Baltimore police criminal charges (Page 3): There was no probable cause for his arrest.

moldyoldy

green apples wrote:

How do YOU know the "Cops were wrong"?? STOP IT!!
YOU were not there and you don't know one thing about the people whose word you are taking to be true. And TRUTHFULLY....they weren't there either!!! FORGET COLOR!!! THAT has NOTHING to do with anything (except for the people who are stupid enough to think it does). Judge them by the content of their character!

There was no probable cause for his arrest.

tom25411 Loc: WV

I can understand how the cops become so street hardened when day after day they have to deal with a group of people who are predisposed to burn, loot, riot and kill at the drop of a hat.

They complain about no jobs or opportunities. How many people will report for work at those burnt out stores today?

I did see some hope with that woman who stopped her son from throwing a rock at police. Sadly, there are few parents that care what their kids are doing in that community. Or, for that matter; kids who even know who their parents are.

Why, why? did the O Bo man not send a top level delegation to Grey's funeral?......

jelun

Dick_Eastman wrote:

If the driver is getting the most serious charge, ... (show quote)

No, you have been misinformed.
He was on camera with a TV reporter and said that he spoke to homicide investigators and did not say what that police report which was apparently a fake to be given to the Washington Post
claimed.
Do you know that prosecutor?
What all has she ignored?

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/second-man-in-police-transport-van-speaks-out/32669692

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

jelun wrote:

Did you see the article about one FOX Local station releasing a picture of last year's Brazilian fires and claiming it was from Baltimore on Monday?
And there was no switchblade...he was falsely arrested. All this because this victim of lead poisoning was afraid of the police, rightly so.

No, I didn't see it. What city was this alleged picture by Fox shown? Who was the author of the 'article'? In what newspaper, magazine, or blog was it published?

Who said there was a switchblade and who said there wasn't?

Who was the victim of "lead poisoning"? It certainly wasn't Gray, he wasn't shot.

jelun

PoppaGringo wrote:

No, I didn't see it. What city was this alleged picture by Fox shown? Who was the author of the 'article'? In what newspaper, magazine, or blog was it published?

Who said there was a switchblade and who said there wasn't?

Who was the victim of "lead poisoning"? It certainly wasn't Gray, he wasn't shot.

I think you would prefer to remain ignorant.
Thanks for the invitation to play.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

moldyoldy wrote:

There was no probable cause for his arrest.

And you know this for a fact?

Get real.

jelun

Blade_Runner wrote:

And you know this for a fact?

Get real.

Well yes, we do.
Note the False Imprisonment that is because they lied and he did NOT have a switchblade, he was carrying a legal knife.
You know kinda like carrying a legal gun.
http://www.voanews.com/content/list-of-charges-against-baltimore-officers/2744742.html
One more addition...

BALTIMORE (AP) Prosecutor: Knife, not switchblade, was found clipped to Gray's pants pocket; was legal.
http://home.toshiba.com/news/read/category/us/hashtag/News/article/the_associated_press-prosecutor_knife_not_s

jelun

So yes, I feel that I can accept that as fact.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

jelun wrote:

So yes, I feel that I can accept that as fact.

Of course you can, you're a liberal. You accept most anything as fact, even before it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. The seriousness of the charge is all you need to convict.

jelun

Blade_Runner wrote:

Of course you can, you're a liberal. You accept most anything as fact, even before it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. The seriousness of the charge is all you need to convict.

The charge against Mr. Gray will not be going to a court of law, they killed him.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

jelun wrote:

The charge against Mr. Gray will not be going to a court of law, they killed him.

Or not. Yeah, Gray is dead, but whether the police committed homicide hasn't been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. Like I said, the seriousness of the charge is all you need to convict. You're so predictable.

jelun

Blade_Runner wrote:

Or not. Hasn't been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. Like I said, the seriousness of the charge is all you need to convict. You're so predictable.

They killed him, murder hasn't been proven.
They did kill him or stood by and kept quiet while their coworkers did.
How hard do you suppose someone would have to hit a wall to have an imprint of a bolt significant enough for a medical examiner to be able to match it to a bolt in van more than a week later?

I was a total failure at physics, however...

richard0135 Loc: little rock, arkansas

She Wolf wrote:

I agree. Allowing these law enforcement agencies ... (show quote)

Well, looks like I can make some money on the officers being convicted of murder. I will take all bets that there is no murder conviction. There may be a misdemeanor conviction of maybe one officer. Make the odds right and I will bet about any charge

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

jelun wrote:

They killed him, murder hasn't been proven.
They did kill him or stood by and kept quiet while their coworkers did.
How hard do you suppose someone would have to hit a wall to have an imprint of a bolt significant enough for a medical examiner to be able to match it to a bolt in van more than a week later?

I was a total failure at physics, however...

Gray is dead, no doubt about that. To say, "they killed him" suggests that the officers acted with intent. Do you understand the legal definition and the degrees of homicide? These do include accidental death without premeditation or intent. I think these officers are getting the shaft. This entire thing is a travesty driven solely by a political agenda. In your hatred of police, you are an accomplice to this.

jelun

Blade_Runner wrote:

Gray is dead, no doubt about that. To say, "they killed him" suggests that the officers acted with intent. Do you understand the legal definition and the degrees of homicide? These do include accidental death without premeditation or intent. I think these officers are getting the shaft. This entire thing is a travesty driven solely by a political agenda. In your hatred of police, you are an accomplice to this.

It doesn't do that at all.
I killed a deer a few years back, ruined my car's right front end.
I certainly didn't intend that. Saying killing doesn't indicate any belief in intent.
While each state has differing parameters for various charges, yes. I do understand the degrees of the charges. None of the police have been charged with a particularly heinous act by MD law.
That doesn't speak to their level of disregard or how disgusting it is that they conspired to obstruct justice when they apparently decided not to report one of the stops that they made in the van.
Only a private security camera outed them on that one.
Why would people omit anything unless they were hoping to avoid culpability?