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May 19, 2024 22:33:58   #
AuH20 wrote:
https://reason.com/2024/05/17/world-war-war-iii-may-already-have-started-in-the-shadows/

World War War III May Already Have Started—in the Shadows
Cyber intrusions, arson, bombings, and other mayhem feature in the conflict between West and East.


J.D. Tuccille5.17.2024 7:00 AM

Britain's signals intelligence spy chief raised eyebrows this week with warnings that Russia is coordinating both cyberattacks and physical acts of sabotage against the West. There's evidence to back her claims—and the West may be returning the favor. Coming soon after FBI Director Christopher Wray warned that China is targeting American infrastructure, it looks like the world is not only fracturing once again, but that the hostile blocs are engaged in covert warfare.

Rumors of War

"We are increasingly concerned about growing links between the Russian intelligence services and proxy groups to conduct cyberattacks as well as suspected physical surveillance and sabotage operations," Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) Director Anne Keast-Butler told an audience at the United Kingdom government-sponsored CyberUK 2024 conference. "Before, Russia simply created the right environments for these groups to operate, but now they are nurturing and inspiring these non-state cyber actors in some cases seemingly coordinating physical attacks against the West."

Keast-Butler, whose agency is comparable to the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), also called out China, Iran, and North Korea as cybersecurity dangers. But naming Russian officials as being behind "physical attacks" raises the stakes. Sadly, her claims are well-founded.

Sabotage, Espionage, and Other Mischief

"A 20-year-old British man has been charged with masterminding an arson plot against a Ukrainian-linked target in London for the benefit of the Russian state," CBS News reported last month. That wasn't an isolated incident.

"In April alone a clutch of alleged pro-Russian saboteurs were detained across the continent," The Economist noted May 12 in describing what it called a "shadow war" between East and West. "Germany arrested two German-Russian dual nationals on suspicion of plotting attacks on American military facilities and other targets on behalf of the GRU, Russia's military intelligence agency. Poland arrested a man who was preparing to pass the GRU information on Rzeszow airport, the most important hub for military aid to Ukraine. Britain charged several men over an earlier arson attack in March on a Ukrainian-owned logistics firm in London whose Spanish depot was also targeted."

The GCHQ chief's warnings coupled with reality on the ground are alarming in themselves. Worse, they come after FBI Director Christopher Wray issued similar cautions in April about China.

"The PRC [People's Republic of China] has made it clear that it considers every sector that makes our society run as fair game in its bid to dominate on the world stage, and that its plan is to land low blows against civilian infrastructure to try to induce panic and break America's will to resist," Wray told the Vanderbilt Summit on Modern Conflict and Emerging Threats in Nashville, Tennessee.

Wray clarified that, by "infrastructure," he meant "everything from water treatment facilities and energy grids to t***sportation and information technology."

If that doesn't make you want to check that your pantry is stocked and that the water filter and generator are in working order, nothing will.

A Game Both Sides Can Play

Of course, in war of any sort, the implication is that both sides are involved in conflict. Western intelligence officials are loud in their warnings about foreign threats, but less open regarding just what their own operatives might be doing in Russia, China, and elsewhere. Still, there's evidence that this is hardly a one-sided war, shadowy though it may be.

In June 2022, The New York Times reported that Ukraine's defensive efforts relied heavily on "a stealthy network of commandos and spies rushing to provide weapons, intelligence and training." In addition to Americans, the story noted, "commandos from other NATO countries, including Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania, also have been working inside Ukraine."

American journalist and combat veteran Jack Murphy goes further, claiming the CIA, working through an allied spy service "is responsible for many of the unexplained explosions and other mishaps that have befallen the Russian military industrial complex." The targets include "railway bridges, fuel depots and power plants," he adds.

And if you wonder who blew up Nord Stream 1 and 2, well, so do a lot of people. Russia was initially accused, but it didn't make a lot of sense for the country's forces to destroy pipelines that generated revenue and fed western dependence on Russian natural gas. Since then, Denmark and Sweden have closed inconclusive investigations, journalist Seymour Hersh blamed American officials, and a report by Der Spiegel and The Washington Post placed responsibility on a rogue Ukrainian military officer.

The Wider War Is Here

Taken all together, the warnings from Keast-Butler and Wray, as well as acts of sabotage and arrests of foreign agents suggest that fears of a wider war resulting from Russia's continuing invasion of Ukraine may miss the point; the war could already be here. People looking for tanks and troops are overlooking cyber intrusions, arson, bombings, and other low-level mayhem.

"Russia is definitely at war with the West," Oleksandr Danylyuk of the Royal United Services Institute, a British defense and security think tank, told NBC News earlier this week.

Russian officials seem to embrace that understanding, with Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov commenting in March that the invasion of Ukraine, originally referred to by the euphemism "special military operation," is now more serious. "It has become a war for us as the collective West more and more directly increases its level of involvement in the conflict," he said.

Fortunately, a shadow war of the sort around us is less destructive than open military conflict, especially when the hostilities involve nuclear-armed powers. It's far better that spies hack the email accounts of government officials, as happened in the case of a Russian cyberattack on Germany's ruling Social Democrats, than that cities burn. But civilians still must live with the consequences of combatants attempting to do each other harm—particularly when the harm is to infrastructure on which regular people rely.

So, welcome to the world of global shadow war. Try to not become collateral damage.

Although Russia is an obvious concern, the failure of so many to ignore China shows a complete lack of understanding of their goals. Many have the very very very mistaken thought that Xi having a friendly facial expression makes him more benign than is Putin with his fierce expression. If you fail to understand China is following the long path tradition, you are beyond using any mental capacity you may have.
https://reason.com/2024/05/17/world-war-war-iii-ma... (show quote)


***Britain's signals intelligence spy chief raised eyebrows this week with warnings that Russia is coordinating both cyberattacks and physical acts of sabotage against the West.
>>>Meanwhile, the West led by America and Britain are coordinating both cyberattacks and physical acts of sabotage against Russia as usual. Yes, WWIII may be already started and the West and NATO started it.
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May 19, 2024 22:29:24   #
Airforceone wrote:
I think you MAGA morons heard it straight from the fat piece of garbage mouth
(I AM AFRAID TO TESTIFY) no s**t fat ass everybody knows you lied when you said I can’t wait to testify. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂fat as Trump is a joke and his i***t supporters are no different. What is it with you people are you really that ignorant


***I think you MAGA morons heard it straight from the fat piece of garbage mouth
>>>The only fat piece of garbage mouth I know of is, well, "what did you say."


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May 19, 2024 22:27:13   #
When it comes to brains and antegrity, the NFL means Not Freakin' Likely
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May 19, 2024 22:15:42   #
Ri-chard wrote:
Yes, the owners are disabled but not their workers. For over 15 years I represented SDVOSB at AFCEA and chose them because No#1 I am a Vet and they are basically risk free for giving me a black eye due to any poor performance. Regerminated with built in team work.

The government should have the Vets at the top of the list. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN12313
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN12313


I'm with you on Vets. I'm one. Spent a few hours in the emergency room of a Vet hospital earlier today.
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May 19, 2024 22:12:17   #
pegw wrote:
I heard as soon as Trump spoke, people started to leave the arena in large numbers. I wonder why? Was Trump going off in rants? Was he playing the victim? Was he incoherent?


He could loose half his crowd in a small room and still have 10 times more real fans then biden in a huge stadium.
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May 19, 2024 22:08:59   #
jimpack123 wrote:
None can be worse than Trump


***None can be worse than Trump
>>>It would take a real blind i***t to really believe that, with biden as such a perfect example of being worse then Trump on every issue
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May 19, 2024 22:04:27   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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[ I] Too late! Deport the 15 million now! After he brought in 15 million illegal invaders, mostly Muslim terrorists, Hispanic convicts and Drug dealers, Chinese, and Hamas terrorists and supporters, C*******ts, Hispanic rapists, Hispanic human traffickers, Hispanic and African handouts.

These are Biden's plans to weaponize against the American people to k**l them and bankrupt them.

Biden just naturalized 100,000 of them to v**e for him in the Nov. 2024 e******n.

These payments out of our money the 34 million students loan will make him win the e******n in Nov. 2024. These are all in violations of Congress and the SC Court. But he acts like a Dictator ignoring Congress and the Supreme Court.

Biden has paid out of our taxes $138 billion to 4.3 million students to v**e for him in Nov. 2024 e******n.

Biden has planned 30 million students to pay off their loan within the next 3 years.

These are all lures for Biden so that these people will v**e for him in Nov. 2024.

Then he will win again through fraud and c***ting. He has no right to pay off students' loan, but he violates all the time. SC did not approve him paying off students' loan, but Biden ignores all of the including Congress.

Biden is a stupid crook, and fraudulent man to stay in power. He has not totally destroyed our country.

Pretending now to lower inflation and close border. It is too late. The enemies are already inside. These will be his v**ers.

But he is a crook and an i***t. He has someone dictating to him how to further destroy this country, so they have the complete power to Marxism. [/i]
================ br I Too late! Deport the 15 m... (show quote)


***Pretending now to lower inflation and close border. It is too late. The enemies are already inside. These will be his v**ers.
>>>Remember the old expression about locking the barn door after the jackass is out. He's out and loose. And they got the jackass into the presidency through absolute massive fraud.
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May 19, 2024 22:00:50   #
dbirch wrote:
aren't we tired of being ruled by EO's yet?
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Executive orders should always have a limit, set by Congress. Say 2 months. If not confirmed by Congress they should be automatically reversed and not allowed a redo.
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May 19, 2024 21:59:22   #
Weasel wrote:
This entire biden administration is the worst group of political hacks to ever settle in Washington DC. They sit around all day throwing spaghetti at the walls, watching to see what sticks! 👀


And unfortunately it as always that gray haired meatball.
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May 19, 2024 21:58:01   #
tomhoff24 wrote:
Not only the left,the NFL released a statement not agreeing with his views.


He didn't speak as a football player. He spoke as a Catholic. It is none of their freakin' business what he said.
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May 19, 2024 21:44:35   #
pegw wrote:
President Biden has been a non r****t for a long time. One of his long term friends is a former gang member named Mouse, who Biden meet when he was a lifeguard. Biden still has him as a friend and adviser. Also Biden's appointments are a mixed bag of all the different races and ethnics that make up America. One of Biden's big mistakes was preventing women who had been abused by Justice Thomas not to have the opportunity to testify against him when he was being considered for his supreme court case.
Trump, on the other hand, only nominated a single African American to his cabinet and one other person in his administration that I know of. Trump likes white men in blue suits. The Republicans have tried to undo the gains African Americans have made from civil rights actions. I can't see non white people flocking to Trump. His record is that poor.
President Biden has been a non r****t for a long t... (show quote)


Peg again blows it
***President Biden has been a non r****t for a long time.
>>>How long? Since his great friend in the KKK died? He always was a racisst and he always will be a r****t who uses b****s for v**es and nothing else.

***One of his long term friends is a former gang member named Mouse
>>>Is his first name Mickey?

When are you i***t l*****ts going to realize that it is not the color or race of religion of the candidate, but the character and knowledge and integrity, and if they know the definition of what a woman is.
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May 19, 2024 21:34:11   #
Ranger7374 wrote:
Damn one headline reads "Claws out!" Damn cat fight at the capitol.


Sounds more like a *unt Clash
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May 19, 2024 21:12:27   #
TJKMO wrote:
https://action.lincolnproject.us/diaper_ad

For all MAGA.
It is a MUST for your next TREASONOUS ACT.


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May 19, 2024 20:47:29   #
TJKMO wrote:
Asked about criticism from “conservative bishops” in the US who have opposed Francis’ more progressive papacy and efforts to reform the Catholic Church, the Pope paused on the word “conservative,” saying a conservative is “one who clings to something and does not want to see beyond that. It is a suicidal attitude.”


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May 17, 2024 19:43:15   #
Ri-chard wrote:
The C***D "social distancing" demand – spewed out by government officials during the p******c – marked out 6-foot intervals on store floors for people to wait in line, and kept school children home.

But where did the concept of six-foot "social distancing" come from? The answer is staggering. ...

It was, according to a report at The Federalist, perpetrated by former National Institutes of Health chief Francis "Collins and crew, including the smug and self-righteous Dr. Anthony F***i, the immunologist who ran the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for a dangerously long time, made a very good living segregating a society at an unprecedented level. The damage done from the scientists’ sign-off on a long and cruel isolation experiment will take a long time to fully measure."

But the whole idea of a "distancing" was based on … no science.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/05/17/c***d-expert-francis-collins-finally-admits-there-was-no-science-for-six-foot-social-distancing/
The C***D "social distancing" demand – s... (show quote)


In other words some AH made a stupid guess and then a proclamation and then tried to justify the science instead of examining the science and making a calculated rule based on the science. Like all of the other bull schitte surrounding that phony p******c shut down.
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