It's amazing the lies the Republican leaders feed to their devoted fans. Healthcare is a complex matter, requiring complex solutions. ACA is one such example and because if it's complexity it will be impossible to attain a true assessment of the plan before its even implemented. Everything up to then is guess work.

I'm glad the Republicans are loosing this fight. Me and millions of Americans want to give Obamacare a fair chance because the system we have now, the system the Republicans are trying to preserve really sucks.

no thanks on land but you can look up the supreme court ruling on the ACA and it will explain what i was referring to in earlier post. It seems that Judge Roberts could not find it constitutional as a healthcare bill due the commerce clause in the constitution. So to make it constitutional he viewed it as a tax and ruled that it was constitutional,"as a tax". Which both the senate and the President said it was not a tax. I was going to put the entire ruling here but it was 193 pages and I thought that was a bit much.
When I said he rewrote I didn't mean literally. The point is that as a healthcare bill it is not constitutional because the government cannot make you buy anything, but it can tax you till the cows come home.

Willy-- You have to understand the mindset of the person who wrote you the reply indicating you need to learn the Constitution. In their world, there is the all-knowing, all-powerful and most-benevolent god of Big Government whose edicts are not to be questioned, but rather obeyed without reservation. In their world, there is no such thing as individual liberty, unalienable rights or the ability to acquire property through hard work, setting goals and providing products people want to purchase. After all, such non-conformist thinking only cheats those who have failed at life's lottery. If you took the time to read Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto, you would know their bible comes in two parts much like the Christian Bible, but without all the "mind-warping, anti-gay and misogynist indoctrination".

To answer your question, in the above world, the government can force you to do anything it pleases. If you happen to disagree with Obama's desire to double your health care premiums while rationing care, it only proves you're a racist, right-wing, tea-bagging fanatic -- like me. :-)

Have a pleasant evening and keep smiling - you'll ruin some grouch's day!

I just heard there were only 1100 who inquired about it on the first day. it will give 15% of the Pop the chance to have healthcare but, it is not a good thing and I think they are pushing it to make a crisis,"Never let a crisis go to waste" Rahim Emanuel
the more attention that the shutdown is getting the less attention the IRS, fast and furious, Bengazhi, the NSA, are going to get. it's simple they lie, deny and deflect. this is the deflect strategy. the shutdown won't hurt alot but it could if it went on for long. But they will tell us how bad it is hurting people, and don't get me wrong I feel for those that are out of work, but if they were nonessential then maybe they should have a job other than the government.

The confiscatory Affordable (? Ha, ha) Care Act (ObamaCare) was designed to fail, according the accusation of one man (Jud Anglin who runs a health care business). He contends it was designed by President Obama to be unworkable so that he can install a “single payer” universal health care plan like those in Canada and the UK, which are disasters for those seeking care. In 2003 Obama declared in a speech at a AFL-CIO meeting that he was a proponent of single payer universal health care.
Senator Orrin Hatch warned that politicians “are going to throw their hands in the air and say ‘It’s not working, it’s unaffordable. And we have to go to a single-payer system where the government controls everybody’s lives…It’s already failing. And it hasn’t even triggered the big expenses yet.”
If there really are “needy” citizens who can’t afford health care or mistakenly choose unhealthy practices, they can charitably be given care. That would be much less expensive than attempting to make everyone slaves to the state.