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Mar 27, 2015 19:29:16   #
jelun
 
JW wrote:
The Doxology? You must be kidding. The one you refer to is a directive. It tells the believer to keep the love for God ever present in his mind and heart and reflect His love in all the actions of his life. It is not a justification for everything he does.

Let me guess, you are either an atheist or a homosexual and you are trying desperately to find some means to bring Christianity down to your level where you can find cause to dismiss its criticism of your lifestyle.

Better luck next time.

I am an agnostic so Christianity is merely an area of study to me but at least I approach it honestly. You might try the same.
The Doxology? You must be kidding. The one you r... (show quote)


I don't know about agnostic, you are pretty defensive about a religion you claim to be seperate from.
I don't think any religion is worthwhile.
They are lifestyles developed for the ignorant to sooth them from fear.
That comfort should no longer be necessary.
Quite frankly, the way I live my life if none of your business and I could not care less about the details of yours.
And Honey? There are plenty of Christians who are homosexual and/or support the science that says that homosexuals are "born that way". Thank you, Lady Gaga.

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Mar 27, 2015 20:16:30   #
Antisocialist Loc: Florida
 
jelun wrote:
It's no wonder people say that all terrorists are Muslim when we don't name it when it is anyone other than a Muslim


You are extraordinarily stupid, as is the 'author' of that hit piece.

The guy in N.O was not running around yelling 'Praise Jesus' as he was trying to hack people. Compare that to the incessant 'Allahu Akbar' the mudlsimes yell as they begin slaughtering people.

Seriously, grow a brain.

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Mar 28, 2015 07:14:12   #
jelun
 
Antisocialist wrote:
You are extraordinarily stupid, as is the 'author' of that hit piece.

The guy in N.O was not running around yelling 'Praise Jesus' as he was trying to hack people. Compare that to the incessant 'Allahu Akbar' the mudlsimes yell as they begin slaughtering people.

Seriously, grow a brain.


You are 100% correct. Mr. White was not yelling his adoration of Jesus as he commited his crimes. That is a cultural thing.
In the US, some Christians pronouce God as good when people they know don't get killed in tornadoes...they celebrate that some other poor family lost their members and home instead.
Some Christians hail allegiance to Jesus for a pet being cured of arthritis while ignoring the thousands of humans who went hungry that day.
It is irrational, faith is faith.
Not a one of you has been thoughtful enough to understand that the point to the post is to aid just a few people who don't get it that all religions spark a rivalry and (just like nationalism) negative acts and competition.

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Mar 28, 2015 15:57:45   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
jelun wrote:
You are 100% correct. Mr. White was not yelling his adoration of Jesus as he commited his crimes. That is a cultural thing.
In the US, some Christians pronouce God as good when people they know don't get killed in tornadoes...they celebrate that some other poor family lost their members and home instead.
Some Christians hail allegiance to Jesus for a pet being cured of arthritis while ignoring the thousands of humans who went hungry that day.
It is irrational, faith is faith.
Not a one of you has been thoughtful enough to understand that the point to the post is to aid just a few people who don't get it that all religions spark a rivalry and (just like nationalism) negative acts and competition.
You are 100% correct. Mr. White was not yelling hi... (show quote)



Your driveling and irrational ideology of how you think is diametrically opposed to the slightest shred of reality.

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Mar 28, 2015 16:05:24   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
jelun wrote:
I don't know about agnostic, you are pretty defensive about a religion you claim to be seperate from.
I don't think any religion is worthwhile.
They are lifestyles developed for the ignorant to sooth them from fear.
That comfort should no longer be necessary.
Quite frankly, the way I live my life if none of your business and I could not care less about the details of yours.
And Honey? There are plenty of Christians who are homosexual and/or support the science that says that homosexuals are "born that way". Thank you, Lady Gaga.
I don't know about agnostic, you are pretty defen... (show quote)


I would argue not Christians that are homosexuals. God is not mocked. You amazingly post your ideology as if it were facts or truths. Maybe mamma just did to many drugs, or you sniffing glue.

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Mar 28, 2015 16:08:31   #
Kevyn
 
jelun wrote:
It's no wonder people say that all terrorists are Muslim when we don't name it when it is anyone other than a Muslim...


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Surprise! Another Christian Terrorist
Did you hear about the man who entered New Orleans’ airport with explosives and a machete? No? Well, you would have if he’d been Muslim.
A Muslim American man carrying a duffel bag that holds six homemade explosives, a machete, and poison spray travels to a major U.S. airport. The man enters the airport, approaches the TSA security checkpoint, and then sprays two TSA officers with the poison. He then grabs his machete and chases another TSA officer with it.

This Muslim man is then shot and killed by the police. After the incident, a search of the attacker’s car by the police reveals it contained acetylene and oxygen tanks, two substances that, when mixed together, will yield a powerful explosive.
If this scenario occurred, there’s zero doubt that this would be called a terrorist attack. Zero. It would make headlines across the country and world, and we would see wall-to-wall cable news coverage for days. And, of course, certain right-wing media outlets, many conservative politicians, and Bill Maher would use this event as another excuse to stoke the flames of hate toward Muslims.

Well, last Friday night, this exact event took place at the New Orleans airport—that is, except for one factual difference: The attacker was not Muslim. Consequently, you might be reading about this brazen assault for the first time here, although this incident did receive a smattering of media coverage over the weekend.

The man who commited this attack was Richard White, a 63-year-old former Army serviceman who has long been retired and living on Social Security and disability checks. He was reportedly a devout Jehovah’s Witness.

Given the facts that a man armed with explosives and weapons traveled to an airport and only attacked federal officers, you would think that the word “terrorism” would at least come up as a possibility, right? But it’s not even mentioned.

Instead, law enforcement was quick to chalk this incident up to the attacker’s alleged “mental health issues.” That was pretty amazing police work considering this conclusion came within hours of the attack. There was no mention by police that they had even explored whether White had issues with the federal government stemming from his military service, if there was any evidence he held anti-government views, etc.

Perhaps Mr. White truly was mentally ill. Interviews with his neighbors, however, don’t even give us a hint that he had mental problems. Rather they described White as a “meek” and “kind” man who a few had spoken to just days before the incident and everything seemed fine. You would think these neighbors would at least note that White had a history of mental illness if it was so apparent.

Now I’m not saying definitively that I believe Mr. White was a terrorist. My point is twofold. One is that if White had been a Muslim, the investigation into his motivation by the media and maybe even the police would have essentially been over once his faith had been ascertained. If a Muslim does anything wrong, it’s assumed to be terrorism. (Apparently we Muslims can’t be mentally ill.)

In contrast, when a non-Muslim engages in a violent attack, even on federal government employees, law enforcement and the media immediately look to the person’s mental history, not possible terrorist motivations.

No wonder so many parrot the line, “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.” When the press uses the word terrorism only in connection with the actions of Muslims, the average person would assume that’s the case. However, as I have written about before, in recent years overwhelmingly the terrorist attacks in United States and Europe have been committed by non-Muslims.

If White had been a Muslim, the investigation into his motivation would have essentially been over once his faith had been ascertained.
My second point is that this could have in fact been act of terrorism. White clearly targeted only the TSA officers. He didn’t assault others in the airport, such as the passengers waiting on line at the security checkpoint. And for those unfamiliar, there has been a great deal of animus directed at the TSA by some conservatives and libertarians. Simply Google the words “stop the TSA” and you will see pages of articles denouncing the TSA as an organization hell bent on depriving Americans of our liberty.

For example, Alex Jones’ Infowars website is filled with anti-TSA articles claiming that the TSA’s goal is not to prevent terrorism but to “harass” travelers and get into “our pants.” Glen Beck warned in the past that the TSA was potentially becoming President Obama’s “private army” with the goal being to take away our liberties.

And in 2012, Senator Rand Paul lashed out against the TSA for what he viewed as the agency’s improper treatment of him. In fact after the incident, Paul penned an op-ed denouncing the TSA, writing that “it is infuriating that this agency feels entitled to revoke our civil liberties while doing little to keep us safe.”
Even more alarmingly, the attacks on the TSA have not been limited to words. In October 2012, Paul Ciancia traveled to LAX, where he took out a rifle from his bag and shot two TSA officers, killing one. Ciancia had written anti-government tracts in the past and was—to little media fanfare—actually charged months later with an act of terrorism.

Given this climate, how can the police not even mention that they investigated the possibility of terrorism and ruled it out? I spoke with Colonel John Fortunato, the spokesperson for Jefferson County Sherriff’s Office, which is the agency in charge of the investigation. Fortunato explained that due to state law, they couldn’t release any additional information regarding White’s mental illness or reveal information regarding any treatment he may or may not have undergone.
When I asked Fortunato if they had investigated White’s digital footprint to ascertain whether he had visited any anti-government websites or had searched his residence to see if he possessed an anti-government literature or made or written anti-government statements, he gave me what sounded like a boiler plate response that the investigation has revealed no affiliation to any outside groups. Fortunato expressed his confidence that White had acted alone and that no ties to any terror groups. But he added that we will never truly know what motivated White given he died before being questioned.
But part of me actually believes that there are some in the media and law enforcement who prefer to use the term terrorism only when it applies to a Muslim.
Why? Because it’s easy to do. Muslims are viewed by many as the “other,” not as fellow Americans. But discussing domestic terrorism carried out by fellow Americans is at best, uncomfortable, and at worst, undermines the narrative that some in our country have a vested interest in advancing.

I’m not sure what will change this mindset, but if we want to truly keep Americans safe, law enforcement and the media need to understand that terrorism is not just a Muslim thing.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/24/surprise-another-christian-terrorist.html
It's no wonder people say that all terrorists are ... (show quote)

Why arn't moderate Christians denouncing this attack? Not a word of apology from the Vatican or heads of any major churches.

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Mar 28, 2015 16:42:32   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
jelun wrote:
You are 100% correct. Mr. White was not yelling his adoration of Jesus as he commited his crimes. That is a cultural thing.
In the US, some Christians pronouce God as good when people they know don't get killed in tornadoes...they celebrate that some other poor family lost their members and home instead.
Some Christians hail allegiance to Jesus for a pet being cured of arthritis while ignoring the thousands of humans who went hungry that day.
It is irrational, faith is faith.
Not a one of you has been thoughtful enough to understand that the point to the post is to aid just a few people who don't get it that all religions spark a rivalry and (just like nationalism) negative acts and competition.
You are 100% correct. Mr. White was not yelling hi... (show quote)
What exactly is your point in posting this? A lone wolf Jehovah's Witness going off the deep end does not speak for Christianity as a whole. In order to justify the moral equivalence you seek, you need to confirm that the Christian religion has amassed large organizations of terrorists bent on converting the world to Christianity.

If you are shooting for moral equivalence, this is an epic fail.

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Mar 28, 2015 18:47:55   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Kevyn wrote:
Why arn't moderate Christians denouncing this attack? Not a word of apology from the Vatican or heads of any major churches.



Jehovah wittiness are not Christians, they do not follow biblical teachings.
First Christians believe in one God

The witness are polytheism, they do not reconized Jesus as God, but as Michael the arch angle.

The deity of Christ is what is the Christian faith

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Mar 28, 2015 22:41:05   #
JW
 
jelun wrote:
I don't know about agnostic, you are pretty defensive about a religion you claim to be seperate from.
I don't think any religion is worthwhile.
They are lifestyles developed for the ignorant to sooth them from fear.
That comfort should no longer be necessary.
Quite frankly, the way I live my life if none of your business and I could not care less about the details of yours.
And Honey? There are plenty of Christians who are homosexual and/or support the science that says that homosexuals are "born that way". Thank you, Lady Gaga.
I don't know about agnostic, you are pretty defen... (show quote)


Not personally defensive at all. Just tired of you people with your self centered agendas polluting the air with your ignorant attacks on things you clearly can't understand.

How you live your life is irrelevant to me. Your politics affects my life and that invites me into your motivations and that allows me to enquire. Apparently I was correct and once more we have a political queer trying to hide his propaganda behind a wall of ignorant pronouncements.

I find it revealing that you condemn people's dependence on religion as unnecessary but proclaim homosexuality as necessary. Frankly, I don't see either one as necessary but at least religion has some benefit to society.

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Apr 4, 2015 12:23:05   #
jelun
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Jehovah wittiness are not Christians, they do not follow biblical teachings.
First Christians believe in one God

The witness are polytheism, they do not reconized Jesus as God, but as Michael the arch angle.

The deity of Christ is what is the Christian faith


Funny, that is not what the Jehovah Witness members I have known have prosthelytized.
It is also not what an unbiased website documents.
http://www.religionfacts.com/jehovahs_witnesses/beliefs.htm
Christianity has a mighty big tent.

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Apr 5, 2015 16:34:36   #
jelun
 
Antisocialist wrote:
You are extraordinarily stupid, as is the 'author' of that hit piece.

The guy in N.O was not running around yelling 'Praise Jesus' as he was trying to hack people. Compare that to the incessant 'Allahu Akbar' the mudlsimes yell as they begin slaughtering people.

Seriously, grow a brain.


I'm guessing that these folks didn't yell "Praise Jesus" as they went to implement their murderous plan.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/army-god-6-modern-day-christian-terrorist-groups-you-never-hear-about



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