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May 8, 2015 10:31:08   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
no propaganda please wrote:
While we go to church, sitting on the porch watching God's world out there makes me feel closer to God than all the churches in the world.

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Exactly so. :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 8, 2015 13:19:19   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
mcjwelles wrote:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?


Since you put your foot in it. Get your dictionary and define dominion. I wasn't blogging to you.
This is my favorite. "Professing themselves to be wise they became fools." I read that once. I think Shakespeare wrote it. I enjoy this psuedo intellectual nonsense.

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May 8, 2015 22:36:13   #
mcjwelles
 
You quote John speaking of Jesus as one's sole road to God and Heaven's Promise- a bit off topic to my question. The rest is Old Testament, pre-Christian and largely eclipsed as a Gospel of Christianity: The very nature of God was changed significantly through the New Testament: again off target from my inquiry.

Did I miss your point? It seems that the new tenets in the gospels are unequivocally against revenge, judging one's brothers, violence, greed and, indeed, fearfulness that drives people to war against one another. Further, the life that Jesus proposes is the path to Heaven infers that fear of injury or death is a lack of faith in of itself- a very challenging philosophy further complicated by the moral imperative of selfless generosity, of helping one another in times of need- hardly a Capitalist screed. The Jewish precursor is quite different in many of those areas- afterlife is a detail often omitted- the Lord is a vengeful and emotional god and we are indeed created in his image and vice versa.

Comments please?


Oliver wrote:
Please read the following in Romans chapter 13:
1. All powers (governments) are given by God to man (vs.1).
2. Whoever resists the power (governments), resists God (vs.2).
3. Rulers (of governments) are ministers of God for good, not evil, and do not bear the sword [an instrument of death, not incarceration] in vain as they are to be a revenger and an executor of God's wrath upon all that do evil (vs.3-4).

Next, read about the immutability (changeability) of God in Malachi 3:6: "I AM the Lord, I change not..." in conjunction with "Whosoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made He man."

Now read Exodus 15:3: "The Lord is the man of war: the LORD is his name." When Christ was on trial, the Lord of all the heavenly hosts made this statement: "Think that I cannot now pray to My Father and He shall presently give Me more than 12 legions of angels?" (Matthew 26:53) When Christ first came, he came as the Lamb of God to put away sin; but when He returns He will come as the Lion from the tribe of Judah as described in Revelation 19:11-21.

It really is indeed unfortunate that the world has been fed the false Christian gospel of a benevolent God that exacts absolutely no consequences on evil. What a crock that is!

Yes, God is love and life; but He is also a God of judgment and death. As a God of love and life, He sent His son to earth to put on Him (Christ) all of His (God the Father's) judgment and death for all of our sin and evil so that in His (Christ's) resurrection, we may experience His love and life.

Read, also John 3:16: "...whosoever believes on Him [Christ] shall not PERISH but have everlasting life." in conjunction with John 14:6: "I AM the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father but by Me." In other words:
1. If one wants God's way for himself/herself, it is only in Christ.
2. If one wants to know the truth, it is only in Christ.
3. If one wants life, it is only in Christ.

Christ, the very author of "true Christianity" said:" "For God sent not His Son into the world to CONDEMN the world; but that the world THROUGH HIM might be saved. [For] he that believes on Him [Christ] is not condemned; but he that believes not is CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he does not believe in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:17-18

It is your choice: Life in Christ, or condemnation outside of Christ. Choose wisely.
Please read the following in Romans chapter 13: br... (show quote)

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May 9, 2015 12:37:01   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
It's simple. People are not perfect, and there is one God of the Bible.

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May 9, 2015 16:37:03   #
mcjwelles
 
So you don't see a pretty abrupt change of direction from Old to New Testament??? Say, between The god of Sodom and Gomorrah and the Flood And peace and love message mandated through the Word of Jesus? That Jews are Christians are Jews? How about Muslims- just a developmental hiccup from the New Testament... I get that idea but doubt that many Christians, particularly evangelical strains, share your insight.

Virgil. Caine wrote:
It's simple. People are not perfect, and there is one God of the Bible.

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May 9, 2015 16:40:03   #
mcjwelles
 
Control? Common root domination? Sovereignty? I am not following your point. Explain.

Virgil. Caine wrote:
Since you put your foot in it. Get your dictionary and define dominion. I wasn't blogging to you.
This is my favorite. "Professing themselves to be wise they became fools." I read that once. I think Shakespeare wrote it. I enjoy this psuedo intellectual nonsense.

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May 9, 2015 18:08:42   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
Spelled out. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. No explaination. A statement of fact. God creates time, space and matter and then puts man in a perfect world and
gives him, man, dominion.

Enter original sin defined lack of faith. Man and creation fall. Because God abhors sin man shall be judged and punished by a holy righteous God.

God loves his creation, and before the foundation of the world he made a plan to redeem man unto himself.

Basically, in my opinion, the old Testament is God showing the world, man, his plan.

Jesus Christ our Lord fulfilled all the prophecies concerning his birth, death and resurrection. He can do this BECAUSE HE IS GOD. Not some good guy, misunderstood prophet, or an historical figure made up of several teachers walking around Galilee.

Man is fallen, sinful and wicked. Man chose to give his dominion over this world to another. That's why babies die.

It's too simple. God did not chose for man to die. Man did. Can God stop the madness? Yes he can
and will at a time of his chosing.

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May 9, 2015 18:59:47   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
Different topic. Stay focused. Don't stray off too far.

Topic 1. Paraphrase " Why do babies die?" I've answered that to my satisfaction.

Now you have raised a second topic.

Topic2. God's plan to redeem man unto himself or do all faiths lead to redemption?
OR Is there only one true faith? Or, as I say it,
"What must I do to avoid the inevitable wrath of God?" It's the same question. Isn't this really what you want to know? Why so many religions? Aren't they all about the same? What must I do with this Jesus?




Enter ye in at the strait gate, for strait is the gate and narrow the way that leads unto life and few there be that find it. Adam Smith

mcjwelles wrote:
So you don't see a pretty abruptchange of direction from Old to New Testament??? Say, between The god of Sodom and Gomorrah and the Flood And peace and love message mandated through the Word of Jesus? That Jews are Christians are Jews? How about Muslims- just a developmental hiccup from the New Testament... I get that idea but doubt that many Christians, particularly evangelical strains, share your insight.

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May 9, 2015 19:22:26   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
Why do babies die? If your God is all you say and you follow the teachings of Jesus then why did grandmother get ran over by a reindeer coming to our house on Christmas eve? Same question revisited.

This is the original post. >>>>>> "How does the..."

[How does the Christian Right, e.g. GWB, square the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament with Pre-emptive (or any other, for that matter) War Doctrine, renditioning and ANY form of torture, a state-run discipline and punishment
model, with the tenets of Christianity?

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May 10, 2015 10:14:20   #
mcjwelles
 
Dominion, from the hebrew Radah (not even back to Sanskrit) translates as authority and control normally directed at the world of Enemies rather than, say, ones subjects, or the benevolent slant of stewardship to our planet and all of its life. If this adversarial relationship is what this god mandated for humankind's role in the world we seemed to have satisfied our place in this corner of the cosmos pretty well: we have and continue to decimate all other species for our whims, our food sources and our general desecration of our planet. We have excelled at extraordinary cruelty to our own in a manner uniquely human (it gives pause when we use the word 'inhumane' and realize that historically that is actually quite human activity on which we are commenting...) So is this what you think is god's will? Do you believe that is the proper translation of 'dominion'? Does God "love his creation' or is this just godly curiosity to see what we will do with this gift of life? A failing experiment that periodically ends with the Rapture and a new cycle?

The Original Sin spelled out in Genesis appears, to this reader, to have been the loss of animal-like innocence: duality and judgementalism ('Judgement is mine sayeth the Lord...'). It may refer to Man's rather unique bicameral mind- two lobes somewhat connected, with quite different functions. Eastern religions typically point to this human feature as our challenge to finding Enlightenment- as does the New Testament as Jesus instructs us that there are more profound issues than survival that lead us into Heaven- like turning the other cheek, giving it all away- as in 'You are your brothers' keeper', loving thy neighbor.... Hardly any room there for a survival plan- because the goal is Heaven- not this veil of tears. Jesus' God message changes He Who abhors sin and evil and will punish disobedience to A Loving God who will grant forgiveness and redemption to the repentant- right up to our very last breath. A Major change-up into the New Testament. No Noahs in that book!

The prophecies of the fulfillment of Jesus' life , death and resurrection are verbatim the prophecies about numbers of previous martyrs of previous religions all the way back to Horus and the Astrology that preceded him. Why choose one religion over another? Is it all speaking of One God, the True God or not?

Religion most certainly is in conflict with secular and political activity. Christianity, like most any religious discipline, is a pretty arduous life course- and I'm not sure you can either be a little pregnant or a little Christian.

Your thoughts?

Virgil. Caine wrote:
Spelled out. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. No explaination. A statement of fact. God creates time, space and matter and then puts man in a perfect world and
gives him, man, dominion.

Enter original sin defined lack of faith. Man and creation fall. Because God abhors sin man shall be judged and punished by a holy righteous God.

God loves his creation, and before the foundation of the world he made a plan to redeem man unto himself.

Basically, in my opinion, the old Testament is God showing the world, man, his plan.

Jesus Christ our Lord fulfilled all the prophecies concerning his birth, death and resurrection. He can do this BECAUSE HE IS GOD. Not some good guy, misunderstood prophet, or an historical figure made up of several teachers walking around Galilee.

Man is fallen, sinful and wicked. Man chose to give his dominion over this world to another. That's why babies die.

It's too simple. God did not chose for man to die. Man did. Can God stop the madness? Yes he can
and will at a time of his chosing.
Spelled out. In the beginning God created the heav... (show quote)

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May 10, 2015 14:38:41   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
26 And God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
I can go with words like dominion and subdue.

You keep avoiding the adversary, the antagonist, the villain. It's not a good story without the evil doer.

And isn't your questioning, even more,

"Didn't God create evil for whatever end?" If he, God, is all knowing, all powerful, and omnipresent he would have seen Satan's rebellion and man's fall. Why did he, God, do it?

But, no, original sin is lack of faith. God said, Satan said, and man doubted God. Man's actions were followed by the thought. He, man, listened without sin, believed the snake, doubt, and acted, ate of the tree. And dominion was transferred to Satan. Man's decision to follow Satan not God.

I've seen the isis, horis, mary, jesus, statue of ischar, and mystery Babylon documentaries too.

Isn't karma just another way to say "reap what you sow?" It sounds so intellectual. Karma. It's kind of mystical. Wasn't Hercules a copy of Samson or vice versa? Oh the time line. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? (The chicken was created)


So with creation first, flood second and Abraham third I'm going with the worship of the God of the Bible being the oldest and truest religion.

The God of the old and new testament loves mankind. That's why he prepared a plan of salvation. All men have been and are able to approach God.

Now, the difference. Christianity, faith in the Lord Jesus, is God's path for man to him.

All other "faiths" are man's attempts to come to God through works. All other faiths.

Christianity is God reaching out to man. Anything else is man building a bridge to God. The span is too great. Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only way across the gap.

Jesus said, "Take my yoke upon you for it is light and easy to bear."

You are correct. You cannot be a little bit Christian, believer, follower. He, God, has placed an "earnest" in each believer. God alone appraised man's worth and paid the price for all the sins of the world in blood.

For the wages of sin is death but the gift from God is eternal life. While we were yet sinners Christ died.

Confess with your mouth Jesus is LORD, and believe in your heart God raised him, Jesus, from the dead and you will be saved.

He has protected you until this moment of decision.

So I hope you can see through these ramblings man is at war with God. God offers peace on his terms.

Behold and tidings of great joy. On earth peace to men of goodwill.

Not fairy tales or allegories. The revelation of God to man of himself.


mcjwelles wrote:
Dominion, from the hebrew Radah (not even back to Sanskrit) translates as authority and control normally directed at the world of Enemies rather than, say, ones subjects, or the benevolent slant of stewardship to our planet and all of its life. If this adversarial relationship is what this god mandated for humankind's role in the world we seemed to have satisfied our place in this corner of the cosmos pretty well: we have and continue to decimate all other species for our whims, our food sources and our general desecration of our planet. We have excelled at extraordinary cruelty to our own in a manner uniquely human (it gives pause when we use the word 'inhumane' and realize that historically that is actually quite human activity on which we are commenting...) So is this what you think is god's will? Do you believe that is the proper translation of 'dominion'? Does God "love his creation' or is this just godly curiosity to see what we will do with this gift of life? A failing experiment that periodically ends with the Rapture and a new cycle?

The Original Sin spelled out in Genesis appears, to this reader, to have been the loss of animal-like innocence: duality and judgementalism ('Judgement is mine sayeth the Lord...'). It may refer to Man's rather unique bicameral mind- two lobes somewhat connected, with quite different functions. Eastern religions typically point to this human feature as our challenge to finding Enlightenment- as does the New Testament as Jesus instructs us that there are more profound issues than survival that lead us into Heaven- like turning the other cheek, giving it all away- as in 'You are your brothers' keeper', loving thy neighbor.... Hardly any room there for a survival plan- because the goal is Heaven- not this veil of tears. Jesus' God message changes He Who abhors sin and evil and will punish disobedience to A Loving God who will grant forgiveness and redemption to the repentant- right up to our very last breath. A Major change-up into the New Testament. No Noahs in that book!

The prophecies of the fulfillment of Jesus' life , death and resurrection are verbatim the prophecies about numbers of previous martyrs of previous religions all the way back to Horus and the Astrology that preceded him. Why choose one religion over another? Is it all speaking of One God, the True God or not?

Religion most certainly is in conflict with secular and political activity. Christianity, like most any religious discipline, is a pretty arduous life course- and I'm not sure you can either be a little pregnant or a little Christian.

Your thoughts?
Dominion, from the hebrew Radah (not even back to ... (show quote)

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May 11, 2015 08:47:38   #
mcjwelles
 
Virgil. Caine wrote:
26 And God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.” AGAIN, ARE YOU SUPPOSING THIS IS AN ADVERSARIAL GOD? THAT HIS IMAGE IS ONE THAT WOULD DEFILE-THROUGH DOMINION- HIS OWN CREATION? OR IS THAT JUST MAN JUSTIFYING HIS LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE CREATOR'S GIFT. IS THAT WHAT THE TRANSLATION REALLY MEANS OR ARE WE INTERPRETING FOR OUR CONVENIENCE?
27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them. "IMAGE" IS ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT WAS TRANSLATED BY MAN- FOR MAN, NOT THE DEITY. DO YOPU SIMPLY THINK WE LOOK LIKE HIM? ACT LIKE HIM? IMAGE MAY MEAN A BIT MORE THAN THAT, IN FACT OUR ORIGINAL SIN, DUALISM, IS REPRESENTED THROUGH OUR TRANSLATIONS OF THIS "DIVINE TEXT".
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
I can go with words like dominion and subdue. SUBDUE IS ANOTHER PROBLEM IN TRANSLATION: FOR INSTANCE "DOMESTICATE", ANOTHER POSSIBILITY, REFERS TO A RELATIONSHIP NOT FAR, IN HUMAN TERMS, TO NOBLESSE OBLIGE- WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ALL OTHER LIFE- NOT SIMPLY A RIGHT TO EXTERMINATE, EXPLOIT AND ENSLAVE. IT MAY BE A MORE DIFFICULT ROLE WHICH WE PREFER NOT TO HONOR.

You keep avoiding the adversary, the antagonist, the villain. It's not a good story without the evil doer. THE EVIL DOER MAY IN FACT BE THAT DUALITY THAT ALWAYS MUST FRAME OUR UNIVERSE INTO JUDGEMENTAL DEFINITIONS: GOOD/BAD, BLACK/WHITE, ETC. THAT UNIQUE WAY OF SEEING THE WORLD THROUGH HUMAN EYES IS PERHAPS WHY WE LOST PARADISE: WE ATE OF THE FRUIT OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL: THE DEVIL WAS BORN! IT HAS BEEN NOTED THAT JESUS WAS PURE- HE WALKED LIKE AN ANIMAL, WITH NO DOUBTS, NO SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS, IN A STATE OF SELFLESS UNITY , WITH HIS FATHER. THE ONLY CONFLICTS IN HIS LIFE THAT MATTERED TO HIM APPARENTLY WERE THE OCCASIONAL DOUBTS, THE WEARINESS THAT ARE SO HUMAN.

And isn't your questioning, even more,

"Didn't God create evil for whatever end?" If he, God, is all knowing, all powerful, and omnipresent he would have seen Satan's rebellion and man's fall. Why did he, God, do it?

But, no, original sin is lack of faith. God said, Satan said, and man doubted God. Man's actions were followed by the thought. He, man, listened without sin, believed the snake, doubt, and acted, ate of the tree. And dominion was transferred to Satan. Man's decision to follow Satan not God. THAT 'FAITH' WORD IS ANOTHER TRANSLATED WORD THAT ALSO MAY BE LESS LITERAL AND MORE COMPLICATED TO UNDERSTAND: IF THE FRUIT OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL ACTUALLY DOES SPEAK TO THE DUALITY THAT MAKES MAN'S MIND BEHAVE THE WAY IT DOES (A GOOD SURVIVAL TOOL FOR THIS PINK, HAIRLESS CREATURE CERTAINLY), FAITH MAY REFER TO THE DIFFICULTY WE HAVE IN ACCEPTING, OF SEEING THE COSMOS AS THE DIVINELY UNIFIED EVENT THATY IT ACTUALLY IS. MANY OTHER RELIGIONS STRIVE FOR THAT ENLIGHTENED FAITH/UNDERSTANDING- AS THE SPIRITUAL LIFE IS THE WORK PUT BEFORE US ALL. EVEN SCIENCE'S ULTIMATE GOAL INVOLVES "UNIFIED THEORY".

I've seen the isis, horis, mary, jesus, statue of ischar, and mystery Babylon documentaries too.

Isn't karma just another way to say "reap what you sow?" It sounds so intellectual. Karma. It's kind of mystical. Wasn't Hercules a copy of Samson or vice versa? Oh the time line. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? (The chicken was created) KARMA IS AGAIN MISTRANSLATED TO THE WEST AS CAUSE AND EFFECT. IT SPEAKS MORE TO WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR LIFE'S WORK, ENLIGHTENMENT, WHEN YOU PASS. THEIR LIMBO, PERHAPS, IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY- TO REWORK THE CHALLENGES UN-SURMOUNTED IN THE PREVIOUS LIFE. YOUR INABILITY TO FIND THE MEANING OF FAITH?


So with creation first, flood second and Abraham third I'm going with the worship of the God of the Bible being the oldest and truest religion. CERTAINLY NOT THE OLDEST BUT RATHER YET ANOTHER FORMAT THROUGH WHICH WE MAY FINALLY "GET IT"- A PERENNIAL CONCERN OF HUMAN BEINGS EACH AND EVERY GENERATION.

The God of the old and new testament loves mankind. That's why he prepared a plan of salvation. All men have been and are able to approach God. THAT'S WHY HE ERADICATED ENTIRE POPULATIONS IN HIS FRUSTRATION WITH OUR TENDENCY TO MUCKING IT ALL UP? IN A LOVING WAY, OF COURSE... THE GOD PORTRAYED THROUGH THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS NOT PARTICULARLY PORTRAYED AS A LOVING GOD AT ALL!

Now, the difference. Christianity, faith in the Lord Jesus, is God's path for man to him.

All other "faiths" are man's attempts to come to God through works. All other faiths. "WORKS" ARE WALKING THE WALK OF PROFESSED FAITH- KIND OF IMPORTANT: IF YOUR HEART IS PURE AND YOUR FAITH CERTAIN YOU ARE WALKING ALWAYS IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF JESUS. IF YOU THINK ONE CAN HAVE FAITH AND RESPECT IN THE WORD OF THE LORD WHILE CONTINUOUSLY ACTING LIKE A BULLY, THUG OR SPOILED CHILD, EVEN AS YOU PROFESS YOUR FAITH, I SUGGEST THAT IS LAZY SELF-DECEPTION.

Christianity is God reaching out to man. Anything else is man building a bridge to God. The span is too great. Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only way across the gap.

Jesus said, "Take my yoke upon you for it is light and easy to bear."

You are correct. You cannot be a little bit Christian, believer, follower. He, God, has placed an "earnest" in each believer. God alone appraised man's worth and paid the price for all the sins of the world in blood.

For the wages of sin is death but the gift from God is eternal life. While we were yet sinners Christ died.

Confess with your mouth Jesus is LORD, and believe in your heart God raised him, Jesus, from the dead and you will be saved. CONFESSING THE SAME SIN REPEATEDLY REEKS OF COMPLACENCY- IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT REDEMPTION THROUGH A FORGIVING GOD IS GRANTED TO THOSE WHO REPEATEDLY SIN AND REPENT. THINK SERIAL RAPIST OF SMOKER TRYING VAINLY TO QUIT: YOU DIDN'T QUIT IF YOU DIDN'T QUIT.

He has protected you until this moment of decision.

So I hope you can see through these ramblings man is at war with God. God offers peace on his terms.

Behold and tidings of great joy. On earth peace to men of goodwill.

Not fairy tales or allegories. The revelation of God to man of himself.
26 And God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, af... (show quote)
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS.

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May 11, 2015 14:01:43   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
So you see God as the angry father, parent, you
can never please. The truth is God is the loving creator with a rebellious creation.

As in the days of Noe... exceedingly violent... as the time will be before God's final judgement. God will judge.

Karma = reap what you sow. There is a time element. Same idea same concept. Don't over complicate things. Simplicity, simplicity.

Christ said, paraphrase, come to me as a child,
that's how simple God's plan is, a child can understand, but scholars spend their life studying.

2 Corinthians 4:4, 2 Timothy 4:3,
Yep, the preaching of the cross is to them that
perish, foolishness.

Adversarial creator God makes us little more than ants burned under a magnifying glass.

God hates sin. God does not hate his creation. God will punish his creation in a place prepared for
Satan and his followers. Paraphrase.

Domain over my bicycle because my parents have motive. Subdue, train or teach or conform, my
puppy because my parents have a need to feel superior.

REALLY?!!?

So if there is a God and he is powerful enough to create time and separate space from matter and create life from lifeless matter, he is so bored in eternity, he has to have a distraction and poof
here we are.

Aside:
I'm hoping that was a complex compound
sentence and not a run on. My greatest fear was being marked off for punctuation before I learned the truth. Having learned the truth, the good news, the gospel my greatest fear is poor grammar.

So God is the hero with a plan to redeem unto himself all that will be redeemed, and Satan is real and is the adversary wanting to destroy as ma
ny as possible, thus. leaving man in the middle to choose whom to follow

All because Adam in the garden chose to listen to a snake. I find it curious Adam did not find it strange for the snake to speak.

Faith without works is dead. James. I am no man's judge. I can judge action or sin, but I am no man's
judge. God alone shall judge.

Salvation by faith through grace and that, faith, is a gift from God lest any man boast. Ephesians.

Faith of Abraham, Noah, Moses, Job, Adam, David and the new testament church was how salvation came to man. Faith that God would provide and has provided a way for man to escape the coming
judgement and wrath.

Will this generation turn from destruction? Or will God send judgement like he did on Sodom and Gomorrah? In Revelations He has promised to
destroy mystery Babylon in one hour, the great harlot. What other nation past or present fits the description of Mystery Babylon?

God is not mocked.
Or will he rain judgement with fire this time
instead of a flood?

I've been all over the map here. My narrow mind says there is one God. That one God made himself
manifest through his prophets and their inspired writtings given to us as the Old and New Testaments. One of his many promises is he is the rewarder of those who diligently seek him. He has also promised a fiery reward for those chosing to reject him.

We have come along way from why do babies die? .

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May 11, 2015 14:08:35   #
mcjwelles
 
Thanks for your thoughts VC.

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May 11, 2015 20:16:53   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
You're welcome.

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