What to do with the Palestinian territory
Apr 21, 2015 23:43:14 #
eagleye13 wrote:
The US government was largely responsible for creating this mess. Creating the state of Israeli in 1948, for Eastern European non Hebrew Ashkenazis).
The Ashkenazi Jews are eastern European Jews but they are also Hebrew Jews.
Apr 22, 2015 07:05:24 #
She Wolf wrote:
Here's an idea. Both sides live up to previous agreements. Two state solution. Since neither side is capable of leaving the other alone set up armed borders. Supply each side with the same weapon systems and then the U.S. stops all aid to either side and allows them to solve their own problems.
Just a reminder about the difference between offense and defense.
Apr 22, 2015 08:09:07 #
Ronald Hatt
Loc: Lansing, Mich
JFlorio wrote:
Here's an idea. Most of the land currently called ... (show quote)
Sounds like a "plan"!.......Let's GO WITH IT!.................... :lol: :thumbup:
Apr 22, 2015 11:46:53 #
Jerry A.
Loc: California
JFlorio wrote:
Here's an idea. Most of the land currently called ... (show quote)
Your idea is full of bull....sh.... you are sending stupid post in the Political Forum lying, shame on you.
Apr 22, 2015 12:43:42 #
Ronald Hatt
Loc: Lansing, Mich
Jerry A. wrote:
Your idea is full of bull....sh.... you are sending stupid post in the Political Forum lying, shame on you.
Business as "usual".....for "Jerry.....The "A"" hole!
Apr 22, 2015 15:49:09 #
JFlorio wrote:
Here's an idea. Most of the land currently called ... (show quote)
nice dream Florio
two words
never happen
Apr 23, 2015 00:20:05 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
Unfortunately you are right. Just a thought provoking post.
badbobby wrote:
nice dream Florio
two words
never happen
two words
never happen
Apr 23, 2015 10:23:20 #
Jerry A.
Loc: California
Nickolai wrote:
The Ashkenazi Jews are eastern European Jews but they are also Hebrew Jews.
Jews had 12 tribes and only 2 survive and they dispersed around the world, they don't had a country or land of their own and Arabs, Jews, and Christians lived together in Palestine under U.K. occupation before the end of WW-II, later the U.K. left and the U.N. created the State of Israel in 1948, in Palestine land and the trouble started there.
Apr 23, 2015 10:23:20 #
Jerry A.
Loc: California
Nickolai wrote:
The Ashkenazi Jews are eastern European Jews but they are also Hebrew Jews.
Jews had 12 tribes and only 2 survive and they dispersed around the world, they don't had a country or land of their own and Arabs, Jews, and Christians lived together in Palestine under U.K. occupation until the end of WW-II, and the U.K. left and the U.N. created the State of Israel in 1948, in Palestine land and the trouble started there.
Apr 23, 2015 10:58:17 #
Jerry A.
Loc: California
Nickolai wrote:
The Ashkenazi Jews are eastern European Jews but they are also Hebrew Jews.
Jews are Jews regardless if they are Ashkenazis, Sephardics, etc., etc.
Apr 23, 2015 11:01:25 #
The Bible has many specific prophecies to both Judah and also to 10 tribed Israel/Joseph and his seed;
Ephraim and Menassah.
Genesis 48 ESV - Jacob Blesses Ephraim and Manasseh - Bible ...
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3Fsearch%3DGenesis%2B48%26version%3DESV
Jacob Blesses Ephraim and Manasseh - After this, Joseph was told, Behold, your father is ill. So he took with him his two sons, Manasseh and.
Jacob Blesses Ephraim and Manasseh
48 After this, Joseph was told, Behold, your father is ill. So he took with him his two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim. 2 And it was told to Jacob, Your son Joseph has come to you. Then Israel summoned his strength and sat up in bed. 3 And Jacob said to Joseph, God Almighty[a] appeared to me at Luz in the land of Canaan and blessed me, 4 and said to me, Behold, I will make you fruitful and multiply you, and I will make of you a company of peoples and will give this land to your offspring after you for an everlasting possession. 5 And now your two sons, who were born to you in the land of Egypt before I came to you in Egypt, are mine; Ephraim and Manasseh shall be mine, as Reuben and Simeon are. 6 And the children that you fathered after them shall be yours. They shall be called by the name of their brothers in their inheritance. 7 As for me, when I came from Paddan, to my sorrow Rachel died in the land of Canaan on the way, when there was still some distance[b] to go to Ephrath, and I buried her there on the way to Ephrath (that is, Bethlehem).
8 When Israel saw Joseph's sons, he said, Who are these? 9 Joseph said to his father, They are my sons, whom God has given me here. And he said, Bring them to me, please, that I may bless them. 10 Now the eyes of Israel were dim with age, so that he could not see. So Joseph brought them near him, and he kissed them and embraced them. 11 And Israel said to Joseph, I never expected to see your face; and behold, God has let me see your offspring also. 12 Then Joseph removed them from his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth. 13 And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel's left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel's right hand, and brought them near him. 14 And Israel stretched out his right hand and laid it on the head of Ephraim, who was the younger, and his left hand on the head of Manasseh, crossing his hands (for Manasseh was the firstborn). 15 And he blessed Joseph and said,
The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked,
the God who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day,
16 the angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys;
and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac;
and let them grow into a multitude[c] in the midst of the earth.
17 When Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand on the head of Ephraim, it displeased him, and he took his father's hand to move it from Ephraim's head to Manasseh's head. 18 And Joseph said to his father, Not this way, my father; since this one is the firstborn, put your right hand on his head. 19 But his father refused and said, I know, my son, I know. He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his offspring shall become a multitude[d] of nations. 20 So he blessed them that day, saying,
By you Israel will pronounce blessings, saying,
God make you as Ephraim and as Manasseh.
Thus he put Ephraim before Manasseh. 21 Then Israel said to Joseph, Behold, I am about to die, but God will be with you and will bring you again to the land of your fathers. 22 Moreover, I have given to you rather than to your brothers one mountain slope[e] that I took from the hand of the Amorites with my sword and with my bow.
8 When Israel saw Joseph's sons, he said, Who are these? 9 Joseph said to his father, They are my sons, whom God has given me here. And he said, Bring them to me, please, that I may bless them. 10 Now the eyes of Israel were dim with age, so that he could not see. So Joseph brought them near him, and he kissed them and embraced them. 11 And Israel said to Joseph, I never expected to see your face; and behold, God has let me see your offspring also. 12 Then Joseph removed them from his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth. 13 And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel's left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel's right hand, and brought them near him. 14 And Israel stretched out his right hand and laid it on the head of Ephraim, who was the younger, and his left hand on the head of Manasseh, crossing his hands (for Manasseh was the firstborn). 15 And he blessed Joseph and said,
The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked,
the God who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day,
16 the angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys;
and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac;
and let them grow into a multitude[c] in the midst of the earth.
17 When Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand on the head of Ephraim, it displeased him, and he took his father's hand to move it from Ephraim's head to Manasseh's head. 18 And Joseph said to his father, Not this way, my father; since this one is the firstborn, put your right hand on his head. 19 But his father refused and said, I know, my son, I know. He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his offspring shall become a multitude[d] of nations. 20 So he blessed them that day, saying,
By you Israel will pronounce blessings, saying,
God make you as Ephraim and as Manasseh.
Thus he put Ephraim before Manasseh. 21 Then Israel said to Joseph, Behold, I am about to die, but God will be with you and will bring you again to the land of your fathers. 22 Moreover, I have given to you rather than to your brothers one mountain slope[e] that I took from the hand of the Amorites with my sword and with my bow.
Ephraim and Menassah.
Genesis 48 ESV - Jacob Blesses Ephraim and Manasseh - Bible ...
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3Fsearch%3DGenesis%2B48%26version%3DESV
Jacob Blesses Ephraim and Manasseh - After this, Joseph was told, Behold, your father is ill. So he took with him his two sons, Manasseh and.
Jacob Blesses Ephraim and Manasseh
48 After this, Joseph was told, Behold, your father is ill. So he took with him his two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim. 2 And it was told to Jacob, Your son Joseph has come to you. Then Israel summoned his strength and sat up in bed. 3 And Jacob said to Joseph, God Almighty[a] appeared to me at Luz in the land of Canaan and blessed me, 4 and said to me, Behold, I will make you fruitful and multiply you, and I will make of you a company of peoples and will give this land to your offspring after you for an everlasting possession. 5 And now your two sons, who were born to you in the land of Egypt before I came to you in Egypt, are mine; Ephraim and Manasseh shall be mine, as Reuben and Simeon are. 6 And the children that you fathered after them shall be yours. They shall be called by the name of their brothers in their inheritance. 7 As for me, when I came from Paddan, to my sorrow Rachel died in the land of Canaan on the way, when there was still some distance[b] to go to Ephrath, and I buried her there on the way to Ephrath (that is, Bethlehem).
8 When Israel saw Joseph's sons, he said, Who are these? 9 Joseph said to his father, They are my sons, whom God has given me here. And he said, Bring them to me, please, that I may bless them. 10 Now the eyes of Israel were dim with age, so that he could not see. So Joseph brought them near him, and he kissed them and embraced them. 11 And Israel said to Joseph, I never expected to see your face; and behold, God has let me see your offspring also. 12 Then Joseph removed them from his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth. 13 And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel's left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel's right hand, and brought them near him. 14 And Israel stretched out his right hand and laid it on the head of Ephraim, who was the younger, and his left hand on the head of Manasseh, crossing his hands (for Manasseh was the firstborn). 15 And he blessed Joseph and said,
The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked,
the God who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day,
16 the angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys;
and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac;
and let them grow into a multitude[c] in the midst of the earth.
17 When Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand on the head of Ephraim, it displeased him, and he took his father's hand to move it from Ephraim's head to Manasseh's head. 18 And Joseph said to his father, Not this way, my father; since this one is the firstborn, put your right hand on his head. 19 But his father refused and said, I know, my son, I know. He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his offspring shall become a multitude[d] of nations. 20 So he blessed them that day, saying,
By you Israel will pronounce blessings, saying,
God make you as Ephraim and as Manasseh.
Thus he put Ephraim before Manasseh. 21 Then Israel said to Joseph, Behold, I am about to die, but God will be with you and will bring you again to the land of your fathers. 22 Moreover, I have given to you rather than to your brothers one mountain slope[e] that I took from the hand of the Amorites with my sword and with my bow.
8 When Israel saw Joseph's sons, he said, Who are these? 9 Joseph said to his father, They are my sons, whom God has given me here. And he said, Bring them to me, please, that I may bless them. 10 Now the eyes of Israel were dim with age, so that he could not see. So Joseph brought them near him, and he kissed them and embraced them. 11 And Israel said to Joseph, I never expected to see your face; and behold, God has let me see your offspring also. 12 Then Joseph removed them from his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth. 13 And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel's left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel's right hand, and brought them near him. 14 And Israel stretched out his right hand and laid it on the head of Ephraim, who was the younger, and his left hand on the head of Manasseh, crossing his hands (for Manasseh was the firstborn). 15 And he blessed Joseph and said,
The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked,
the God who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day,
16 the angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys;
and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac;
and let them grow into a multitude[c] in the midst of the earth.
17 When Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand on the head of Ephraim, it displeased him, and he took his father's hand to move it from Ephraim's head to Manasseh's head. 18 And Joseph said to his father, Not this way, my father; since this one is the firstborn, put your right hand on his head. 19 But his father refused and said, I know, my son, I know. He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his offspring shall become a multitude[d] of nations. 20 So he blessed them that day, saying,
By you Israel will pronounce blessings, saying,
God make you as Ephraim and as Manasseh.
Thus he put Ephraim before Manasseh. 21 Then Israel said to Joseph, Behold, I am about to die, but God will be with you and will bring you again to the land of your fathers. 22 Moreover, I have given to you rather than to your brothers one mountain slope[e] that I took from the hand of the Amorites with my sword and with my bow.
JFlorio wrote:
I prefer to stick my head in the Bible. It is what I believe and many of the prophesies I believe in would also be called conspiracy theories by many. I, like you don't care. I will never be convinced that the Bible is not the word of God or that Jesus Christ is not my savior. Many call us Evangelicals nut jobs and worse. I have enough problem trying to live up to my Christian duty without worrying about secular view points.
Apr 23, 2015 11:04:26 #
Nickolai wrote:
The Ashkenazi Jews are eastern European Jews but they are also Hebrew Jews.
Not!
Many books on this;
Judahs Sceptre and josephs Birthright by J. H. Allen
The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler
Ashkenazi Jews: Who are they? They are not really Jews
http://www.lasttrumpet.org/ashkenazi.htm
Apr 23, 2015 21:19:33 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
You are absolutely right. Regardless of the blood, Jews are more than an inheritance of genes and blood. Jews who are believers, as in time past, are Jews. The bible is clear, Abraham is both the father of physical Israel known as the Jews and father of spiritual descendants, that is, everyone who believes in the Messiah (Gen. 15:6).
Thank you for having the fortitude to stand up for Jews all over the world!!!
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Thank you for having the fortitude to stand up for Jews all over the world!!!
Jerry A. wrote:
Jews are Jews regardless if they are Ashkenazi, Sephardic, etc., etc.
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Apr 24, 2015 01:17:55 #
Blood is hugely important to God.
He gave purpose to blood lines.
Particularly the Judah bloodline bringing forth Christ the Messiah.
There is a reason His sheep know him, and perform to fulfill the prophesies of Israel; the Western Europeans, the Anglo Saxons (Sons of Isaac), Scandinavian (Dan), Germanic and kindred peoples.
The "lost" 10 tribes of Israel, taken and scattered under the Assyrian captivity. Those to be His servant people, and a blessing to all nations.
All peoples are welcome to accept Jesus as their lord and Savior.
He gave purpose to blood lines.
Particularly the Judah bloodline bringing forth Christ the Messiah.
There is a reason His sheep know him, and perform to fulfill the prophesies of Israel; the Western Europeans, the Anglo Saxons (Sons of Isaac), Scandinavian (Dan), Germanic and kindred peoples.
The "lost" 10 tribes of Israel, taken and scattered under the Assyrian captivity. Those to be His servant people, and a blessing to all nations.
All peoples are welcome to accept Jesus as their lord and Savior.
Pennylynn wrote:
You are absolutely right. Regardless of the blood, Jews are more than an inheritance of genes and blood. Jews who are believers, as in time past, are Jews. The bible is clear, Abraham is both the father of physical Israel known as the Jews and father of spiritual descendants, that is, everyone who believes in the Messiah (Gen. 15:6).
Thank you for having the fortitude to stand up for Jews all over the world!!!
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Thank you for having the fortitude to stand up for Jews all over the world!!!
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Apr 24, 2015 11:05:51 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
eagleye13 wrote:
Blood is hugely important to God. br He gave purpo... (show quote)
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