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Oct 3, 2013 10:15:15   #
vernon
 
i think parties should be outlawed and have a strict term limit on congress.if that cant be worked out then we should do away with the 17th amendment

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Oct 3, 2013 12:40:53   #
John Deere
 
vernon wrote:
i think parties should be outlawed and have a strict term limit on congress.if that cant be worked out then we should do away with the 17th amendment


We'd be better off if there weren't any political parties. We would also be better off with term limits on congress. WE'D BE ALOT BETTER OFF IF THE SUPREME COURT HAD TERM LIMITS OR IF THE PEOPLE COULD VOTE THEM OUT EVERY 4 YEARS!

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Oct 3, 2013 12:52:39   #
mmccarty12 Loc: Zionsville, Indiana
 
John Deere wrote:
We'd be better off if there weren't any political parties.
As long as you have two or more groups of people with differences of opinions on any singular topic you will have political parties. There is no way around this.

John Deere wrote:
We would also be better off with term limits on congress.
Well, since the people vote the representatives into office, only the people can vote them out. That should be what limits terms, but as long as there is a politician who can convince the people s/he is working to further their interests s/he will continue to be elected. Gerrymandering does not help the cause. If there is no chance for someone from the opposition party to get elected in a certain area, there is no need for spending money in that particular area regardless of the veracity or integrity of the message you put forth. I am all for term limits myself because I do not think politics should be a career, but something like jury duty. Everyone can be called to do it, no one wants to be there, everyone wants to get it over with as soon as possible and everyone hopes they will never be called again. Politicians like the power. If WE, the people, revoke that power, then there will be no long running politicians. We can only do that through voting our consciences not along party affiliations. Unfortunately, that will never happen. Many people think they are one and the same, but they are not. Others vote the same way year after year because they refuse to listen to the message of the "opposition" for the sole reason that it is the opposition. Too many people are unwilling to listen to the other side for the most petty reason of all, they MAY NOT believe 100% as we do.

John Deere wrote:
WE'D BE ALOT BETTER OFF IF THE SUPREME COURT HAD TERM LIMITS OR IF THE PEOPLE COULD VOTE THEM OUT EVERY 4 YEARS!
As the members of the Supreme Court are appointed for life, mainly because the average lifespan during that time was not close to what it is today, it was not considered an issue. That is something even I can agree the Founding Fathers were rather short-sighted on. As they are selected as Candidates by the President and Approved upon by the Senate, that part of the system is fine, in my book. But, yes, we need to have term limits on SCOTUS.

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Oct 3, 2013 16:43:35   #
John Deere
 
mmccarty12 wrote:
As the members of the Supreme Court are appointed for life, mainly because the average lifespan during that time was not close to what it is today, it was not considered an issue. That is something even I can agree the Founding Fathers were rather short-sighted on. As they are selected as Candidates by the President and Approved upon by the Senate, that part of the system is fine, in my book. But, yes, we need to have term limits on SCOTUS.


The problem I have with political parties is that when a good candidate gets sent to Washington DC, republican or democrat, the established congress persons get with this candidate and TELL them how things are really going to work in DC. If the candidate doesn't adhere to the party line, they will end up as a one termer. This seems to affect the democrats more than the republicans, but there are some hard core RINOs in DC.

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Oct 4, 2013 02:21:42   #
Molly
 
John Deere wrote:
If I had the same policy I had 8 years ago it would cost me 4 time more now than it did 8 years ago. You even admitted your insurance has been going up for the last 8 years. Obama has been sitting in the White house for the last 5. How come the rates haven't gone done at all for the last 5 years? You said that Obama care was to stop this. Why hasn't there been a huge drop in the rates now that Oct. 1 has gone by? The rates will NEVER drop and continue to go up and worse yet, now everyone is forced to have this crap, except if you work for Obama's government then you can have a Cadillac policy paid for by the tax payers. Since you think Obama care is so great, how about paying for my health care?
If I had the same policy I had 8 years ago it woul... (show quote)


I probably already am...

I kid I kid...

You make my point beautifully.... it hasn't started yet. This is the first year and my rates, for the first time in 8 years, hasn't changed. My prescription costs have gone WAY down. See... it hasn't started and just because rates were posted a few days ago doesn't mean everything has started and is up and running and we have ACTUAL results. See how that works? How it must start for people to see one way or the other? And that's just for the parts that haven't fully gone into effect.. the ones that have have been a huge benefit to me already.

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Oct 4, 2013 02:23:39   #
Molly
 
ABBAsFernando wrote:
Democrats are COMMUNISTS are LIBERALS and as such are card carrying members of the Brotherhood of Darkness.

Isaiah 32

King James Version (KJV)

5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.

6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.

7 The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.

8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.

The churl is a miser that could be translated into banker. Many Bankers are indeed VILE individuals. The Brotherhood of Darkness is led by CAIN himself. Filled to the brim with EVIL. They love money even more than POWER!

I do not believe Democrats are for anybody but themselves, PERIOD!
i Democrats are COMMUNISTS are LIBERALS and as su... (show quote)


Please hit me upside the head with that Bible you want to pick pieces out of while you blatantly ignore others. Hypocrite.. just like so many Republicans these days.

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Oct 4, 2013 09:39:05   #
mmccarty12 Loc: Zionsville, Indiana
 
Molly wrote:
I probably already am...

I kid I kid...

You make my point beautifully.... it hasn't started yet. This is the first year and my rates, for the first time in 8 years, hasn't changed. My prescription costs have gone WAY down. See... it hasn't started and just because rates were posted a few days ago doesn't mean everything has started and is up and running and we have ACTUAL results. See how that works? How it must start for people to see one way or the other? And that's just for the parts that haven't fully gone into effect.. the ones that have have been a huge benefit to me already.
I probably already am... br br I kid I kid... br... (show quote)

For every story like yours with positive, in your view, outcomes, there is a tale that tells the opposite story. Just because you have a positive experience does not mean all have or will.

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Oct 4, 2013 10:01:02   #
John Deere
 
Molly wrote:
I probably already am...

I kid I kid...

You make my point beautifully.... it hasn't started yet. This is the first year and my rates, for the first time in 8 years, hasn't changed. My prescription costs have gone WAY down. See... it hasn't started and just because rates were posted a few days ago doesn't mean everything has started and is up and running and we have ACTUAL results. See how that works? How it must start for people to see one way or the other? And that's just for the parts that haven't fully gone into effect.. the ones that have have been a huge benefit to me already.
I probably already am... br br I kid I kid... br... (show quote)


Why do you keep thinking it's OK for some people to have a 1 year grace period to prepare and others don't get that? Why do you think it's OK for government employees to keep their Cadillac insurance while everyone else is forced to take Obama care. Even Obama isn't going to use his very own health care law. And what about the death panels? Obama himself said that health care should be denied to people after they reach a certain age. You keep ignoring this.

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