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May 22, 2015 19:54:46   #
son of witless
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Well, to have such an authoritative knowledge about the "gay mafia" means you must be part of it. Never heard it until I visited this site. Maybe there are just a lot of gay people that want their rights, since they pay taxes?


They want ' extra ' rights. They have exactly the same rights as straight people. Straight people can only marry those of the opposite sex. So gays already have the exact same rights as normals. Do straight people go into gay businesses and intentionally put them out of business?

Do straight people fake studies about gay marriage?

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May 22, 2015 20:05:21   #
Al-ien
 
boofhead wrote:
It may be that you asked this question ironically and do not believe what you said. In this case I apologize for my tone.

Marriage has been denigrated, reduced to a mere piece of paper. I am married and I consider that my marriage certificate is now worthless.

Let's say that in order to earn a university degree you need to go to a bricks and mortar establishment for 4 years, study the subject, take quizzes and a formal examination to be awarded the degree. You and many others did this and are proud to put that degree up on your wall for all to see. It has a value.

Now the ignorant among us decide this is too restricting, discriminatory and has to change. They force the government to take over the issuance of degrees and reduce the requirements so that now someone can get a degree by life experience and work experience, never attend the actual university, do it all online and have no way for the university to determine if that person actually did the work, but so long as he passes the required tests he gets a degree.

And let's assume that this person then applies for a job using the degree as a qualification.

The lazy guy is happy he has a degree and expects it to give him all the benefits of the more formal one. What do you think the first guy thinks? Does it devalue his degree? Is his piece of paper now better than it was? or is it now just a piece of paper with little or no value?

Marriage was a religious event, it had a biblical meaning and was precious to most people who entered into it. In many cases it did not need to be written down or recorded, it was a covenant between the couple and their god. In our more modern times we wanted to regulate marriage, control it, make money off it and of course we did this, forcing people who wanted to have their marriage recognized to apply for a marriage certificate, issued by the government.

Then it was decided to allow marriage to take place outside of the church, and people could get a marriage certificate without any religious participation or contact. I am sure that you would not see any difference and in general most people accepted that.

So now the queers want to get into the act, and they are going all out for equality but instead of going for just the civil certificate, they want the whole pie. They want the religious paper too, never mind that any church that had not lost its soul would deny them such a sacrilege. Any person who thinks this is wrong (and I not only think it wrong I think it is a filthy perversion of the sacrament of marriage) is railed against, attacked, taken to court, forced into bankruptcy maybe, businesses destroyed and lives ruined.

But you think this is OK and so long as you are not personally affected you can sit back and laugh.

You are an enabler and share culpability with the sin that is ongoing. A moral sin and a religious sin and one that will result in the value of marriage, the stability marriage offers, the propagation of family values, the good it does to family life and the protections and guidance of the children all going down the tubes, into the filthy Democrat swamp where you might be happy to wallow but I, Sir, am most definitely not.

I oppose your moral filth and that of the queers amongst us with all my being and I am definitely affected by what I see happening around me and I despair for my kids and grandkids.
It may be that you asked this question ironically ... (show quote)


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These buffoons want equality, well we want equality too. I want to be able to adopt one of their kid,s. What did you say, they can't give you any? Than how can we be equal? They want to adopt our kid's but we have no recourse. You see that's why there is marriage and than there is a union. In a marriage you can procreat in a union you can't. Now let them tell us how we can be equal.

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May 22, 2015 21:01:48   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
son of witless wrote:
They want ' extra ' rights. They have exactly the same rights as straight people. Straight people can only marry those of the opposite sex. So gays already have the exact same rights as normals. Do straight people go into gay businesses and intentionally put them out of business?

Do straight people fake studies about gay marriage?


Could you explain the extra rights they want? Maybe they just want the rights that you enjoy?

Do gay people make fake studies about straight marriage?

Do gay people advertise that they are a gay business?

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May 22, 2015 21:11:33   #
Anigav6969
 
boofhead wrote:
It may be that you asked this question ironically and do not believe what you said. In this case I apologize for my tone.

Marriage has been denigrated, reduced to a mere piece of paper. I am married and I consider that my marriage certificate is now worthless.

Let's say that in order to earn a university degree you need to go to a bricks and mortar establishment for 4 years, study the subject, take quizzes and a formal examination to be awarded the degree. You and many others did this and are proud to put that degree up on your wall for all to see. It has a value.

Now the ignorant among us decide this is too restricting, discriminatory and has to change. They force the government to take over the issuance of degrees and reduce the requirements so that now someone can get a degree by life experience and work experience, never attend the actual university, do it all online and have no way for the university to determine if that person actually did the work, but so long as he passes the required tests he gets a degree.

And let's assume that this person then applies for a job using the degree as a qualification.

The lazy guy is happy he has a degree and expects it to give him all the benefits of the more formal one. What do you think the first guy thinks? Does it devalue his degree? Is his piece of paper now better than it was? or is it now just a piece of paper with little or no value?

Marriage was a religious event, it had a biblical meaning and was precious to most people who entered into it. In many cases it did not need to be written down or recorded, it was a covenant between the couple and their god. In our more modern times we wanted to regulate marriage, control it, make money off it and of course we did this, forcing people who wanted to have their marriage recognized to apply for a marriage certificate, issued by the government.

Then it was decided to allow marriage to take place outside of the church, and people could get a marriage certificate without any religious participation or contact. I am sure that you would not see any difference and in general most people accepted that.

So now the queers want to get into the act, and they are going all out for equality but instead of going for just the civil certificate, they want the whole pie. They want the religious paper too, never mind that any church that had not lost its soul would deny them such a sacrilege. Any person who thinks this is wrong (and I not only think it wrong I think it is a filthy perversion of the sacrament of marriage) is railed against, attacked, taken to court, forced into bankruptcy maybe, businesses destroyed and lives ruined.

But you think this is OK and so long as you are not personally affected you can sit back and laugh.

You are an enabler and share culpability with the sin that is ongoing. A moral sin and a religious sin and one that will result in the value of marriage, the stability marriage offers, the propagation of family values, the good it does to family life and the protections and guidance of the children all going down the tubes, into the filthy Democrat swamp where you might be happy to wallow but I, Sir, am most definitely not.

I oppose your moral filth and that of the queers amongst us with all my being and I am definitely affected by what I see happening around me and I despair for my kids and grandkids.
It may be that you asked this question ironically ... (show quote)


Sounds like it's affected you because it's totally self inflicted.....your life should not change whatsoever by two gay people getting married somewhere in your state...that just makes no sense.....you look at your marriage certificate as worthless ?? That's on you...don't blame anyone else

And marriage does not have to be a religious ceremony....millions get married by a judge, legally, with no religion involved..

You have your religious beliefs....fine....but gay people are getting legally married...more will get married...and a it will be legal in more states and eventually the entire nation....you can be angry over it.....it's happening anyway

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May 22, 2015 21:31:40   #
JOY IN TUCSON
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Maybe you need to get out a little more...most people age 40 and under just don't care about this issue...amongst millenniums, the number is even higher...it's inevitable


I QUESTION WHO TOOK THE POLL.....No way can that be correct, when only 1-3% of the nation is homosexual.
But I guess when something is crammed down your throat..(no pun intended) you start to pull your hair out and say 'if it doesn't directly effect ME.....')
But I feel now it is...because something is being FORCED ON SOCIETY...that is against nature...
Peoples rectums are to EXPEL WASTE...Not to be a depository...

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May 22, 2015 21:39:20   #
JOY IN TUCSON
 
son of witless wrote:
They want ' extra ' rights. They have exactly the same rights as straight people. Straight people can only marry those of the opposite sex. So gays already have the exact same rights as normals. Do straight people go into gay businesses and intentionally put them out of business?

Do straight people fake studies about gay marriage?


I know it is a popular word to use..GAY...but I refuse to exploit a very nice word with homosexuality.
There is NOTHING in a relationship against nature that should promote such a use of the word...
Queer was more appropriate because it denotes 'difference.'

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May 22, 2015 22:01:37   #
son of witless
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Could you explain the extra rights they want? Maybe they just want the rights that you enjoy?

Do gay people make fake studies about straight marriage?

Do gay people advertise that they are a gay business?


My mistake. I was confidant that I was absolutely clear, but I see I was mistaken. Gay folks are allowed to marry the opposite gender. That is exactly what straight folks can do. Straights cannot marry the same sex. The rights are the same. To allow same sex marriage is to create a new right.

I have no idea if gays fake straight marriage studies. I don't know if gay businesses advertize. their business preferences.

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May 22, 2015 22:09:18   #
boofhead
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Sounds like it's affected you because it's totally self inflicted.....your life should not change whatsoever by two gay people getting married somewhere in your state...that just makes no sense.....you look at your marriage certificate as worthless ?? That's on you...don't blame anyone else

And marriage does not have to be a religious ceremony....millions get married by a judge, legally, with no religion involved..

You have your religious beliefs....fine....but gay people are getting legally married...more will get married...and a it will be legal in more states and eventually the entire nation....you can be angry over it.....it's happening anyway
Sounds like it's affected you because it's totally... (show quote)


You obviously cannot read very well. I told you how I felt and you don't get it. I am not a religious person, I am a moral person. Letting queers get married makes the certificate of marriage lose value. If you don't have to be one man and one woman any longer to get married then what use is the certificate? I did not get married knowing that any idiot and his dog could do the same, I got married because the marriage had meaning and recognized a situation between me and my wife that historically and legally was a pillar of society and part of the bedrock of civilization as well as having the blessing of the church. Now it is meaningless because it no longer means anything. What part of that do you not understand? Are you truly that obtuse and brainwashed that you cannot see truth and logic?

What if instead of the marriage certificate we were talking about a banknote? What if someone said it was OK to photo copy some $100 bills and they were so close in appearance that they fooled you to take one in payment for something you did for them or sold? If you could not trust the note any longer what value is it? What value any $100 bill if it could be just as easily a forgery?

Or title to a car? Or your house? You would surely start bouncing around and peeing your pants then, wouldn't you?

Where do we draw the line? As a democrat all you care about is yourself first and politics second. To hell with the country or the citizens to hell with your kids or grandkids. To hell with people who you don't know or people who don't bow down to the greatest imposter of all time in the White House.

And here's another one for you; what if it was possible to forge a birth certificate claiming your were born in the USA and using that certificate, just as bogus as a marriage certificate issued to two fags, to become the President of the USA?

Would you still claim that it was "on me" and not really a problem?

You Democrats are really something else. Do they give babies who grow up to be Democrats something in their formula to make them that utterly stupid and amoral?

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May 22, 2015 23:20:00   #
Anigav6969
 
JOY IN TUCSON wrote:
I QUESTION WHO TOOK THE POLL.....No way can that be correct, when only 1-3% of the nation is homosexual.
But I guess when something is crammed down your throat..(no pun intended) you start to pull your hair out and say 'if it doesn't directly effect ME.....')
But I feel now it is...because something is being FORCED ON SOCIETY...that is against nature...
Peoples rectums are to EXPEL WASTE...Not to be a depository...


Heterosexuals have anal sex...do you want there to be a sex police to make sure people are doing it correctly? .....what you are not realizing is that young people truly don't see same sex marriage as a threat in any way...it's happening...whether some people like it or not

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May 22, 2015 23:26:17   #
Anigav6969
 
boofhead wrote:
You obviously cannot read very well. I told you how I felt and you don't get it. I am not a religious person, I am a moral person. Letting queers get married makes the certificate of marriage lose value. If you don't have to be one man and one woman any longer to get married then what use is the certificate? I did not get married knowing that any idiot and his dog could do the same, I got married because the marriage had meaning and recognized a situation between me and my wife that historically and legally was a pillar of society and part of the bedrock of civilization as well as having the blessing of the church. Now it is meaningless because it no longer means anything. What part of that do you not understand? Are you truly that obtuse and brainwashed that you cannot see truth and logic?

What if instead of the marriage certificate we were talking about a banknote? What if someone said it was OK to photo copy some $100 bills and they were so close in appearance that they fooled you to take one in payment for something you did for them or sold? If you could not trust the note any longer what value is it? What value any $100 bill if it could be just as easily a forgery?

Or title to a car? Or your house? You would surely start bouncing around and peeing your pants then, wouldn't you?

Where do we draw the line? As a democrat all you care about is yourself first and politics second. To hell with the country or the citizens to hell with your kids or grandkids. To hell with people who you don't know or people who don't bow down to the greatest imposter of all time in the White House.

And here's another one for you; what if it was possible to forge a birth certificate claiming your were born in the USA and using that certificate, just as bogus as a marriage certificate issued to two fags, to become the President of the USA?

Would you still claim that it was "on me" and not really a problem?

You Democrats are really something else. Do they give babies who grow up to be Democrats something in their formula to make them that utterly stupid and amoral?
You obviously cannot read very well. I told you h... (show quote)


Lol...I'm not a democrat....but I think you're insane....once again, your marriage certificate is meaningless because of you, nobody else...how does gay people getting married make the certificate of marriage lose value ??? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time...and totally subjective....millions of married people don't agree with you...so I guess it's just your certificate....maybe it's just your marriage

You're going to have to deal with this ...gay people are getting married everyday...and the world is not ending ! You'll have to find another scapegoat...

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May 23, 2015 07:06:51   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
son of witless wrote:
My mistake. I was confidant that I was absolutely clear, but I see I was mistaken. Gay folks are allowed to marry the opposite gender. That is exactly what straight folks can do. Straights cannot marry the same sex. The rights are the same. To allow same sex marriage is to create a new right.

I have no idea if gays fake straight marriage studies. I don't know if gay businesses advertize. their business preferences.


What if they adopted one another, can't a man adopt a man?

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May 23, 2015 12:31:14   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
boofhead wrote:
I am not a Democrat so I am still able to use logic and common sense. If the divorce rate changed at various times it had nothing to do with the queers. If the rate went down I am sure it was despite homosexual "advances".

Let there be no misapprehension: Homosexuals will always be on the fringe and will never be accepted by those of us who have morals. We might be forced to keep our opinions to ourselves under the duress of the failed society we all live in right now, but we will never encourage homosexuality and we will never support "Gay" marriage.

If the faggots had any sense at all they would go back under their rock and stop trying to destroy what they cannot have because of their choice of lifestyle. Once the family is destroyed it cannot be made whole again.

Look at Rome. Look at the parallels with our modern society and ask yourself if we are going down the same path. If you are honest the answer will be obvious. If you are a Democrat you will not care and I suspect not even understand.
I am not a Democrat so I am still able to use logi... (show quote)




Well, at least we can agree on the parallel between the fall of Rome and our current society, though not for the reason I suspect you think. I've been saying this for 20 years, and it has nothing to do with the sexual activity of the population.

Like Rome we are over-funding the military-industrial complex at the expense of education and infrastructure. Similarly our empire-building (ours is more colonialism of economy than of land) is making us more enemies than friends. And many historians think the downfall of Rome was exacerbated by poisoning form their lead pipes, similar to the way we are poisoning our environment with chemicals.

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May 23, 2015 15:26:41   #
dwallace2015
 
Gallup polls have always been know for the lies and the misrepresentation of the true numbers. It is so easy to slew data and make any sort of graph you want. Take ten polls from different groups and you will get ten different graphs, each portraying it's own agenda. Try using the truth instead of polls.

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May 23, 2015 15:45:04   #
boofhead
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Lol...I'm not a democrat....but I think you're insane....once again, your marriage certificate is meaningless because of you, nobody else...how does gay people getting married make the certificate of marriage lose value ??? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time...and totally subjective....millions of married people don't agree with you...so I guess it's just your certificate....maybe it's just your marriage

You're going to have to deal with this ...gay people are getting married everyday...and the world is not ending ! You'll have to find another scapegoat...
Lol...I'm not a democrat....but I think you're ins... (show quote)


I know I can do nothing about it. I don't have to accept it. There is nothing you can say that would allow me to do that. What the queers are doing is not marriage. It is a perversion of marriage because it does not fit the definition as it has been understood for most of human history. It is a perversion. It also infuriates me that a tiny minority of people in the West can turn society upside down.

What do I gain from allowing a small percentage of deviates to take away one of my rights? Or even to reduce the value of that right by their filth? They want to take on a homosexual behavior, go ahead. Not my problem. But if they force churches to officiate over their relationship when they are not qualified to be given that privilege, if they force businesses to close down and good people to lose their livelihood it becomes my problem.

I do not hold them responsible in many ways, I hold those who, for the sake of Political Correctness, support them. If they had been told from the get go "No", they would have backed off and done the right thing, they would have respected the views, cultures and principles of the majority.

But just as the liberals, Democrats, progressives and other brain dead zombies cannot see what is happening to this country under the current administration, why should I expect intelligence from them over this?

Just know, for what it is worth, that I despise those who are encouraging and participating in this depravity and especially those who support "gay" marriage.

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May 23, 2015 16:05:43   #
son of witless
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
What if they adopted one another, can't a man adopt a man?


The topic was same sex marriage. Adaption is another topic.

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