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May 7, 2015 01:03:31   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
fiatlux wrote:
Arma, you lie. We have no past. And you have never, ever offered me anything in the way of sources or information. This is our first real exchange. You cannot discuss truth, that is like discussing breathing: should I or shouldn't I? Laughable.


Really....you would call someone a liar. I am sure your family is just so very proud of your manners. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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May 7, 2015 01:05:32   #
fiatlux
 
Armageddun wrote:
Your very choice of words and the way you apply them are a revelation of who you really are. I am not the only one who has very, very high suspicions about your identity.


How does that answer my questions to you? What does it matter? Are you answering to Christ's call or conspiracy theories? If I am not the one suspected, what have you done for Christ between us? Make you look like a loon and another soul is lost. Get your frkn priorities str8 and stop looking to save face or get along. You seem far too worldly. Grow down, become as a little child.

But if you want to engage in conspiracy theories about identities, follow Saul.

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May 7, 2015 04:58:12   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Armageddun wrote:
Your very choice of words and the way you apply them are a revelation of who you really are. I am not the only one who has very, very high suspicions about your identity.




2 Thessalonians 2:11 may be included in those suspicions.

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May 7, 2015 06:25:13   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Armageddun wrote:
Open in YouTube: http://youtu.be/6WCkl7ToRq0 (8:53)

Here is a transcript of Rabbi Cahn's message in Washington:
It is April 29, 2015.

Two hundred and twenty-six years ago this day, George Washington readied himself for the first ever presidential inauguration, to take place the following day—the day America as we know it came into existence, with the President's hand resting on the Word of God. That day would conclude with America's first government gathering in prayer to dedicate the nation's future to God.

A century and a half earlier, another seminal event took place on the same day. On April 29, 1607, the voyagers on the Susan Constant, the Discovery, and the Godspeed, gathered together in prayer at Cape Henry to set a wooden cross in the sands of Virginia Beach, and dedicate the new civilization to the will and purposes of God.

America's biblical foundation would be affirmed and reaffirmed over and over again by its forefathers, from the Pilgrims of the Mayflower, to the Puritans of Massachusetts Bay, to the leaders of the first American colonies who declared publicly and in writing that the new Commonwealth had come into existence solely for the glory and purposes of God.

No historian can rewrite that. No president can expunge that. And if a thousand angels swore on a thousand Bibles that this was not the case, it would in no way alter the fact that this American civilization was conceived, established, dedicated, and founded on a biblical cornerstone

—America was brought into existence for the will and purpose of God.

On this night, over two hundred years ago, George Washington held in his hand the first ever presidential address. In that address was a prophetic warning. It was this:

"The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of Order and Right which Heaven itself hath ordained." In other words, if America should ever turn away from God and His ways, if it should ever disregard His eternal rules of Order and Right, then His blessings, the smiles of Heaven, would be removed from the land.

It was an ancient warning. It had been given in Hebrew words by the prophets to the kingdom of Israel. But Israel turned away from God and disregarded His eternal rules of Order and Right.
They drove God out of their government, out of their public squares, out of their culture, out of the lives of their children; they worshiped idols and served other gods.

They celebrated immorality and they persecuted the righteous. They lifted up their children on the altars of foreign gods. And the blessings of God were removed from the land and replaced by judgment.

It is two and half thousand years later, and America has made the same mistake. We, too, have turned away from God. We, too, have driven Him out of the government, out of our public square, out of our culture, out of the lives of our children. We, too, have profaned the sacred and sanctified the profane. And we, too, have killed our most innocent—over fifty-five million of our unborn children—and our collective hands are covered with blood. What we were warned never to do, we now have done.

And now we gather in the city named after the one who gave that prophetic warning. And yesterday, in this city, in the building that sits across from this hill, the Justices of the Supreme Court took up their places on the bench to decide whether America should strike down the biblical and historic definition of marriage.

The very fact that that event should take place as such is a sign in itself, that this is the America of Washington's warning. It's here, and this day of which he warned is now.

We have become a civilization in spiritual schizophrenia, a nation at war against its own foundation. The Supreme Court opens its sessions with the words: "God save the United States and this Honorable Court." But if then—if this honorable court should overrule the word of God and strike down the eternal rules of Order and Right that Heaven itself hath ordained, how then will God save it?

Supreme Court Justices, can you judge the ways of God? Can you, with manmade verdicts, overrule the eternal laws of God? There is another court, and there is another Judge. And before Him, all men and all judges will give account.

If a nation's high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised if the Almighty should pass judgment on that court and that nation?
In the Book of Jeremiah, it is written: "Has a nation ever exchanged its gods? Yet my people have exchanged their glory for that which cannot help them."

Let us not pretend as to what we are now doing. We are doing that which Israel did on the altars of Baal. We are exchanging our God for idols, our light for darkness, and our glory for that which cannot save us.

Are we ready to risk that which comes on the other side of that exchange, the day when the blessings of Heaven are removed from the land?

We began with a word from the President of our first nation's—on the day that he began as President.

I now speak a word to the President of our nation's most recent days. Each time I have spoken here, I have asked a question. I'll now answer it.

Mr. President, with all respect that is due, what happens if one assumes the presidency by placing his left hand on the Word of God, and then, with his right hand, enacts laws that war against the very same Word of God on which he laid his hand? Such an act invokes the judgment of the Almighty.

To swear an Oath on the Word of God in which it is written "Defend the weak" and "Do not murder," and to then to not defend the weak, to not protect the unborn, but, instead, to advance their murder, is to invoke the judgment of the Almighty.

To swear an Oath on the Word of God, in which its written, "Do not cause your brother to stumble," and then to seek to force those who uphold the Word of God to transgress the Word of God, by partaking in the killing of the unborn and the celebration of sin, is to invoke the judgment of the Almighty.

And to swear an Oath on the Word of God, in which its written, "Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people," and then to take part in the leading of a nation away from "the eternal rules of Order and Right that Heaven itself hath ordained," and against the very Word of God on which you laid your hand, is to invoke the judgment of the Almighty.

When the leaders of ancient Israel turned away from God, when they abolished His precepts, and broke His covenant, they did so in the shadow of Moses, whose voice cried out to them in warning.

Mr. President, when you address the nation from this house, look up. Look up above the Senators and Representatives, above the Supreme Court Justices, and above the invited guests, and you will see a face—the only full visage in that wall—looking back at you. It is the face of Moses.

And if that face could speak, it would say this: "No man can overrule the laws of God, no order can annul the order of God, and no judgment of man can stand against the judgments of God. Invoke not His judgment, but choose life. Lead in the way of repentance. Invoke the grace of God, that He might have mercy on this land."

We have come to a most critical moment. As Elijah stood on top of Mount Carmel and cried out to Israel in its hour of decision, in between two altars and two gods, his voice now cries out to America and says: "Choose you this day whom you will serve."

Seventy years ago, the Chaplain of the United States Senate cried out in the same voice, and said to this nation, "If the Lord be God, then follow Him! But if Baal, then follow him and go to hell!"

Tonight, America stands at the crossroads. And as Elijah came to the summit of Mount Carmel to make a declaration, we have come this night to Capitol Hill to declare that our god is not Baal. Our god is not Molech. Our god is not the government. Our god is not money. Our god is not power; not pleasure. Our god is not political correctness or any other man-made thing.

We have come to this hill to declare that there is only one God, and He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He is the God of Israel and of all nations. He alone is the Rock upon which this nation has come into existence.

And from this high place we make this declaration: "We will not bow down our knees to Baal. We will not bow down our knees to political correctness. We will not bow down our knees to a morality that is as shifting as sand in the wind.

We will not bow down our knees to the laws and precepts of rebellion or to the sacred cows of moral apostasy. We will not bow down our knees to the idols of man. We will not bow down to Baal.

We will bow down our knees only to the Lord our God, come what may, and we will have no other gods before Him."

For some trust in chariots, and some trust in princes, some trust in supreme courts, some trust in White Houses, some trust in governments, some trust in Wall Streets, some trust in powers, and some trust in idols.

But we will trust in the name of the Lord our God, the name above all names, above all kings, above all powers. We will trust in the only name given by which we can be saved.

We will trust in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus the Messiah, the King of all kings, the Lord of all lords, the Judge of all judges, the Light of the World, the Glory of Israel, the Foundation Stone upon which this nation came into existence, and the only answer, the only chance, and the only hope America has, that it might once again shine with the light of the fire of the presence of the glory of the Living God, and not go to hell, so help us, God.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/rabbi-jonathan-cahn-gives-america-a-final-warning/#dEXdpqqCh1sYKl75.99
Open in YouTube: http://youtu.be/6WCkl7ToRq0 (8:53... (show quote)




Most excellent post!!!!
I believe the prophetic time line for the lawless one to take stage is upon us! Turkey has amassed it's army on the border "Today"!!
Just a few weeks ago, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, have been actively engaged in high-level talks with the goal of possibly creating a joint military alliance to oust Syrian President Bashar Assad. Today the prime minister of Turkey is Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Today the Turkish army is on the Syrian border. Syria, however,  apparently seems to be supported by Iran. Again keep in mind that BOTH opposing countries also have differing religious beliefs. There is speculation that Turkey may want to ultimately re-establish the Ottoman Empire. However, it is very possible that a major war between Shi'ite and Sunnis may be on the horizon with the victor claiming superiority in Islam. That being said, who will be the leader?

Now you have Turkey rising up in what is transpiring in the Middle East. Thus, the famed War of Gog and Magog as mentioned in Ezekiel 38-39 is not too far off.
It is being reported that The United Nations and United States leadership want Syrian President Assad gone. It also appears as if Russia and Iraq want Assad to stay. The United States  have pushing for Middle Eastern led military action. The US, UN, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and other world powers are pushing for an escalation of force to oust the Syrian President.

Talk of a military conflict between Israel and Iran is also on the rise. In Ezekiel 38 a Russian led invasion into Israel is described. Russia is Joined by Iran, Turkey, Ethiopia/Sudan (Cush), and Libya.

 As Ezekiel names each country that will receive judgment from God, we see that they are the same countries that are modern day enemies of Israel since her foundation as a sovereign country in 1948. God names Egypt in chapters 30-31 along with the nations that comprise northern Africa such as Ethiopia, Libya  and others in confederation with Egypt called Chub. As you progress though chapters leading to chapter 38, judgment is pronounced on modern day Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and those countries that are touching the land of Israel then and today.  Each will fall by the sword "which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living." Maybe a clear reference to Muslim terrorism we deal with today?

  All who have been watching the signs of the times, have wondered what could be the meaning of the Blood Moons that have already had three pass in the last year and the present  year? We still have one more Blood Moon this fall during Tabernacles and have been linked in history with "something" significant happening to Israel. Could this be what will be happening this year? And what will be the result of such an attack? I believe you will see condemnation from the POTUS against Israel and withdrawing support from the tiny Jewish state. I see UN sanctions coming upon Israel and Israel's enemies smelling blood and vulnerability and mounting an ill-conceived attack to fulfill the Psalm 83 prophecy. Can you see how quickly we are moving in Bible prophecy that leads up to Ezekiel 38-39? One will lead directly to the next. How long between the two? I don't believe it will be very long, but I believe long enough for Israel to finally feel safe. Ezekiel chapter 38:

We are at the end of prophetic time line, and the beginning of the marriage supper, at any time.

When we look around today at what is happening in this nation, America is now fully characterized by this rejection of authority. The following of the flesh and all its dark desires, is foolishly viewed as enlightenment. When in reality it is darkening. ( Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter, Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!....Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. And if you want to know more about those "woes" and what they portend, just see Revelation 9 thru 16! ). It is darkening to a society, and it is personally darkening, placing scales over the eyes. Eventually making the rebellious one blind to truth entirely. They are then utterly susceptible to delusion. Literally a form of madness. This is why we often scratch our heads at how stupid some of the "smart people in charge of things" can seem to be. Power can corrupt. Lucifer being our prime example.

I believe God has given america over to her sins, removed his hand of protection from our nation, allowing her demise and absence as a power during the times of Jacobs troubles.

No man knows the day or the hour, but we know that since may 1948 the generation that sees all of the birth pangs is growing older and all prophecy for the groom "Jesus" to call up his bride "the church" has been fulfilled, so we follow the command to know the signs, occupy "do the Lord's work" and look up..........our redemption draws nigh.

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May 7, 2015 15:07:34   #
Ricktloml
 
fiatlux wrote:
What? The problem of a possible sectarian dominance was not present until the Constitution was written, as separate colonies filled with various denominations. The Puritans of 1607 were there to escape Christian, not Muslim or atheist or pagan, persecution in Europe.


The Puritans came to the new world to escape persecution from the Anglican Church of England and edicts from King George I, who refused to allow them to criticize the church.

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May 7, 2015 15:34:26   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Armageddun wrote:


Here is a transcript of Rabbi Cahn's message in Washington:
It is April 29, 2015.

Two hundred and twenty-six years ago this day, George Washington readied himself for the first ever presidential inauguration, to take place the following day—the day America as we know it came into existence, with the President's hand resting on the Word of God. That day would conclude with America's first government gathering in prayer to dedicate the nation's future to God.
I watched that last night. I would suggest to anyone who doubts Rabbi Cahn's message that they read his two books, The Harbinger and The Mystery of the Shemitah. These are mind-blowing and will give a much clearer and deeper understanding of his message in this speech.

I am still trying to process the enormous implications of the timelines and events that have occurred throughout history in the Biblical Sabbath (Shemitah) years presented in The Mystery of the Shemitah. The accuracy of these events in relation to the Sabbath year is astounding.

Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof;

But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the Lord: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.
Leviticus 25: 3-4

As with much of Biblical wisdom and instruction, there is far more meaning in the message than is revealed in the written word. For this reason, merely reading the Bible and accepting it at face value is futile. There is much more involved in gaining and understanding the wisdom in the Word of God than just reading it.

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May 7, 2015 20:06:40   #
Ricktloml
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I watched that last night. I would suggest to anyone who doubts Rabbi Cahn's message that they read his two books, The Harbinger and The Mystery of the Shemitah. These are mind-blowing and will give a much clearer and deeper understanding of his message in this speech.

I am still trying to process the enormous implications of the timelines and events that have occurred throughout history in the Biblical Sabbath (Shemitah) years presented in The Mystery of the Shemitah. The accuracy of these events in relation to the Sabbath year is astounding.

Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof;

But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the Lord: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.
Leviticus 25: 3-4

As with much of Biblical wisdom and instruction, there is far more meaning in the message than is revealed in the written word. For this reason, merely reading the Bible and accepting it at face value is futile. There is much more involved in gaining and understanding the wisdom in the Word of God than just reading it.
I watched that last night. I would suggest to anyo... (show quote)


Right you are. You must study the bible and pray for understanding, that being said I believe the Bible is a love letter from a Father to His children and He wants us to "get" it

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May 7, 2015 20:38:29   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Right you are. You must study the bible and pray for understanding, that being said I believe the Bible is a love letter from a Father to His children and He wants us to "get" it


Amen

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May 7, 2015 22:31:16   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Most excellent post!!!!
I believe the prophetic time line for the lawless one to take stage is upon us! Turkey has amassed it's army on the border "Today"!!
Just a few weeks ago, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, have been actively engaged in high-level talks with the goal of possibly creating a joint military alliance to oust Syrian President Bashar Assad. Today the prime minister of Turkey is Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Today the Turkish army is on the Syrian border. Syria, however,  apparently seems to be supported by Iran. Again keep in mind that BOTH opposing countries also have differing religious beliefs. There is speculation that Turkey may want to ultimately re-establish the Ottoman Empire. However, it is very possible that a major war between Shi'ite and Sunnis may be on the horizon with the victor claiming superiority in Islam. That being said, who will be the leader?

Now you have Turkey rising up in what is transpiring in the Middle East. Thus, the famed War of Gog and Magog as mentioned in Ezekiel 38-39 is not too far off.
It is being reported that The United Nations and United States leadership want Syrian President Assad gone. It also appears as if Russia and Iraq want Assad to stay. The United States  have pushing for Middle Eastern led military action. The US, UN, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and other world powers are pushing for an escalation of force to oust the Syrian President.

Talk of a military conflict between Israel and Iran is also on the rise. In Ezekiel 38 a Russian led invasion into Israel is described. Russia is Joined by Iran, Turkey, Ethiopia/Sudan (Cush), and Libya.

 As Ezekiel names each country that will receive judgment from God, we see that they are the same countries that are modern day enemies of Israel since her foundation as a sovereign country in 1948. God names Egypt in chapters 30-31 along with the nations that comprise northern Africa such as Ethiopia, Libya  and others in confederation with Egypt called Chub. As you progress though chapters leading to chapter 38, judgment is pronounced on modern day Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and those countries that are touching the land of Israel then and today.  Each will fall by the sword "which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living." Maybe a clear reference to Muslim terrorism we deal with today?

  All who have been watching the signs of the times, have wondered what could be the meaning of the Blood Moons that have already had three pass in the last year and the present  year? We still have one more Blood Moon this fall during Tabernacles and have been linked in history with "something" significant happening to Israel. Could this be what will be happening this year? And what will be the result of such an attack? I believe you will see condemnation from the POTUS against Israel and withdrawing support from the tiny Jewish state. I see UN sanctions coming upon Israel and Israel's enemies smelling blood and vulnerability and mounting an ill-conceived attack to fulfill the Psalm 83 prophecy. Can you see how quickly we are moving in Bible prophecy that leads up to Ezekiel 38-39? One will lead directly to the next. How long between the two? I don't believe it will be very long, but I believe long enough for Israel to finally feel safe. Ezekiel chapter 38:

We are at the end of prophetic time line, and the beginning of the marriage supper, at any time.

When we look around today at what is happening in this nation, America is now fully characterized by this rejection of authority. The following of the flesh and all its dark desires, is foolishly viewed as enlightenment. When in reality it is darkening. ( Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter, Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!....Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. And if you want to know more about those "woes" and what they portend, just see Revelation 9 thru 16! ). It is darkening to a society, and it is personally darkening, placing scales over the eyes. Eventually making the rebellious one blind to truth entirely. They are then utterly susceptible to delusion. Literally a form of madness. This is why we often scratch our heads at how stupid some of the "smart people in charge of things" can seem to be. Power can corrupt. Lucifer being our prime example.

I believe God has given america over to her sins, removed his hand of protection from our nation, allowing her demise and absence as a power during the times of Jacobs troubles.

No man knows the day or the hour, but we know that since may 1948 the generation that sees all of the birth pangs is growing older and all prophecy for the groom "Jesus" to call up his bride "the church" has been fulfilled, so we follow the command to know the signs, occupy "do the Lord's work" and look up..........our redemption draws nigh.
Most excellent post!!!! br I believe the propheti... (show quote)


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May 7, 2015 22:31:53   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Right you are. You must study the bible and pray for understanding, that being said I believe the Bible is a love letter from a Father to His children and He wants us to "get" it


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