a v**e for her dear aunt? Take the example of Melowese Richardson she is now in jail. She was convicted of v****g twice in the 2012 e******n and v****g three times — in 2008, 2011 and 2012 — for her sister, Montez Richardson, who has been in a coma since 2003. Is this happening all over the USA? We do not know and there is part of the problem. It is also a known fact, i******s do v**e. Perhaps they do it out of ignorance or they think because they have fraudulent identification cards or stolen IDs and they are on the tax rolls they have a right to v**e is unknown, but the fact is they do v**e. Here is a case of point, the Board of Immigration Appeals of the Executive Office for Immigration Review at the Justice Department held that a Peruvian citizen who illegally registered and v**ed in the 2006 congressional e******n could be deported for violating federal law. The only reason she was caught is because she applied for naturalization in 2007 and admitted in the INS interview that she had v**ed in an American e******n. Is one case worth the effort of a full scale investigation.... I think so. The law off nature states that if an event happens one time, it will be repeated.

So, although I agree with you and feel you presented well thought out response, I also believe that a full scale and in depth investigation has to be mounted regarding v***r f***d. It is not for the benefit of our current president that I say this, but for all future e******ns. As a citizen, it is my privilege to v**e. Whereas the Constitution does not address when a dead person or those in comas give up their right to v**e, it just seems to be commonsense that they no longer have a vested interest in the outcome of e******ns. I******s do not have a right to v**e in our national e******ns.... Indeed, other than the v****g provisions, the Constitution only uses the term citizen to define the qualifications for the House of Representatives, the Senate, the Presidency, guarantee of Privileges and Immunities (Article IV), the 11th Amendment (“citizens of another state”), and the 14th Amendment (naturalization and “privileges or immunities”). There isn’t much that the Constitution favors Citizens and not persons, but the right to v**e is one of them. Although some states are moving in the direction of allowing i******s to v**e in local e******ns, this will not change national e******n requirements. And that will make a problem all on its own.
I intend no disrespect to you, however the action ... (show quote)


There have been no claims of fraud from Dems. It is an established fact that Republican-dominated state governments have purged v**er rolls with, shall we say, unseemly zeal.
Several studies have been conducted over the years. None of them have found more than an infinitesimal small percentage of fraudulent v****g.
In my state, in order to r******r to v**e, a document recently dated from a known entity (a utility bill is the default) AND a picture ID are required. Those are very difficult to obtain fraudulently, don't you think? We did have a case of a fellow who registered here and in a neighboring state who v**ed in both states. He was a Republican member of the state assembly. He remained in office and won re-e******n last Nov.
This is, without question, an attempt by Repubs. to tip the board to their goal. Their lack of concern about one of their colleagues c***ting shouts that to the skies. So do the attempts in the US Senate to eviscerate ethics enforcement. Parallel occurences are reported in several states. Here's one from S Dakota. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/24/south-dakota-republicans-are-about-to-get-rid-of-the-states-first-independent-ethics-commission/&ved=0ahUKEwj76fTip-jRAhXLZiYKHZr6CNQQFghMMAY&usg=AFQjCNGKveogO8ymaeQFoX0T0RQ-nwvR9A&sig2=YwfLaqpy57bjpCuq0KKqJQ

It is very sad what has become of the Republican Party. They are almost universally either disingenuous or outright dishonest.

Consider: One of the provisions of the ACA was that, if an insurance company lost money in a particular market, ACA funds would make them whole. Recently, the Republican Congress indicated, in writing, that they would not release those monies. The natural (and expected) result was that insurance companies withdrew from marginal markets. The same Republicans who sequestered the funds said it was solely due to the ACA.
In my household we say: Question; how can you tell if a Republican is lying? Answer; his lips are moving.
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Jan 29, 2017 14:16:42   #
ACA
Oversight on banking and arbitrage to forestall marginal trading.
Restoration of respect for US diplomacy
Environmental controls
Reduction of our profile in Iraq, saving Amer. lives and money.
Spanking the reactionaries who shut down government, costing us billions.
The economy restored; the Dow at record highs from the low under Bush (about 180% growth)
Reduced unemployment from the highest its been since the depression to within 0.1% of what is considered full employment.
Cut deficits to below any level acheived by Bush, who, incidentally, inherited a budget in surplus.
Ended the use of "black sites" and torture, for which he was given the Nobel Peace Prize.
Improved public t***sit by a quantum leap.
Ran a t***sparent administration, leading the irrational right to accuse him, without evidence of being secretive (very funny to people with three digit IQs.)
Did something no Republican has done in 150 years; governed 8 years without a breath of scandal.
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Jan 29, 2017 12:58:28   #
Larry the Legend wrote:
"In an interview on CNN, Cornell William Brooks, president and CEO of the NAACP, insisted that his organization would “resist” the president’s investigation into fraud during the 2016 e******n."

Wow. My mental BS warnings just lit up like a Christmas tree. I wonder why? What are they trying to hide?

http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/naacp-doesnt-want-trump-investigate-v**er-fraud-problems-think-theyre-guilty-something/

They're claiming that quite apart from any alleged v***r f***d, there was actually a campaign of minority v**er suppression. Now I'm not all that familiar with the NAACP, but I'm willing to wager the farm that if this is true, we would have heard about it from the rooftops long before now. If there actually was widespread v**er suppression, as claimed, you'd expect them to welcome an investigation and subsequent report on the veracity of these reports. If I were in that position, I'd be vocally demanding an investigation.
"In an interview on CNN, Cornell William Broo... (show quote)


Because its a waste of time and money and it gives attention to a issue concocted to distract attention from real issues such as the debacle that is the immigration policy. Or any other of Trump's lies, delusions or fantasies.
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Jan 29, 2017 12:45:52   #
S. Maturin wrote:
Excellent. Haven't been treated to a full-throated moron theme song since your last post.


A statement is not moronic because you don't understand it.
All of those lunatic rantings about implausible conspiracies for which there is neither a tittle nor a jot of evidence have addled you.
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Jan 29, 2017 11:14:07   #
roadster wrote:
V***r F***d? Another who do you listen to? Certainly, a review of our Constitution, including Amendments, with a little (uncommon) common-sense and we could come-up with an answer.

1st- Stop believing someone is telling you they know how someone v**ed!

2nd- A person is registered to v**e, then somehow dies (unfortunately). That is NOT v***r f***d, that is life. People die! I doubt that when a person is dealing with the death of a loved one, the thought of notifying the e******ns dept. of the States Secretary of State is quite low on the list if on the list at all. Fraud is the purposeful deliberate falsifying something. I find most people far more honest than those elected. If he/she receives a v**e-by-mail type of form, they would throw it away. If someone v****g for a loved-one who has passed-away is an issue via Trump, I would lean to the Trump LIED to me side. Only 4 out of hundreds of millions and 3 of those v**ed Republican? Investigate honestly, with ethics as #1 meaning NO DECEIT, certainly.

3rd- People registered to v**e aren't enough? All of us v**ers have to agree. I'm personally disgusted with U.S. society in the area of v****g. All this b***hing & complaining about an unethical government and the fool talking isn't even registered to v**e. Maybe the real fool is the one listening to the un-registered loud-mouth. We should have 90+% involvement. My personal enemy is NOT the person with the opposite political point of view than me, it's the person who didn't v**e.

4th- Change of address? Really? At what priority is it to notify your State E******ns after you move? People do make sure their drivers license has the correct address as compared to v****g records. Change of address notification to the State E******ns dept. if NOT fraud. A person simply doesn't have such notification as a priority via our whole society. If some bureaucrat failed to make notation after being notified of a change in address, then yes incompetence is not something anyone should accept.

5th- Registered in more than one State? Problem! I live in Arizona, a snowbird State so the first thing that comes to mind is laziness. The thought I want to v**e in e******ns so I just register here (in another State) so I don't miss an e******n. We all compliment the person for their eagerness in v****g, but he/she is totally wrong. I assume they have their mail forwarded, common thing. So they v**e in the State he/she is residing and again in another State. Fraud! He/she must be aware of v****g twice in the same e******n.

Conclude this thing before it really turns into a novel. Investigate it? Absolutely! BUT, without DECEIT! No changing anything, just report the facts. It is OUR problem if something wrong is found. It's NOT the issue of e******ns being done in paper so shut-up about that one. U.S. society is simply WRONG with the point of "court of public opinion". YOU ARE NOT A COURT on the issue of public opinion. "Everything we say & do is a direct result of your own personal ethics." Wh**ever report that is released must be absolutely credible, NO DECEIT! Be ready to prove everything you say which shouldn't be a problem at all because the honest facts appear before a statement is made. If it is found out that Trump is a LIAR then in my opinion he should resign, but he won't. Rather, he'll come-up with something to get the gullible and loud-mouthed in our society agitated again. If Trump is telling the t***h, then we certainly have some work to do because as a U.S. citizen, I must have absolute faith in our e******n process.
V***r F***d? Another who do you listen to? Certain... (show quote)


A thousand words without a valid idea or a true statement. Congratulations, I believe you moved into the Rush Limbaugh Class.
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Jan 29, 2017 11:10:27   #
S. Maturin wrote:
Isn't the true ambition of the demprog cult obvious?

For eight years that mob backed a president- Obama- who deliberately operated as a foreign agent pushing anti-USA agenda and siding with criminals, and all the while, fighting honesty at the polls.


Jesus. Where do you work? Goodwill? Bagboy at the supermarket?
World-class incoherence. Get help.
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Jan 29, 2017 10:50:09   #
ACP45 wrote:
President Trump has claimed that he would have won the popular v**e had it not been for the fact of 3-5 million illegal v**es in favor of Hillary Clinton.

The Think Progress web site however states: "The notion that v***r f***d exists on a significant scale is one of the Trump administration’s “alternative facts.” According to a Washington Post analysis, out of the more than 135 million v**ers cast in the 2016 p**********l e******n, just four cases of v***r f***d were found — and three of the culprits v**ed Republican."

OK folks, we have a pretty wide disparity of opinion on the issue of "V***r F***d" and the need for "V***r R**********n Reform.

Here is what a 2012 press release by Pew Center on the States (a division of the Pew Charitable Trust, a "nonprofit organization that applies a rigorous, analytical approach to improve public policy, inform the public, and stimulate civic life") had to say on this problem back in 2012:

* Approximately 24 million v***r r**********ns in the United States—one of every eight—are no longer valid or have significant inaccuracies, according to the Pew Center on the States’ E******n Initiatives.

* At least 51 million eligible citizens remain unregistered—more than 24 percent of the eligible population.

* Nearly 2 million deceased individuals are listed as v**ers.

* Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.

* About 12 million records have incorrect addresses, meaning either the v**ers moved, or errors in the information make it unlikely any mailings can reach them.

“V***r r**********n is the gateway to participating in our democracy, but these antiquated, paper-based systems are plagued with errors and inefficiencies,” said David Becker, director of E******n Initiatives at the Pew Center on the States. “These problems waste taxpayer dollars, undermine v**er confidence, and fuel partisan disputes over the integrity of our e******ns.”

What has our government done to correct the fraud and v***r r**********n issues cited in this report since 2012. You guessed it - very, very little.

Is President Trump correct in his statement concerning the 3-5 million illegal v**es? Maybe, we simply do not really know the extent of the problem, and we should.

His call for an investigation and recommendation on action to correct the flaws in our current system is warranted. The integrity of the v****g process is critical to the proper functioning of our representative democracy.


https://web.archive.org/web/20120303020411/http://www.pewcenteronthestates.org/news_room_detail.aspx?id=85899370596
President Trump has claimed that he would have won... (show quote)


That these anomalies in v***r r**********n rolls exist says nothing about v***r f***d. . The issue is whether any of these spurious registrations v**ed. When the total v**es cast are compared to total registrations, the number of v**es cast is far fewer than registrations. We have always complained of low v**er turnout. That argues compellingly against any widespread use of multiple IDs used to v**e.
You need to suck it up. You got spanked in the e******n.
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