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Mar 16, 2020 07:56:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How will California deal with the homeless and i******s?


Some reports have California buying a hotel and leasing others to provide both for students who use the dorms and homeless.
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Mar 9, 2020 07:42:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
American Said He Felt safer in China Amid C****av***s Outbreak
ChinaWire

A 36-year-old US citizen from Cupertino, California, visited Kunming, China, almost 1,000 miles southwest of W***n, where the c****av***s outbreak originated, on January 25.

When the Bay Area resident and user-experience designer — who requested to stay anonymous visited China, there were at least 217 confirmed cases of C****-**, the illness caused by the v***s.

And following his trip, he observed just how differently the governments of both countries dealt with the growing outbreak of the v***s that has now infected more than 94,000 people and k**led more than 3,200 other people.

He said that he saw locals and Chinese officials understanding the severity of the outbreak and taking safety precautions. That contrasted heavily with his colleagues' blasé attitudes back in the US and a disorderly experience at San Francisco International Airport upon his return on February 2.

In China, he noticed precautions being taken.


Cathay Pacific Airways flight attendants wore masks aboard, as did many Chinese residents, he said. The man said locals likely remembered what it was like experiencing the 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, and knew how to prepare.

(While masks can help prevent people who are already sick from spreading the illness, they're not very effective for healthy people trying to avoid getting it. Health experts recommend washing your hands thoroughly and avoiding close contact with people who are sick.)

Passengers also went through full-body screenings with infrared thermometers at the airport in Kunming, he said.

When a relative with late-stage cancer died while the man was visiting, the body was taken away by people in protective suits as a precaution.

The Chinese government had issued an order to cremate the body of a loved one within 12 hours of their death in case they had the v***s, something the man said he and his family followed.

A family in W***n was described as having to do the same in a New York Times report on February 10.

But returning to the US was a different story.

He said "the alarm bells" sounded when he saw how the outbreak was being addressed at San Francisco International Airport.

"They literally had no idea what they were doing," he said, adding that one airport official even admitted that since things had escalated so quickly they were in disarray.

As passengers got off the plane, no one was at the gate to recording their temperatures, he said. (One of the symptoms of the disease is a fever, though a few cases are asymptomatic.)

He also said no one was wearing masks.

It took him hours to go through customs, get his temperature taken at customs, and fill out paperwork. The man said the paperwork that the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention gave him was handwritten and then photocopied.

People returning from China were taken from the immigration gate to a designated area to have their temperature taken. But since neither he nor his family members exhibited any symptoms or felt sick, they weren't tested for C****-**.

Passengers coming from China had to wait in "the little black room" in the airport, typically used for passengers with visa problems, he said.

The Bay Area resident said immigration officials didn't wear any sort of protection and were impatient with people, telling them to stop asking questions when they inquired about the wait time.

"It was really not a good experience at that point," he said.

If he had returned from China's Hubei province, he would have been given a government-mandated quarantine.

But what he was given instead was a verbal recommendation to stay home and avoid going in public for 14 days. CDC officials also gave passengers cards with guidelines about how to self-quarantine and told him to give it to a primary-care doctor, should he visit one.

Thousands of people in California and beyond are self-quarantining in response to the outbreak, regardless of whether they are experiencing symptoms.

He said that the CDC never contacted him during his quarantine to check in on his and his family's health and that there was no form or other documentation to submit at the end of the quarantine.

"I'm seeing reports now that the CDC is monitoring, but what are they monitoring?" he said.

He worked from home. He said his son went to school the day after the family returned to the US, despite the man's request to allow his son to stay home and for his absences to be excused. It was only after concerned parents learned of the family's trip to China that the school allowed the boy to stay home, he said.

He said that if his son had had the v***s, the boy could have passed it along to others at school in just that one day.

He completed his quarantine on February 17, but concerns about the v***s loom as cases are reported throughout the US.

He said that based on his experience in both China and the US as the c****av***s has spread, his family was actually considering going back to China since they felt safer there.

"As someone who was in China during the initial outbreak/lockdowns and restrictions and seeing the situation develop here in the US I am 100x more concerned for my own safety during this crisis than I ever was in China," he said.

As of Thursday, there were 130 confirmed cases in the US across 16 states, including New York and Washington. There have been cases of "community spread" in the US, meaning people who contracted the v***s despite not traveling outside the US. And CDC test kits for the v***s are limited.

"We're the richest country in the world," he said. "We should be the most prepared."
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The only true way for a country to be prepared is when the government identifies and reacts to a problem. Unfortunately to many sources have the president and the present adminstration not considering the reports of the v***s important enough to react . VP Pence who was put in charge of the reaction group has a history of negative responses to siturations like this.
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Jan 8, 2020 22:18:01   #
American Vet wrote:
The proof is in the results. Go back and read the numbers.


As of June 21 2019
Yep let's look at the numbers ;
The number of apprehensions at the southwest border plummeted from 144,000 in May 2019 to just 42,649 in November – the last month for which the government has data. The number of border crossing apprehensions with a family member went from 84,486 in May to a mere 9,000 in November.

There is no arguement that the law had to be changed for the last twenty years the illegal crossings were considered to be a misdemeanor . When Trump started he changed the law to a felony. That change has caused the apprehensions to drop. Stating that Obama didn't deport a large number of person out of the country is a bit of stretch.

By the numbers: Under the Obama administration, total ICE deportations were above 385,000 each year in fiscal years 2009-2011, and hit a high of 409,849 in fiscal 2012. The numbers dropped to below 250,000 in fiscal years 2015 and 2016.

Under Trump, ICE deportations fell to 226,119 in fiscal 2017, then ticked up to over 250,000 in fiscal 2018 and hit a Trump administration high of 282,242 this fiscal year (as of June).ICE and DHS didn't respond to a request for comment. Immigration has been a political football for as long as it has mattered and will always will be.
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Jan 8, 2020 07:59:36   #
American Vet wrote:
President Trump came into office vowing to stop out-of-control i*****l i*********n. Democrats called him a r****t who would deny desperate asylum seekers, and fought him tooth-and-nail, using everything from activist judges to denying wall construction funds they once supported. Then, they mocked him for failing to keep the promises that they moved Heaven and Earth to prevent him keeping. Well, guess what: despite all their best efforts, he’s still managed to keep his promise to greatly reduce i*****l i*********n, and it’s helping American workers, particularly African-Americans who had lost low-sk**l jobs to easily exploitable i*****l i*******ts.

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/01/06/trump-is-quietly-winning-bigly-at-the-border/

That link provides some startling numbers and information you’re not likely to hear from the mainstream media: “The number of apprehensions at the southwest border plummeted from 144,000 in May 2019 to just 42,649 in November – the last month for which the government has data. The number of families caught crossing illegally went from 84,486 in May to a mere 9,000 in November.”

And what’s to credit for that turnaround, when a border wall has yet to be built? It was a change in policy that the El Paso Times says has proved to be “a virtual wall.”

Trump did away with the Obama “Catch and Release” policy. Under that, when someone was caught sneaking in illegally, they just had to say, “Asylum!” Then, our officials were required to take down their information and release them (on the US side of the border!) with a court date in the far future that few ever showed up for. It was a combination Golden Ticket and "Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free” card for illegal border crossers. Anyone who suspected they were gaming the system was called a r****t who didn’t care that these poor people’s lives would be in danger if they were sent home because we had to believe that they were legitimate “asylum seekers.”

Trump replaced that with a new policy called “Migrant Protection Protocols” (MPP), nicknamed “Remain in Mexico.” I*****l i*******ts who try claiming asylum are sent back across the border to wait until a judge evaluates their claim of needing asylum. And here’s a detail that should be headline news: so far, judges have resolved over 100,000 MPP claims and found that fewer than 1% of them qualified for asylum! That's a 99%+ rate of gaming the system.

The story notes that as word spread that the jig was up, and any “Asylum!” claims would be evaluated by a judge for legitimacy while the applicant waited in Mexico, illegal border crossings plummeted. Which suggests that Trump’s denying them wasn’t hard-hearted, r****t inhumanity but just refusing to continue being a willing sucker.

By the way, Trump’s threat of tariffs convinced Mexico to take over holding the detainees on their side of the border (i.e., Mexico really is paying for the “virtual wall.”)

https://www.mikehuckabee.com/latest-news?id=5679E71D-F34F-4A21-8C89-BA904DAD01D5&s=99BA
President Trump came into office vowing to stop ou... (show quote)


Sorry it not all Obama the name Catch and Release is a catch all indicating a series of collection of policies, court precedents, executive actions and federal statutes spanning more than 20 years, cobbled together throughout Democratic and Republican administrations.

The Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act of 2000 (TVPA) is a federal statute passed into law in 2000 by the U.S. Congress and signed by President Clinton. With reauthorization by Bush , Obama and Trump. Then later on Trump signed an executive order to change. At which time normal logical thought would have suggestions on how to follow through also listed. To give a directions on to proceed. Which he did not, you can say it is not his job. As a leader you have give some direction. Especially if the people whose job it is are dysfunctional.
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Dec 23, 2019 07:37:28   #
zillaorange wrote:
Somehow slick willy got around that. How would you explain that ?


Bill got impeached and then it went to the Senate it was determined that the articles weren't enough to remove Clinton from office. So in response the Reps lost seats. Ether it was because the general public thought it was not enough reasons presented for impeachment or that the Senate fumbled the ball.
It may have been one reason why it took so long for the house to agree that an impeachment was needed. According to the polls the public was ready , what really pushed it over was the Ukraine call. Someone reported the conversation
it was checked, then verified then sent up the chain. One thing is for sure it appeared that both Nixon and Clinton both respected the system which gave Congress the power to check and balance the high office.
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Dec 22, 2019 14:38:52   #
American Vet wrote:
And the House presented the evidence. Thus there is no need for the Senate to call any further witnesses - they evaluate the "evidence".....they are the jury.

Nancy is wanting more witnesses: Where were they earlier?


Rudy Giuliani (Sept. 30)
documents. he said no let them hold me in Contempt I'll sue

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (Sept. 27)
documents. told reporters in greece
"Sadly there have been congressional inquiries that have harassed and abused State Department employees," "We'll obviously do all the things that we are required to do by law,"

Mick Mulvaney
Mulvaney said in a news conference Trump administration’s decision to hold up military aid was linked to Trump’s demand for the investigations. He later walked back his remarks.

These can put some light on the yes or no of Trumps innocence, why not allow them to speak or produce the documents when it could put the case to rest.
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Dec 21, 2019 20:10:36   #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Why help em?


In both parties there are three types of v**ers who v**ed in 2016,
The solid supporters, the ones who v**ed anyone but, the last v**ed because they liked what was being said. The first don't need to be convinced, The second are leaning one way or the other but will v**e the other way if the right candidate was running. The third ones are having second thoughts. The second and third have to be convinced to stay the course. By allowing the subpoenaed people to say their piece it might be enough to convince the second and third v**ers.
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Dec 21, 2019 13:53:42   #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I don't think you Constitutional experts fully understand the prescribed impeachment process. He isn't afraid of anything except he doesn't want to participate in an unconstitutional process. If the House wanted certain witnesses to testify, why didn't they call them? What was the hurry? Now there seems to be no hurry as they haven't submitted the articles to the Senate and they have recessed until January. Why is it up to McConnell to pull Nancy's chestnuts out of the fire?


The dems tried the only way to call is to use a subpeona and Trump and the adminstration are fighting them all.
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Dec 21, 2019 12:52:27   #
American Vet wrote:
Did the House Intelligence Committee investigate? Did they call their witnesses and produce their evidence? Did they reach a conclusion about they information they gathered?


Impeachment is a two step process the house already has the articles approved and ready so Trump has been impeached.
Now the articles have to be sent to the senate for the second step the impeachment trial.
Sorry reread, may not be considered formal until presented.

Impeachment. If a federal official commits a crime or otherwise acts improperly, the House of Representatives may impeach—formally charge—that official. If the official subsequently is convicted in a Senate impeachment trial, he is removed from office.

Senate.gov › reference › Index › Impeachment

U.S. Senate: Impeachment
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Dec 20, 2019 19:56:53   #
Radiance3 wrote:
You are confused. The GOP members went down the Congress basement where they were conducting the meeting in a closed door. They knocked and the door was not opened. I won't repeat this with you anymore, wasting my time, not worth it.


The secure room that both B******i and inpeachment investigation were held is in the basement. It is called Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, a basement room in the Capitol or rather the SCIF.
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Dec 20, 2019 00:34:29   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Remember when we saw the Republicans went down to the Congress basement where the radical dems lead by Schitt were deliberating in closed doors. The doors were locked and the Republicans could not enter.


This is the full reason House parliamentarian cited when he requested that Mr Gaetz leave,

The exchange occurred during opening statements and Schiff’s staff had to get a ruling from the House parliamentarian, who determined House deposition regulations have always been construed to only allow members of committees conducting the deposition to participate. Gaetz agreed to leave the room.

Also if you remember the group entered a area where phones aren't allowed
and since it was supposed to be secured in the first place it would be logical
to have the door locked. The same house rules used by the Republicans to keep B******i investigation in a closed door meeting.
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Dec 20, 2019 00:11:31   #
Radiance3 wrote:
Overall the impeachment is wrong. Nothing to impeach. The president has the right to investigate any diplomatic involvement with foreign countries, under his power, especially when it involves material consideration and mutual diplomacy. It is a protocol to know the other party the country's history, honesty, compliance, and integrity of the leaders involved. All these are essential policies to be done and enforced before any action proceeds. Failing to doing these are dereliction of duties on part of the president. But the president did exactly what needed to be done, and he must be commended for that instead of being accused to abuse of power. That power on the first place is vested on him as the Commander in Chief, as the Chief-Executive of this country. He was exercising his rights and privileges, and no one must stop him for doing that. The 3 branches of government have equal powers. The president has his own.

Sensitive information? I do not agree the fact that every meeting of the Adam Schiff's committee was isolated in secret and denied the presence of the Republic committee. That is not justice. That is a subversion of any justice proceedings. Adam Schiff manipulated and monopolized his proceedings to ensuring that only his party could discuss what plans and schemes they could make in violations of the other party. Never in prior Congress this had happened. It was a complete denial of due process. This impeachment were all done against the framework of the constitution, to subvert the rights of the president. The impeachment must be dismissed.

Merry Christmas America!
color=blue b Overall the impeachment is wrong. ... (show quote)


https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/lots-no-shows-impeachment-inquiry-depositions
https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/due-process/

Sensitive information? I do not agree the fact that every meeting of the Adam Schiff's committee was isolated in secret and denied the presence of the Republic committee.

That is not the only reason it could been held in closed door.

Overall the impeachment is wrong. Nothing to impeach. The president has the right to investigate any diplomatic involvement with foreign countries, under his power, especially when it involves material consideration and mutual diplomacy.

The house has the same responsibility if something is found wrong the house has to investigate.

No sound judgement could has been written in books neither practiced and decided in the Court of Law.

Inpeachment is not criminal case congress can't deal in criminal cases like you stated each branch has it own responsibility.

It was a complete denial of due process.
Criminal
By your statement it sounds like you are referring to the criminal due process
Due Process Law and Legal Definition. ... Due process requirements apply to both criminal and civil law. Due process generally requires fairness in government proceedings. A person is entitled to notice and opportunity to be heard at a hearing when they have life, liberty. or property at stake.

Inpeachment house rules page 23
Due process rights of respondents (p) The committee shall adopt rules
to provide that (1) not less than 10 calendar days before a scheduled v**e by an investigative subcommittee on a statement of alleged violation, the subcommittee shall provide the respondent with a copy of the statement of
alleged violation it intends to adopt together with all evidence it intends
to use to prove those charges which it intends to adopt, including docu-
mentary evidence, witness testimony, memoranda of witness interviews, and physical evidence, unless the subcommittee by an affirmative v**e of a majority of its members decides to withhold certain evidence in
order to protect a witness; but if such evidence is withheld, the sub-
committee shall inform the respondent that evidence is being withheld
and of the count to which such evidence relates

Ans. Republicans assigned in the committees did not participate because Adam Schiff did not allow them to.
As per Roll call
All 15
Adam Schiff California dem
Jim Jordan Ohio oversight ranking
Mark Meadows NC oversight GOP

Devin Nunes California 8
Elsie Stefanik New York 9
Michael McCaul Texas 7 Rep Foreign Affairs ranking
Eliot L. Engel New York 3 Dem chairman
Scott Perry Pennsylvania 13 Rep Foreign Affairs
Lee Zeldin New York 11 Rep Foreign Affairs
Elijah E. Cummings Maryland Too ill Dem oversight
Carolyn B. Maloney NY 7 Dem acting chair
18 never attended

In total, the transcripts show 14 Republicans and four Democrats did not participate.

The fact that more Republicans did not participate than Democrats is noteworthy because the GOP complained that all members weren’t allowed to attend the depositions, with some even storming the secure area where the proceedings were held in protest.
In addition to Crawford, the Republicans nonparticipants were: Oversight Reps. Paul Gosar of Arizona, Virginia Foxx of North Carolina, James Comer of Kentucky and Mark Green of Tennessee; and Foreign Affairs Reps. Christopher H. Smith of New Jersey, Steve Chabot of Ohio, Joe Wilson of South Carolina, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Jim Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, Ron Wright of Texas and Greg Pence of Indiana.

The only republican asked to leave was Matt Gaetz, Jordan stated that after 20 hours of testimony with only 12 present a 13th shouldn't be a problem.
The removal was finally completed after the ruling from the House parliamentarian. Gaetz agreed to leave the room. These depositions were held on Oct 3rd and 11th, the house was on reccess.
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Dec 18, 2019 07:21:25   #
Radiance3 wrote:
Notes: I have been saying this over and over, that the process of impeachment was not done right and unconstitutional. The president's constitutional rights have been violated by Adam Schiff and Pelosi.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/this-impeachment-subverts-the-constitution-115
72040762

WSJ By
David B. Rivkin Jr. and
Elizabeth Price Foley
Oct. 25, 2019 5:59 pm ET
Rep. Adam Schiff speaks beside Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Capitol Hill, Oct. 15, 2019.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi has directed committees investigating President Trump to “proceed under that umbrella of impeachment inquiry,” but the House has never authorized such an inquiry. Democrats have been seeking to impeach Mr. Trump since the party took control of the House, though it isn’t clear for what offense.

Lawmakers and commentators have suggested various possibilities, but none amount to an impeachable offense. The effort is akin to a constitutionally proscribed bill of attainder—a legislative effort to punish a disfavored person. The Senate should treat it accordingly.

The impeachment power is quasi-judicial and differs fundamentally from Congress’s legislative authority. The Constitution assigns “the sole power of impeachment” to the House—the full chamber, which acts by majority v**e, not by a press conference called by the Speaker.

Once the House begins an impeachment inquiry, it may refer the matter to a committee to gather evidence with the aid of subpoenas. Such a process ensures the House’s political accountability, which is the key check on the use of impeachment power.

*** Note the GOP party was not made to participate on this process., which was illegally conducted by Adam Schitt and Pelosi.

John Durham's Review of Russia and The FBI is Now a Criminal Probe
00:00 / 27:32

The House has followed this process every time it has tried to impeach a president. Andrew Johnson’s 1868 impeachment was predicated on formal House authorization, which passed 126-47. In 1974 the Judiciary Committee determined it needed authorization from the full House to begin an inquiry into Richard Nixon’s impeachment, which came by a 410-4 v**e. The House followed the same procedure with Bill Clinton in 1998, approving a resolution 258-176, after receiving independent counsel Kenneth Starr’s report.
Mrs. Pelosi discarded this process in favor of a Trump-specific procedure without precedent in Anglo-American law. Rep. Adam Schiff’s Intelligence Committee and several other panels are questioning witnesses in secret.

Mr. Schiff has defended this process by likening it to a grand jury considering whether to hand up an indictment. But while grand-jury secrecy is mandatory, House Democrats are selectively leaking information to the media, and House Republicans, who are part of the jury, are being denied subpoena authority and full access to transcripts of testimony and even impeachment-related committee documents. No grand jury has a second class of jurors excluded from full participation.

Unlike other impeachable officials, such as federal judges and executive-branch officers, the president and vice president are elected by, and accountable to, the people. The executive is also a coequal branch of government. Thus any attempt to remove the president by impeachment creates unique risks to democracy not present in any other impeachment context.

Adhering to constitutional text, tradition and basic procedural guarantees of fairness is critical. These processes are indispensable bulwarks against abuse of the impeachment power, designed to preserve the separation of powers by preventing Congress from improperly removing an elected president.

House Democrats have discarded the Constitution, tradition and basic fairness merely because they h**e Mr. Trump. Because the House has not properly begun impeachment proceedings, the president has no obligation to cooperate. The courts also should not enforce any purportedly impeachment-related document requests from the House. (A federal district judge held Friday that the Judiciary Committee is engaged in an impeachment inquiry and therefore must see grand-jury materials from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, but that ruling will likely be overturned on appeal.) And the House cannot cure this problem simply by v****g on articles of impeachment at the end of a flawed process.

The Senate’s power—and obligation—to “try all impeachments” presupposes that the House has followed a proper impeachment process and that it has assembled a reliable evidentiary basis to support its accusations. The House has conspicuously failed to do so. Fifty Republican senators have endorsed a resolution sponsored by Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham urging the House to “v**e to open a formal impeachment inquiry and provide President Trump with fundamental constitutional protections” before proceeding further.

If the House fails to heed this call immediately, the Senate would be fully justified in summarily rejecting articles produced by the Pelosi-Schiff inquiry on grounds that without a lawful impeachment in the House, it has no jurisdiction to proceed.

The effort has another problem: There is no evidence on the public record that Mr. Trump has committed an impeachable offense. The Constitution permits impeachment only for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” The Founders considered allowing impeachment on the broader grounds of “maladministration,” “neglect of duty” and “mal-practice,” but they rejected these reasons for fear of giving too much power to Congress.

The phrase “high crimes and misdemeanors” includes abuses of power that do not constitute violations of criminal statutes. But its scope is limited.
Abuse of power encompasses two distinct types of behavior. First, the president can abuse his power by purporting to exercise authority not given to him by the Constitution or properly delegated by Congress—say, by imposing a new tax without congressional approval or establishing a p**********l “court” to punish his opponents. Second, the president can abuse power by failing to carry out a constitutional duty—such as systematically refusing to enforce laws he disfavors. The president cannot legitimately be impeached for lawfully exercising his constitutional power.

Applying these standards to the behavior triggering current calls for impeachment, it is apparent that Mr. Trump has neither committed a crime nor abused his power.

One theory is that by asking Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Kyiv’s involvement in the 2016 U.S. p**********l e******n and potential corruption by Joe Biden and his son H****r was unlawful “interference with an e******n.” There is no such crime in the federal criminal code (the same is true of “collusion”). E******n-related offenses involve specific actions such as v****g by aliens, fraudulent v****g, buying v**es and interfering with access to the polls. None of these apply here.

Nor would asking Ukraine to investigate a political rival violate campaign-finance laws, because receiving information from Ukraine did not constitute a prohibited foreign contribution. The Mueller report noted that no court has ever concluded that information is a “thing of value,” and the Justice Department has concluded that it is not. Such an interpretation would raise serious First Amendment concerns.

Equally untenable is the argument that Mr. Trump committed bribery. Federal bribery statutes require proof of a corrupt intent in the form of a quid pro quo—defined by the Supreme Court in U.S. v. Sun-Diamond Growers (1999), as a “specific intent to give or receive something of value in exchange for an official act.” There was no quid pro quo in the call. Mr. Zelensky has said he felt no pressure, and the purported quid (military aid to Ukraine) was not contingent on the alleged quo (opening an investigation), because the former materialized within weeks, while the latter—not “something of value” in any case—never did.

More fundamentally, the Constitution gives the president plenary authority to conduct foreign affairs and diplomacy, including broad discretion over the timing and release of appropriated funds. Many presidents have refused to spend appropriated money for military or other purposes, on grounds that it was unnecessary, unwise or incompatible with their priorities.
i Notes: I have been saying this over and over, t... (show quote)


Agreed to a point the responsibility for foreign affairs is the president's. The inpeachment process is used to check the preformance of the individual. At which time if something is seen to be wrong then it is brought up. The main problem with the way it was written does allow it the chance to be used in the wrong way or time. Investigation is the house's area the trial is the senates.
According to reports the Republicans who were assigned to committes didn't
Participate.

The se******n below came from page 18 of the House Rules document that in 2015 Republicans v**ed a change to subpoena requirements. Pease note what is in parentheses. All meetings other than committee on Ethics are to be in the open. Since the impeachment is based on presumed ethical practices the meetings can be held in private. Then the other option for closed meeting is when the infomation that comes out may endanger national security, would compromise sensitive law enforcement information, would tend to defame, degrade, or incriminate any person, or otherwise would violate a law or rule of the House. How do you think B******i was investigated? it was behind closed doors also. How many times did the adminstration state that subpenoas didn't need to be responded to?


Open meetings and hearings
(g)(1) Each meeting for the t***saction of business, including the mark-
up of legislation, by a standing committee or subcommittee thereof (other
than the Committee on Ethics or its subcommittees) shall be open to the
public, including to radio, television, and still photography coverage, except
when the committee or subcommittee, in open session and with a majority
present, determines by record v**e that all or part of the remainder of the
meeting on that day shall be in executive session because disclosure of mat-
ters to be considered would endanger national security, would compromise
sensitive law enforcement information, would tend to defame, degrade, or in-
criminate any person, or otherwise would violate a law or rule of the
House. Persons, other than members of the committee and such noncommittee Members, Delegates, Resident Commis-
sioner, congressional staff, or departmental representatives as the com-
mittee may authorize, may not be present at a business or markup ses-
sion that is held in executive session. This subparagraph does not apply to
open committee hearings, which are governed by clause 4(a)(1) of rule X or
by subparagraph (2). (2)(A) Each hearing conducted by a committee or subcommittee (other than the Committee on Ethics or its
subcommittees) shall be open to the public, including to radio, television,
and still photography coverage, except when the committee or subcommittee, in open session and with a majority present, determines by record v**e that all or part of the remainder of that hearing on that day shall be closed to the public because disclosure sensitive law enforcement information, or would violate a clause
clause 2(k)(5); or
(ii) agree to close the hearing as
provided in clause 2(k)(5).
(C)
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Dec 11, 2019 06:54:21   #
PeterS wrote:
Why is it that conservatives think that every action taken by the Democrats is due to bias? You bashed Mueller because of bias and you bashed the impeachment because of bias. Well if bias is the driving force behind all political actions doesn't this apply equally to you conservatives? You can't go after Biden because you are biased. And of course, you can't go after Hillary because you are biased. You can't go after Horowitz because you are biased. You can't attack Comey, McCabe, or the FBI because you are biased.

Now my question to you conservatives is why can't you be biased and be objective at the same time? Why is it, the instant you see bias in someone you assume that their action is tainted and therefore unfair? Is it because you are biased and can't separate your political and ideological beliefs from each other? Shame, shame...
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The old saying you h**e in others ,what you h**e in yourself is still h*****g around. Not exactly but you get my meaning.
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Dec 8, 2019 10:50:48   #
JFlorio wrote:
I’m not sure Hunte Biden did anything criminal. Did he get a position because of his name? Hard to argue he didn’t. If anyone did anything criminal it’s Joe Biden admitting he interfered in a foreign countries investigation which could have had a negative affect on the company his son was a board member of.


According to the new prosecutors report H****r didn't do anything illegal.As far as Biden it was considered gunboat diplomacy, it proably wasn't the smartest statement made. It is reported that most of the western countries and a few of the European countries were concerned that the Ukraine as well as the company were considered corrupt since the investigation was started in 2012.
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