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May 27, 2015 02:59:20   #
fiatlux
 
iFrank wrote:
The Left, Right and the other. That's the way it's gonna stay because truth is shrinking from the minds of the American People ready to believe anything as long as there's a "greasy" palm high five. The "thrashing floor" mill is showing through for the one's who can see and not blind. Reading between the lines with decernment will reveal that truth that people dislike. The elected politicians have repeatedly shown us that with "dealing" and "pork" We The People come out short because of the beaucracy of getting jobs through favoritism and cronyism. That's the overhead shadow that the debt is getting beyond control. We will need a POTUS that will negotiate a debt relief on the U.S. as we do with other nation but that is probably not going to happen because we will have to get tough on leaving debt after voted person goes out of public seat. Vote "taxed enough already" to make it happen, Suck it up because if the socialist minded win this coming election its the "nails" for the coffin of our "democratic" nation. What a great country it was.
The Left, Right and the other. That's the way it's... (show quote)


Fear of the socialists is a ploy of the elite: do not fall for it!

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May 27, 2015 03:01:14   #
fiatlux
 
lpnmajor wrote:
That's why I've always been non partisan. I refuse to be called "independent" because that's a term coined, by both Democrats and Republicans, to denote anyone "not dem, not repub" as though all political identities generate from those two party's exclusively. BTW, that's also why no "independent" is allowed to debate with 'the big boys" ( exception - Ross Perot, he bought his way in ). Both dems and repubs threaten to pull all campaign ad revenue from any network that attempts to allow independents in - and - refuse to participate.

Dems and repubs have been cooperating for years and years, to convince folk that a vote for an independent is "wasting your vote" - because ONLY a dem or repub will gain office. That's a complete fabrication, but it's stuck in most folks heads. The fact is, EVERY vote counts, no matter who or what party one votes for. For instance, let's say that 49% vote Dem and 51% vote repub. The repub wins, so did the other 49% waste THEIR vote? If it were a horse race, then yeah, they wasted their vote because they didn't win - but - it's NOT a horse race, in fact it's not a race at all - so why do we call it a "race"?

At any rate, until folks decide that personal beliefs, values and hopes are more important than "party", we'll not see any change in our countries' direction. We have allowed politicians to contaminate our thinking with the concepts of "winning is everything" and " it's all or nothing" - because that thinking benefits THEM - not us. When the majority rejects partisan game playing, refuses to be drawn into political shenanigans and starts demanding REAL candidates ( not the made for TV, scripted, coached and handled candidate ) - we'll see an immediate difference in how this country is run. We'll see elected officials who actually represent their constituents wishes - not the party bosses - or their financial backers.
That's why I've always been non partisan. I refuse... (show quote)


Excellent points. Thank you.

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May 27, 2015 03:03:52   #
fiatlux
 
motive power wrote:
A consensus with someone that tells me gays should have all the rights or more than a typical man and wife. Someone who tells me to work hard and then takes so much of what I earn that my family lives on less then the welfare bunch gets. Then tells me to give up all my hollidays because they upset a muslim that tells to convert or die. Tells me after having family members killed in 4 wars [ myself also almost 2 times ] not to wave or show the flag of my country as it will make someone mad. The list could go on for pages but this shows why a consensus is not going to happen. :roll: :roll:
A consensus with someone that tells me gays should... (show quote)


Do not listen to Rush or Fox News: everything you mentioned is there concocted tempest in a tea pot. And thank you for your service.

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May 27, 2015 03:06:20   #
fiatlux
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
There is very little difference between today's Democrats and Rino's.


True.

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May 27, 2015 03:07:24   #
fiatlux
 
astrolite wrote:
The libs like the word consensus, To them it means: as they are all liberals and agree with the liberal agenda, they couldn't be otherwise, they have consensus. "The Un Global Warming Committee Has Consensus" see? They SAY or at least INFER that everybody AGREES! When it means only THEY agree.....NEWSPEAK.


Some truth to that, astro.

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May 27, 2015 03:11:11   #
fiatlux
 
okie don wrote:
Yeah,
I believe it was Cleveland Ohio that had zero votes for the Repub candidate, which is an impossibility.
What a 'stacked deck' we have now politically.


Not impossible. It actually happened in a few districts, such as in Philie, where Romney got zero votes.

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May 27, 2015 04:03:21   #
funguy1949
 
fiatlux wrote:
Do not listen to Rush or Fox News: everything you mentioned is there concocted tempest in a tea pot. And thank you for your service.




Sounds like you been brainwashed by Tom Heartman an the rest of them libertards.

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May 27, 2015 09:41:03   #
motive power
 
fiatlux wrote:
Do not listen to Rush or Fox News: everything you mentioned is there concocted tempest in a tea pot. And thank you for your service.


I never listen to Rush as he is the other side of the coin from the far left. That means a lot of what he has to say is wrong just like the far lefts bunchs BS. Fox is fair in thier reporting around 90% of the time while many other sites tied to the left seldom ever tell the truth all the way. Half truths and let us put a spin on it can be had at 80% of the liberal news agencies all the time. Any time a news anchor looks me in the eye and tells me Hillary Clinton is pure as fresh snow, I need to change my news source fast.

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May 27, 2015 10:14:21   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
funguy1949 wrote:
Sounds like you been brainwashed by Tom Heartman an the rest of them libertards.
You're not so fun. Who the hell is Tom Heartman?

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May 27, 2015 12:15:51   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
You're not so fun. Who the hell is Tom Heartman?


I think he like a mushroom, he just doesn't know how to spell.

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May 27, 2015 14:25:20   #
funguy1949
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
You're not so fun. Who the hell is Tom Heartman?






He's the a liberal radio host just like Rush is. I'm sorry I may have Tom's last name spelled wrong. Tom tells everything as a lie on the other hand Rush get's his info 2nd hand.both are wrong with their info.

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May 27, 2015 14:58:49   #
motive power
 
funguy1949 wrote:
He's the a liberal radio host just like Rush is. I'm sorry I may have Tom's last name spelled wrong. Tom tells everything as a lie on the other hand Rush get's his info 2nd hand.both are wrong with their info.


Now that OPP has become politically correct and is no longer a completely open vinue where both sides have access to use all the words that correspond to the words used by the other side. I here by wish one and all the best. I tell you it was fun and informative and I found some very fine people here on OPP. My only question is how can any sort of settlement of the nation's problems be reached when political correctness and government intervention stop people from even putting a name to the problem? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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May 28, 2015 00:38:43   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
funguy1949 wrote:
He's the a liberal radio host just like Rush is. I'm sorry I may have Tom's last name spelled wrong. Tom tells everything as a lie on the other hand Rush get's his info 2nd hand.both are wrong with their info.
Hell I had no idea the liberals had their own wack job. I'll have to remember that. Might be entertaining.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 28, 2015 01:11:29   #
Comment Loc: California
 
lpnmajor wrote:
That's why I've always been non partisan. I refuse to be called "independent" because that's a term coined, by both Democrats and Republicans, to denote anyone "not dem, not repub" as though all political identities generate from those two party's exclusively. BTW, that's also why no "independent" is allowed to debate with 'the big boys" ( exception - Ross Perot, he bought his way in ). Both dems and repubs threaten to pull all campaign ad revenue from any network that attempts to allow independents in - and - refuse to participate.

Dems and repubs have been cooperating for years and years, to convince folk that a vote for an independent is "wasting your vote" - because ONLY a dem or repub will gain office. That's a complete fabrication, but it's stuck in most folks heads. The fact is, EVERY vote counts, no matter who or what party one votes for. For instance, let's say that 49% vote Dem and 51% vote repub. The repub wins, so did the other 49% waste THEIR vote? If it were a horse race, then yeah, they wasted their vote because they didn't win - but - it's NOT a horse race, in fact it's not a race at all - so why do we call it a "race"?

At any rate, until folks decide that personal beliefs, values and hopes are more important than "party", we'll not see any change in our countries' direction. We have allowed politicians to contaminate our thinking with the concepts of "winning is everything" and " it's all or nothing" - because that thinking benefits THEM - not us. When the majority rejects partisan game playing, refuses to be drawn into political shenanigans and starts demanding REAL candidates ( not the made for TV, scripted, coached and handled candidate ) - we'll see an immediate difference in how this country is run. We'll see elected officials who actually represent their constituents wishes - not the party bosses - or their financial backers.
That's why I've always been non partisan. I refuse... (show quote)


I think you have spoken a lot of truth in here. Thanks.

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May 28, 2015 14:02:17   #
funguy1949
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Hell I had no idea the liberals had their own wack job. I'll have to remember that. Might be entertaining.

:thumbup: :thumbup:



yep he's on am radio at 6 pm till around 9 pm an if you think Rush is wacked he's 1000 times more he lie's out of both holes.
example :True conservatives are against abortion and liberals was for it always has been this way,till this nut job came along. Well not any more according to him,it's the opposite,also minimal wage was started way back in the early 60's at 10.95 an hour,Hell way back then no one knew anything about minimal wage.He blames everything on conservatives,no mater what is wrong.Just like all libertards ideology.DEAF/DUMB/BLIND.
He's even for drug addicts who recieve welfare,if welfare is taken away from them an if they have kid's then the kid's will do without,Hell the kid's do without any way an addict will use every penny he get's for his addiction.So tell me what's wrong with this picture of TOM

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