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Jun 6, 2015 17:57:33   #
I think this article speaks for itself on how charity to those who cannot support themselves should be helped.


http://dailysignal.com/2015/05/30/the-founders-model-of-welfare-actually-reduced-poverty/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=saturday&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRoguqXLZKXonjHpfsX56%2B8pUKO0lMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4JRcJjI%2BSLDwEYGJlv6SgFQrLBMa1ozrgOWxU%3D
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Jun 6, 2015 16:59:05   #
grumbledog wrote:
What a bunch of BS. The primary functions of the Department of Education are to "establish policy for, administer and coordinate most federal assistance to education, collect data on US schools, and to enforce federal educational laws regarding privacy and civil rights."[1] Those primary functions do not make the DoE Constitutional!

The Dept. of Education, like all of our other bureaucracies is Unconstitutional, authorization is not found anywhere in the enumerated powers of Constitution. The enumerated powers are the only powers given to Congress by the Constitution and nowhere is authority given to establish bureaucracies to run our government. If you don't believe me read them for yourself. You are the one spreading bull s**t and you are getting it all over yourself.
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Jun 6, 2015 16:26:43   #
PeterS wrote:
Well we only call them prejudices because that's what they are. You base your morals on a book that you neither wrote nor can you question and you ridicule us because we have learned to use our own minds. And one thing you missed is that both sides have crazy only we leave ours on the streets while you elect yours to congress!

http://paulboylan.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/bachmann-41.jpg

"But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until s***ery was no more in the United States. ... I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forbearers who worked tirelessly -- men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until s***ery was extinguished in the country." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, botching American history while speaking at an Iowan's for Tax Relief event in January 2011. The Founding Fathers did not work to end s***ery, and John Quincy Adams was not one of the Founding Fathers.

Tell me what Bachmann said that was so wrong. In order to get the Constitution ratified, many antis***ery colonies had to go along with compromises that allowed s***ery to exist in the south. Many of these antis***ery forbearers went along because it appeared s***ery would die a slow death on its own. John Quincy Adams was not one of the founding fathers, but opposed s***ery just the same and worked to end it. Unfortunately, s***ery did not end until we had a civil war over states rights and the Republican President Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. It further took the 13th, 14th, (1868) and 15th Amendments to finally start the process of correcting the issue of s***ery and e******y for all. The fight in some respects is still going on, and there are some issues left to settle. Peter, don't be so selective with your facts, like Backmann and probably me, you don't have all your facts together. I hope you didn't conveniently leave out facts that don't fit your ideological scenario. If you did that purposely then that makes you a liar, not knowing other wise, I will go with you misstated parts of the issue, it happens.
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Jun 6, 2015 15:19:45   #
Alicia wrote:
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If you believe what you've stated as the "agenda" of the Left, that is proof enough that your own mind has been restricted into thinking along the lines of your parents. I don't know what your chronological age is, but mentally you are an old person who is trying to hold onto the past. (It wasn't all that good, you know.) A lot of it was better than now, though. You kind of remind me of a far left i***t who gets a small burn on their hand from a grease splatter while cooking and then sticks their hand into the fire to relieve the pain of the small burn before they realize the consequences. Of course, the small burn no longer hurts it was replaced by the larger more painful burn. You are just another Obama loving useful i***t and I can't wait until the real pain reaches your single brain cell.

There is only one way to go for the betterment of this country; and that is Progress and not regression. That's already been done and hasn't worked out too well. I'm sorry you live in such fear of growth. How are you going to finance this growth? I am not in fear of growth, I am in fear of all the ideological l*****t i***ts who want to control everything to make it happen. A c*******t utopia with equally shared misery for the proletariate and a life of luxury for the elitist plutocracy dictatorship who will administer it. That's what you are going to get if you survive long enough to see it.
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Jun 6, 2015 00:51:38   #
JW wrote:
I agree with much of what you say but there are distinct parallels to 1930s Germany. Hitler was not elected dictator, he accomplished that by what we might call executive action. (Sound familiar?) He never had more than a 30% constituency in the legislature but managed to ram his agenda through. (Sound familiar?) He showed no regard for the average citizen but focused only on where he wanted the country to go. (Sound familiar?) The German people were regarded as a very law abiding people, a nation of laws. (Sound familiar?) He divided the country between his favored and those he h**ed. (Sound familiar?) Once established, he acted through his various agencies, the courts, the secret police, etc. to move his agenda rather than using the previously established means. (Sound familiar?) By the way, we call our secret police, Homeland Security. Just like Hitler's GESTAPO, Homeland Security is asking us to report our neighbors for anything we might deem suspicious.

The rest of your comments bear serious consideration.
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JW, that was a pretty good summary of what has gone on and what is currently going that parallels 1930's Germany.
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Jun 5, 2015 22:33:08   #
Alicia wrote:
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FACTS please. How do you know what they're taking out of their pockets? You make overall statements that are ridiculous.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79888.html

http://www.nationalreview.com/home-front/357562/which-political-party-more-charitable-nancy-french

http://www.ethicsdaily.com/republican-states-give-more-to-charity-than-democratic-states-cms-19923

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100614122524AAoZzpm

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/charitable_giving_liberals_vs_conservatives/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/giving-back-_n_3781505.html

Do you need more? I can get more. I believe I can find more left leaning sites stating the same if a couple are not enough. Alicia, you make the ridiculous statements with no facts what so ever. I believe you comments over ran your brain!
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Jun 5, 2015 22:06:22   #
Steve700 wrote:
Nobody wants to impose s**t on you (except maybe some liberals in their overregulation of everything) We would just like to see you wake up and quit blaming America and r****m for everything & take the proper notice of conservatism as the antidote to tyranny and poverty that it is. Liberalism encourages and creates poverty (and pretty much corruption and criminality as well) through its core attribute of negative thinking. Everything from a liberal is either a complaint or a lie, or both.
What do you mean by saying "I'm talking about preaching bulls**t under the premise that money is going to fall from the sky to get people out of poverty" as if that was something conservatives tell people, when it is the liberals who are doing that? -------- and I know you have some kind of a conscience and intuitive knowledge about right and wrong, but those things I said DO need to be taught and preach & are needed to counteract the constant barrage of leftism from TV, popular culture, your news, the educational system, even our very culture and the government itself, etc. etc.

I think instead of the schools teaching so much leftism. There should be three hours or 1/2 a school day per week, the v**ed to morals ethics and values, personal reliance, responsibility & accountability honesty and discipline and their prime importance to the well-being of the individual, society and the country that they live in. I mean, would that not be a great recipe for success; I mean for prosperous and productive individuals & a righteous and prosperous country or what ???????? Wud da ya think; what do you think of that conservative idea ??????
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Jun 5, 2015 22:03:23   #
KHH1 wrote:
I'm kool...my parents were the only people I ever NEEDED...as a youngster...they made it where I did not need no one to do anything for me.. I suggest they raised you the right way in every way except, being humble like I bet they are or were. You are way too quick to blame w****s even though I am sure there were some w****s involved in you success.because very few people have the character to help another without making them suffer some indignity..... Unfortunately that is true in some cases. the right and welfare proves that theory...many canont help themselves here in OPP Straw men all, made by your concept of race and bias. and think someone needs their azzes,piss on that whole concept........The last line is a waste of worthless words. I addressed this response because I felt you were responding to my remarks earlier to you. If not oh well...




no I was taught to not also let people talk down to me and be humble at the same...but since you all act like you are too phucking stupid to realize I speak back in response to degrading statements directed my way, think what you like...who cares? Just don't let you biases get in the way of your intelligence and talents, that would truly be sad. yes, there were a few w****s that really aided my success. an engineer, a technical manager and my doctoral professor who is the reason i am one. Like I said earlier I like seeing others and other races do well because it helps us all do well.

and if you think the last part is a strawman based on MY view of race and bias...go back and review how your ilk degrades welfare recipients...independent of any conversation with me and see for yourself......... I can't speak for them but both you and I know their are many gold brickers on the dole of all races and unfortunately they are the ones that stereotype even the ones who really need the help. I can't help that situation, but I know how to cure it.

and I do not blame w****s for anything personal because they have not stifled my success but I have had many try to and in some instances create unnecessary difficulties... There are many people in this world who like to create difficulties, kind of like the lady at the DMV who makes everyone's visit miserable. That's how life works sometimes. and maybe you do not know the difference between a victim and an intended victim but I do....
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Jun 5, 2015 18:05:47   #
dwallace2015 wrote:
Study this and learn.

http://www.educate-yourself.org

Follow up articles with research and you will find t***h.


Use quote reply!
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Jun 5, 2015 17:34:03   #
dwallace2015 wrote:
You're missing Obama deliberately trying to sabotage America's economic system and crash our country into Nationalist Socialism. (What used to be called N**I-ism) Obama is Islamic. That means he has sworn an oath to Allah to destroy us.


to whom are you replying?
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Jun 5, 2015 16:23:17   #
KHH1 wrote:
I'm kool...my parents were the only people I ever NEEDED...as a youngster...they made it where I did not need no one to do anything for me.. I suggest they raised you the right way in every way except, being humble like I bet they are or were. You are way too quick to blame w****s even though I am sure there were some w****s involved in you success.because very few people have the character to help another without making them suffer some indignity..... Unfortunately that is true in some cases. the right and welfare proves that theory...many canont help themselves here in OPP Straw men all, made by your concept of race and bias. and think someone needs their azzes,piss on that whole concept........The last line is a waste of worthless words. I addressed this response because I felt you were responding to my remarks earlier to you. If not oh well...
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Jun 5, 2015 14:32:55   #
KHH1 wrote:
You people do not even voice your concerns for poor w****s so i know you could give a phuck less about b****s.. I care about b****s and the others you mention here. I want to see a very successful black middle class because the more successful they are the better every one else is too. Success pays better than living on the l*****t welfare plantation. unless it presents an opportunity to demean them...phuck religion...people need education and jobs related to the education attained...can't pray your way out of poverty..... Agreed! as a scientist... Fantastic, what kind? I h**e when people apply spiritual bullschit to things that require worldy solutions...i'm not a s***e....... That statement makes you special? your people told them how to accept schit in order to get to heaven.......and live out hell on earth...as your people lived their heaven on earth themselves... I am white and like many w****s and other races, heaven on earth was far removed from reality, b****s are not the only ones who suffered indignities in their lives. you all can kiss my black azz...... Don't believe I want to or need to, I owe you nothing as you owe me nothing. do in need to post the picture of my black ass?...haha I doubt if the black hole sucking every ones Karma in would be impossible to detect.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:03:06   #
This may contain ideas of how to legally screw the oppressive government we now have. I think all of us know someone who seems to always be a step or two ahead of the revenuers. Just food for thought for some.


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/06/did_charles_murray_write_the_wrong_book.html
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Jun 5, 2015 13:44:12   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
1.) We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.
Funny how that works. And here's another one worth considering.

We judge people by their sense of responsibility for having a dangerous weapon and their cowardice in not tying their name to the weapon. Marv, you are an i***t are you, the first thing all governments do as they turn on their citizens is to register all guns closely followed by door to door confiscation. I am afraid that will be extremely bloody in this country. Everyone I know who has guns won't give them up without a fight to the death. What part of the Second Amendment says you must register your arms? That's right it ain't there is it. Registering weapon in an infringement upon the rights of the citizens of this country. You can go peaceably to the reeducation (FEMA) camps to be made into soylent green if you want but many will not.

PoppaGringo wrote:
2.) Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money.
How come we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money? What's interesting is the first group "worked for" their money, but the second didn't.
Think about it..... Last but not least:

MarvinSussman said:
Congress cannot possibly run out of money. I know most l*****t progressive c****e Marxist/democrats are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, but you must be towards the bottom of the list. We are already bankrupt, AKA Greece, we owe more money that the next few generations can even pay back if the spending stop now. I can't believe you l*****t cannot see what's happening to our nation as a result of years of l*****t policies.Most people on food stamps are children, elderly, and the working poor. Not to mention the gold brickers illegally collecting entitlements, which far out number those who cannot support themselves and need it to survive.

MarvinSussman wrote:
All the people cutting benefits for veterans are the budget-cutting conservatives in both parties.

You immediate family were all immigrants, taking land from the natives. Come down off the soapbox.


While it's true my immediate family were immigrants from Germany, the native indians had long been removed by others before we arrived. My family homesteaded in Northwest Iowa and we still farm there. We legally purchased the property and have owned it since sometime right after the civil war. I agree the native indians got screwed over by the white man but my family didn't have anything to do with it. I guess you could say we took advantage of it though.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:09:02   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
3 short sentences
When you v**e for an incumbent you are perpetuating our government as it is now. Nothing will change.

These three, short sentences tell you a lot about the direction of our current government and cultural environment:

1.) We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.
Funny how that works. And here's another one worth considering.

2.) Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money.
How come we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money? What's interesting is the first group "worked for" their money, but the second didn't.
Think about it..... Last but not least:

3.) Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WWII, but we are not stopping payments to i*****l a***ns such as monthly payments for each child, money for housing, food stamps, free education including college and also the right to v**e?



Am I the only one missing something?No!
If not, pass this along.
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