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Jun 27, 2015 16:21:24   #
Alicia wrote:
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I don't find Senator Sanders funny. With the backing he's been receiving from "the common folk" (no PAKS) he is doing rather well. He is having an influence on everyone else in the race.

At first I thought no chance but I am changing my mind. This just might be the e******n that is totally upended. I, for one, would be glad to see it.


I completely agree with you. I don't find Sanders funny, but I do find humor in the ultraconservatives' reaction to Obama winning twice and now Sanders looking like a real contender. And Bad Bob knows just when to poke them.
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Jun 27, 2015 14:57:25   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
Go back to your handlers and get a new response. You have worn this one out, but then you are not capable of anything else.


Don't listen to him, Bob. It's funny every time you post it.


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Jun 27, 2015 00:06:49   #
DamnYANKEE wrote:
BIG SMILE ??? From SUCKIN one , no doubt :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Way to keep it classy, Damn.
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Jun 26, 2015 16:08:01   #
Ricko wrote:
Ike-agree but let us put things into perspective. The population of Switzerland is approximately 8.3 million people. The population of New York city is 8.4 million people.
A plan to cover 8 million people is easily designed and administered. Conversely, when we are looking at covering over 300 million people the plan needs much more thought than was given the ACA. Also, the Swiss would have a higher patient participation rate than we here in the USA because we have so many low/no income people and many seniors who exist on Social Security alone. The democrats rushed into this thing just so that Obama could get something passed. Nobody read the entire plan but they passed it anyways. Good idea or not so good ?? I am all for people getting health care however there is only so much money to go around and when about 50% of our people depend on the government for their livelihood or assistance it puts a load on those who are working and paying the taxes. There does not appear to be an easy solution and we need a plan that is fair and equitable and benefits everyone in lieu of only those who are subsidized or on medicaid. Good Luck America !!!
Ike-agree but let us put things into perspective. ... (show quote)


If you are just talking about the size of the population, it is just a matter of scale. It seems to me that you are really saying that Americans as a whole are different from the Swiss as a whole. If you are on Social Security, you are probably also on Medicare, so that isn't an issue. We probably do have a higher percentage of people in poverty than Switzerland does, but we also have more wealth. We spend a lot more per capita on health care than the Swiss do for a lot worse results.
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Jun 26, 2015 16:04:05   #
Alicia wrote:
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I might be wrong but I do believe that system is already in existence. It's vague but I do call that policy holders can expect to receive refund checks from their insurance companies. I anyone knows more about this, please post it.


I think there is a provision in the ACA that health insurance profits cannot exceed a certain percentage of their income. I have never seen any statistics on whether insurance companies are at or exceeding that number. Bob threw out the number 30%. If that is their profit, I think it exceeds the maximum.
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Jun 26, 2015 15:59:27   #
mec2invest wrote:
Again you liberals miss the point. Who said anything about social security. Dude, that started in 1935 after the depression when half the people over 60 lost their life's savings. 1 in 6 people were on charity assistance. Social security was started and later disability insurarance to insure older Americans would never have to endure such hardships. Fast track 80 years today. Seniors retiring today no longer have assurance they will receive social security for their lifetime. Why? According to social security, 2 years ago they stated the program is in the red. That means more is paid out today than is being paid in. Let me explain this: the money hard working Americans and their employers paid into the last 40 plus years is not enough to cover even todays expenses much less the future. What does this mean? Your government turned this into a ponzi scheme by borrowing the reserves out of the fund to pay for your socialist agenda (freebies). They called it investing in our economy (actually freebies). We all know today every dollar our governement invest has a return of 1 to 2 percent. Reality-waste of money. We would have been better off investing in our US businesses (helping creating jobs)for a reasonable interest rate and return of principal. As bad as Japan's debt to GDP (over 200 %) they are smart enough to leave the money in their social security alone. Let me explain this: they did not borrow from their SS fund to spend on nebulous social programs. Their money is acutually there. Have you ever heard Obama lecture you need to invest in a US government IRA retirement account. Get ready its coming. Once the US looseses the World Reserve Currency and other nations realize the US can't pay its bills without borrowing and stop buying treasuries, the only place else is your 401k money. It will sound like this: invest in a govt ira for a safe secure return (1-2 percent) government backed. Good luck with that. If you Libtards allow that to happen and do not hold your elected officials responsible for passing a viable budget to pay for all this largesse, then there's no hope for you and have only youself to blame- not us illiterate conservatives. Your smoking fairy dust if you think they can print money forever with no serious consequences.
Again you liberals miss the point. Who said anythi... (show quote)


The shortfall in Social Security revenues could be fixed quite simply by eliminating the caps on income that is subject to FICA. Who do you suppose opposes doing that?
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Jun 26, 2015 15:57:05   #
Super Dave wrote:
The technical term for 'single payer' is 'Socialist Medicine'..

That's where the government gets to decide who does and does not get medical care.. It's called 'rationing'... It's kind of like a 'Death Panel'... But without the catchy name.


As opposed to the insurance companies deciding who does and does not get medical care, right? Because we know they have our best interests at heart.
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Jun 26, 2015 15:54:08   #
DASHY wrote:
Try to enforce the requirement that all health insurance companies in America be non-profit. That would be totally un-American and probably unconstitutional. We need a Swiss system here where the claim and payment is processed directly. It is called "single payer." That is the system that Obama wants and that is the system we will probably have (some day).


I agree, but not every European country has single payer. The Swiss system is similar to Obamacare in many respects, but differs in what, to me, is one big way: health insurance companies do not make a profit (at least those that cover the basic required insurance plans).
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Jun 26, 2015 15:44:35   #
Super Dave wrote:
You mean the one they don't follow?


No, that's not the one I mean.
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Jun 26, 2015 15:25:06   #
robmull wrote:
The ACA, as "WE" have warned you "demonrat" useful i***ts for years, comrade, is about to crush the crap out-of-you, falling under its own weight of incompetence.


We'll see.
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Jun 26, 2015 15:24:08   #
working class stiff wrote:
I think the title of the thread is too optimistic.

Strangely enough, I agree with Sen. Cruz when he said the issue is not for the Court to decide. While I may agree with the ruling, all it really said was that the ACA was not unconstitutional.

Doesn't mean the law cannot be undone by future legislation. It's an issue the American people will decide in future e******ns.


Exactly. And the law could also be improved, if Congress can get past the fact that it is now the law of the land.
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Jun 26, 2015 14:32:54   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
To boil it all down the majority of the SCOTUS stated that they will allow unconstitutional and illegal statues if they like what it is trying to achieve. Do people realize how dangerous that is? Roberts has gone out of his way to twist the law and Constitution to support Obamacare. It makes one wonder what leverage Obama, etal might have on him.


Or maybe becoming chief justice of the highest court in the land has made him see things differently. It has happened before. Earl Warren was much more conservative before he was appointed chief justice.
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Jun 26, 2015 14:30:08   #
astrolite wrote:
Your first sentence is an OUTRIGHT LIE! And I remember a comment from an insurance executive when the banks wanted to sell insurance themselves.........He said: "most of the money the banks have IS OURS! meaning the insurance company's) Do you really think that with most of the assets in America and owning most of it's politicans, the Insurance companies will let that happen??


Well, since we live in a democratic republic, it shouldn't be up to the insurance companies, should it? The only way they can prevent it is if they could spend unlimited amounts of money buying the v**es of our politicians. Oh, wait . . .
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Jun 26, 2015 14:24:32   #
From Blade Runner:

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Why Switzerland Has the World's Best Health Care System

Swiss citizens buy insurance for themselves; there are no employer-sponsored or government-run insurance programs. Hence, insurance prices are t***sparent to the beneficiary. The government defines the minimum benefit package that qualifies for the mandate. Critically, all packages require beneficiaries to pick up a portion of the costs of their care (deductibles and coinsurance) in order to incentivize their frugality.

The government subsidizes health care for the poor on a graduated basis, with the goal of preventing individuals from spending more than 10 percent of their income on insurance. But because people are still on the hook for a significant component of the costs, they often opt for cheaper packages; in 2003, 42% of Swiss citizens chose high-deductible plans (i.e., plans with significant cost-sharing features). Those who wish to acquire supplemental coverage are free to do so on their own.

99.5% of Swiss citizens have health insurance. Because they can choose between plans from nearly 100 different private insurance companies, insurers must compete on price and service, helping to curb health care inflation. Most beneficiaries have complete freedom to choose their doctor, and appointment waiting times are almost as low as those in the U.S., the world leader.
(Note: UNLIKE OBAMACARE, each Swiss citizen can tailor their coverage for their specific health care needs. A healthy single male, for example, does not have to pay for any female specific diseases or maladies, a******ns, contraceptives, t*********r surgery, cancer care, L**T specific diseases, HIV, etc. Premiums and deductibles are figured accordingly. And, the claim and payment system is processed directly, rather than through the morass of a government exchange or a bureaucratic maze.

One other important point about the Swiss system is that all health insurance companies are required to be non-profit.
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Jun 26, 2015 14:14:05   #
Workinman wrote:
Cheer on you piece of crap along with you other trolls...58 % of the people do not want o care...this administration is the most corrupt in Americas history...you and and all the rest of you progressives are T*****rs...all you have done is move us closer to a full out r*******n....clowns like you will be part of the fallout...get f*g...


Finally, a thoughtful comment that shows we can respect each other even when we disagree. Good job!
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