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Tasine Loc: Southwest US

I think their searches were necessary and good. I think their not obtaining warrants for the searches was a serious blunder, and could have easily gotten some of them killed.

However, I see this all the time - all of us do. We see the person in charge of a tragedy try to stop the tragedy from getting worse, and no matter how it turns out, the person trying to do something gets his tail in a wringer, and I HATE armchair generals, so I will not fault the authorities this time. They did a good job. I'd rather they had gotten warrants so that they were working under the Constitution, but I will NOT castigate them for not doing so.....unless it becomes a habit.

cold iron Loc: White House

It has and is a habit. Just look at Katrina, they went house to house looking for fire arms and taking them from law abiding people. Shades of Nazi's. There is not provision in the constitution that makes it legal with out a warrant. The left call our constitution "negtive law" for it stops them from doing things they want to do, like search your house or your car. Like our founders said "power corrupts,total power corrupts totally" .

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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What the left cannot bring itself to accept is that the Constitution was written for the citizens' protection, NOT for the government's playground. The left is totally about control. It has no true philosophy, no true ideals, no true emotional attachments. The left is pathologically sociopathic and is not acquainted with normal behavior. They have to "fake" normal behaviors and PROJECT their own abnormalities onto normal people to make themselves feel good about their awareness of their own foibles.

Absolutely YES, Constitutionally, a warrant was needed, but as no harm came, let's applaud the capture of the bad actors, and be grateful instead of angry. Next, time, though, it should be warrants or no entry into any home or business without invitation.

cold iron Loc: White House

After studing the actions of the left for 40 years, I have come to conclude they have no soul, they lie, cheat, steal and are morally bankrupt, hypocrite's

stevano

When is the one, most important time if you had lived in New Orleans you would have wanted your guns? Yet, during the floods of Katrina the police were going door to door to confiscate law abiding citizens guns. Maybe you need to keep a clunker around to "give up?"

Video on gun confiscation after Katrina: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

Edit: added title to youtube vid.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

You say "next time" and I worry that the next time it will be easier for them and then the time after that and so on. We have to raise lots of hell right now about this first time, other than the fact that this first time wasn't the first time. I also remember Katrina and am not sure it was the first time.

Navysnipe Loc: Old West

Therein lies the problem. We all know damn well that this will become a habit. They wanted to know ahead of time how well this would go, and now that they know, we will be seeing a lot more of it. We are being set up for something far worse.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I will send you a story I got on e-mail this morning that takes too much space for this form. Yes, I do think we will see a lot more of this kind of thing, but according to that e-mail it may well come from devout Muslims that are among us seemingly as real people not telling us about their activities. For instance, two women who were buying up all the cell phones in an area of California.

Navysnipe Loc: Old West

Watch your back. They have an agenda, and we are in their sights.

http://intellihub.com/2013/04/28/dhs-training-video-depicts-gun-owners-as-militia-members-planning-terrorism/

willy7

Their chief method is take a little here, a dab there, until we have it. We need to remember the frog is put into cold water and won't (can't) get out when the water boils.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Yep, we are their definition of terrorists. I wonder just what they would identify the Boston bombers as. I keep looking for them to come to my door although they have never been in this tiny town in Kansas. I have talked about finally buying guns so surely they will manage to make me part of a terrorist militia group.

In their sights, I agree wit4h that. I wonder if I will have to shoot at any of the local police who I know. I sure hope not, especially since the Sheriff is a part of one of the most heavily armed families I know of.

JimYardley

"No harm came"? I can't agree with that view. Harm was visited on this nation. If the power hungry get away with one excess, more will follow.

The Constitution was NOT drafted by some noble elitists to protect Americans. It is a document that clearly states that the governing of Americans is limited, since back in the day, the founders (and not just the founders) knew from personal experience with George III that uncontrolled power is power that will destroy everything it touches. Those in the Constitutional Convention could only write a draft. The individual state legislatures had to approve it, and they did so only after adding the Bill of Rights, to limit the government's power even more.

Think about the first few words of the Constitution: "We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union ..... ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." Clearly, the people of this nation defined the government and what it was allowed to do. Anything that the government does which is not clearly defined in that Constitution it is not allowed to do. Kind of a simple concept, right?

But lawyers (and that includes every judge) try to stretch and twist and manipulate the Constitution to take those handcuffs off the government.

Our kids and grandkids must be able to read the original document in that context, and understand that unless they want to live a serfs, slaves, the peasants under Louis XIV or the kulaks in czarist Russia, they have to dedicate themselves to fighting the insidious rot that is infecting our country before it is gone forever.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Jim, in the early days of our Republic you would have been called a strict constructionist, as would I. I have always wanted the things the government could do controlled by the words of the Constitution and not by the way courts and lawyers stretched it around. Think how many of our rights have been taken away by the way the courts allowed the Congress to s-t-r-e-t-c-h the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.

Yes, my sons will either be dead from not accepting all this crap or will have to suffer slavery and I don't think either of them intends to accept that kind of life.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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I know you are right, and I think the same thing. It's just that we've been carping for years and nothing changes except it gets worse. I'm sick of the carping. I don't believe a single thing will improve until we resort to some action. Now, if a person whose home was invaded, had resisted and shot one of the cops, the shooter would be in jail, charged with 1-5 major crimes, we would be carping - and the shooter would still be in trouble and we would continue to carp, the shooter would waste away in jail, and NOTHING WOULD CHANGE. We would continue to carp....and carp......and carp.....the next one MAY choose to shoot, but I'll bet not, but if he did, he'd be treated just like the previous one was......and we'd carp.....and carp......and carp. We all talk as though we will EVENTUALLY BE PUSHED TO THE WALL AND THEN WE WILL ACT! I don't think that will happen. I think we have passed the point when action would work positively for us. So........the next and best thing will be, I think, to beat them at their own game. Usually republicans don't want to stoop to the left's low level. I think the time has come to stoop rather than bend over! But who in his right mind wants to stoop the left's level of depravity? And SHOULD we? OF COURSE WE SHOULDN'T, but remember that we have lost our window of opportunity to win this thing properly, without violence and without throwing our principles to the wind. If someone has a recourse, I'd like to hear it. But I'm still tired of carping with no strength behind the words. If we sound empty, it is because we ARE empty.