BOOM: Pat Sajak Destroys the Minimum Wage in Just 1 Tweet (Page 8): IMO this is a treaty and as such, should be fully examined by the appropriate Congressional committee (s) and then...

Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs

J Anthony wrote:

Not "who", but "what"...the Tr... (show quote)

IMO this is a treaty and as such, should be fully examined by the appropriate Congressional committee (s) and then fully debated on the floors of both houses before any vote up or down is taken. No fast track!

PS: The unions have always been in the pocket of the Dems (not so much their members) so why isn't Trumpka and the others drawing nearly CEO wages cashing in their political chits?

robert66

LAPhil wrote:

And there's also a supply and demand factor here. If an employer needs a few highly skilled workers he will most likely be willing them a higher wage than for a low-skilled job for which workers may be a dime a dozen. Another fact of economics which liberals continually refuse to acknowledge.

If you cannot pay a minimum wage then you are not a viable business because employees will then turn to government assistance for food and shelter thereby putting more burden on those who earn more to pay higher taxes. Minimum wage is based on the lowest amount you can be paid and exist on your own. Free market only works with some regulation and this is one that is necessary. Things are not as simple as some old farts like to spout off about.

JimMe

LAPhil wrote:

And there's also a supply and demand factor here. If an employer needs a few highly skilled workers he will most likely be willing them a higher wage than for a low-skilled job for which workers may be a dime a dozen. Another fact of economics which liberals continually refuse to acknowledge.

Oh... you mean like Kobie Bryant is paid more than the Bench players... Or Miguel Cabrera makes more than the second string First Baseman... LIKE THAT...

Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs

JimMe wrote:

Oh... you mean like Kobie Bryant is paid more than the Bench players... Or Miguel Cabrera makes more than the second string First Baseman... LIKE THAT...

Yeah.

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

JimMe wrote:

Oh... you mean like Kobie Bryant is paid more than the Bench players... Or Miguel Cabrera makes more than the second string First Baseman... LIKE THAT...

Your point exactly?

dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

LAPhil wrote:

And there's also a supply and demand factor here. If an employer needs a few highly skilled workers he will most likely be willing them a higher wage than for a low-skilled job for which workers may be a dime a dozen. Another fact of economics which liberals continually refuse to acknowledge.

Exactly. Gray Chevrolet in Port Orchard doesn't pay the H.S. kid who sweeps the floor the same hourly wage as they pay their top mechanics. The trouble with the Libs is that they're willing to flip burgers after earning a college degree but think they should be paid a "living wage" for doing so. And don't even think of saying that burger flipping is all that's out there to do after Kevyn, Raylan and KHH1 have told us over and over how wonderful Obama's economy is doing and how the unemployment rate is at 5.5%. It'd just break their little hearts to hear that.

robert66

dennisimoto wrote:

Exactly. Gray Chevrolet in Port Orchard doesn't pa... (show quote)

If they are not paid a living wage then they will end up receiving government assistance to live. The business is then the one creating the welfare problem.

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

robert66 wrote:

If they are not paid a living wage then they will end up receiving government assistance to live. The business is then the one creating the welfare problem.

TOUGH! It's not the employer's responsibility to be Daddy or Mommy to his employees and to make sure their needs are taken care of. If we want to give them a safety net then it makes more sense to have the government take care of it because then it's not all on the back of a business which in many cases consists of just one person. Another point stubborn liberals refuse to acknowledge.

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

dennisimoto wrote:

Exactly. Gray Chevrolet in Port Orchard doesn't pa... (show quote)

The 5.5% figure is also distorted because it doesn't take into account the number of workers who have given up trying to find work and are no longer counted in the unemployment numbers. The total percentage of unemployed people when you count the entire population of those who are capable of working is actually closer to 10%.

dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

robert66 wrote:

If they are not paid a living wage then they will end up receiving government assistance to live. The business is then the one creating the welfare problem.

THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS! THEY LIVE AT HOME! When will you lunatic Libs get the first clue??? If they're trying to raise a family on McDonald wages they have more problems than what the @#$!# minimum wage is. SSHHeeesh!!

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

dennisimoto wrote:

THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS! THEY LIVE AT HOME! When will you lunatic Libs get the first clue??? If they're trying to raise a family on McDonald wages they have more problems than what the @#$!# minimum wage is. SSHHeeesh!!

Even if they're college graduates, the employer is not responsible for the care and feeding of his employees. Suppose he never hires them in the first place or has to let them go? Where does that leave the living wage argument? It's as simple as this: if you go to work for me and I pay you what we mutually agree to be acceptable, then we have a contractual agreement, and neither the government nor anyone else has any business sticking their nose in it.

beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W

LAPhil wrote:

Even if they're college graduates, the employer is not responsible for the care and feeding of his employees. Suppose he never hires them in the first place or has to let them go? Where does that leave the living wage argument? It's as simple as this: if you go to work for me and I pay you what we mutually agree to be acceptable, then we have a contractual agreement, and neither the government nor anyone else has any business sticking their nose in it.

I think you lost most of these folks when you used the words "responsible" and "simple". I get the impression that most of them think the purpose of a business is to employ people and fund government. They simply refuse to accept that a business' sole purpose is to profit.

One poster said there should be no MW....He's exactly right. Wages should be set by what the market will bear, not what the government says you're worth. The poor and middle class would be better off without MW, they'd both make more.

JimMe

robert66 wrote:

If they are not paid a living wage then they will end up receiving government assistance to live. The business is then the one creating the welfare problem.

I proclaimed 20 years ago - and I still hold it's true, it's just taking longer than I expected - there will be need to be an ECONOMIC DEPRESSION worse than the 1930's - so that a person can own a house and car and raise a family while working at a McDonalds SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE TYPE OF WORK THE AVERAGE PERSON WILL HAVE AVAILABLE...

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

dennisimoto wrote:

There should not actually BE any minimum wage, state OR federal. "I have a job that I need willing workers to do. It pays$xx.00/hour." Want it? Sign here. Don't want it? Step aside so the guy behind you can sign up. What happens next is strictly up to you. We used to understand what, "work your way up," meant. Today everyone wants to have a job at the top handed to them. "Work," has become a 4-letter word rather than an opportunity to be appreciated.

Worded perfectly

ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

lpnmajor wrote:

How many college graduates are out of work? How many NEW graduates can't find jobs in their field of study? How many college graduates are working minimum wage jobs? How many jobs, created in the last 6 years, are NOT minimum wage jobs?

Reality is a bitch. .......

Points in case... Sorry

How many NEW graduates can't find jobs in their field of study?