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Mar 25, 2015 12:18:14   #
ritzbitzcookie Loc: Redding, CA
 
Can u imagine when u do ur tax returns and u get the amount of what u made that year or even more? I can. The only way for that to happen is we get out of the negative and go positive. Now ur asking how can we get into the positive. Simple really, cut spending in half and keep taxes were they are until the debt gets past a certain point. Which at that point the taxes get lowered and this keeps going until we are out of the negative. Now the government would be getting the money from sales tax, and im all for a 1% income tax to boost the growth for a while. After we get say 100 billion saved up, throw 50 billion to other countries. Which they will have to pay back with interest. So that 50 billion turned into even more income for the country. Then say we reach 1 trillion saved up. Throw 500 billion to foreign countries and even more income for the country because of interest. So u could be making 20k a year and could be getting 20k+ on tax returns. What do you think?

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Mar 25, 2015 13:56:32   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
ritzbitzcookie wrote:
Can u imagine when u do ur tax returns and u get the amount of what u made that year or even more? I can. The only way for that to happen is we get out of the negative and go positive. Now ur asking how can we get into the positive. Simple really, cut spending in half and keep taxes were they are until the debt gets past a certain point. Which at that point the taxes get lowered and this keeps going until we are out of the negative. Now the government would be getting the money from sales tax, and im all for a 1% income tax to boost the growth for a while. After we get say 100 billion saved up, throw 50 billion to other countries. Which they will have to pay back with interest. So that 50 billion turned into even more income for the country. Then say we reach 1 trillion saved up. Throw 500 billion to foreign countries and even more income for the country because of interest. So u could be making 20k a year and could be getting 20k+ on tax returns. What do you think?
Can u imagine when u do ur tax returns and u get t... (show quote)


Its being done now, only we are the ones doing the borrowing ;)

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Mar 25, 2015 14:01:30   #
ritzbitzcookie Loc: Redding, CA
 
the waker wrote:
Its being done now, only we are the ones doing the borrowing ;)

Yes, while if we were lending instead of borrowing, we would able to do this very stably.

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Mar 25, 2015 14:02:32   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
the waker wrote:
Its being done now, only we are the ones doing the borrowing ;)


It's because we have, "Taxation without representation." That started a party in Boston, MA many years ago but they were all drinking tea vs. alcohol so it was pretty low key. Resulted in a revolution that has had quite an impact on the rest of the planet though. We really need to remove our Senators and Congresspeople en masse and start over.

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Mar 25, 2015 14:07:27   #
ritzbitzcookie Loc: Redding, CA
 
dennisimoto wrote:
It's because we have, "Taxation without representation." That started a party in Boston, MA many years ago but they were all drinking tea vs. alcohol so it was pretty low key. Resulted in a revolution that has had quite an impact on the rest of the planet though. We really need to remove our Senators and Congresspeople en masse and start over.


I also believe that, but its also the party's too. Now we do have some good ones in there. But we need humble people in there. But if we can get rid of the debt and go positive, then give foreign some of that money with interest. Then comes the big problem, GREED! So we would need to have simple regulation that people cannot touch it without the peoples consent.

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Mar 25, 2015 14:15:30   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
dennisimoto wrote:
It's because we have, "Taxation without representation." That started a party in Boston, MA many years ago but they were all drinking tea vs. alcohol so it was pretty low key. Resulted in a revolution that has had quite an impact on the rest of the planet though. We really need to remove our Senators and Congresspeople en masse and start over.


I agree, but how?
All three branches of government have become corrupt to some degree, that there are no longer any "checks and balance" in our system.
No one is accountable for they're actions anymore. At least there used to be a fall guy, now there's so much corruption and stone walling of investigations, people have become numb to it, complacent to tyrannical activities.
We need to go back to our state choosing the Senators, instead of uninformed and easily lied to populist, like back in the early 1900's.
It all starts w/ accountability.

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Mar 25, 2015 14:29:19   #
ritzbitzcookie Loc: Redding, CA
 
the waker wrote:
I agree, but how?
All three branches of government have become corrupt to some degree, that there are no longer any "checks and balance" in our system.
No one is accountable for they're actions anymore. At least there used to be a fall guy, now there's so much corruption and stone walling of investigations, people have become numb to it, complacent to tyrannical activities.
We need to go back to our state choosing the Senators, instead of uninformed and easily lied to populist, like back in the early 1900's.
It all starts w/ accountability.
I agree, but how? br All three branches of govern... (show quote)


Well we can make the accountability a reality, and its simple, NSA. We need a President give an executive order to the NSA stating, U are to cease all spying of the people and u are to spy on all personal of Congress, Supreme Court, and even me and make everything, besides military sensitive information, public. Then the Accountability is a successful. Then the up roar of all the politicians begin.

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Mar 25, 2015 14:58:23   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
ritzbitzcookie wrote:
Well we can make the accountability a reality, and its simple, NSA. We need a President give an executive order to the NSA stating, U are to cease all spying of the people and u are to spy on all personal of Congress, Supreme Court, and even me and make everything, besides military sensitive information, public. Then the Accountability is a successful. Then the up roar of all the politicians begin.


He was supposed to do that in 2008, no uproar though. Instead the NSA is in the process of constructing a monstrous facility in New Mexico (w/ our tax dollars)because they couldn't store enough information about us(so much for the "patriot act" being temporary).
The "freedom of information act" was supposed to make things public, but the white house has more or less exempted themselves from it.
The people have become a joke to this administration, and for good reason.

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Mar 25, 2015 15:03:13   #
ritzbitzcookie Loc: Redding, CA
 
The people are waking up finally though. Plus the majority of the military personnel are just waiting and listening for the people to say, "We r done."

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Mar 26, 2015 08:56:40   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
DamnYANKEE wrote:
Me thinks we NEED , another REVOLUTION


You might not be too far off there, even as we speak, our benevolent leaders are practicing drills in 11 states for civil unrest.
I wonder, if we did revolt, and started a new country out of the ashes, would we still be responcible for the old countries debt?

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Mar 26, 2015 09:01:27   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
DamnYANKEE wrote:
Having trouble spelling YOU and YOUR ??? <<< see example :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Easy now he's a newby, give him a couple of posts under his belt.
You remember how it is, the fingers don't type as fast as the brain thinks.
Heck, mine still don't, and don't get me started w/ spell check :shock: :-D

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