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Mar 19, 2015 18:52:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I have to disagree with you. The Theory of Evolution can never be proven in a lab, because it would have to take millions of years to duplicate. That is the reason why it is not proven natural law. Most if not all serious scientists treat it as natural law. That's good enough for me.


Actually it can be demonstrated on a small scale. Watch this ladies explanation to a stupid senator.

http://www.upworthy.com/senator-asks-for-proof-of-evolution-discovers-he-doesnt-actually-understand-what

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Mar 19, 2015 18:58:09   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
Has anyone here actually read Darwin's The Origin of Species?

Darwin explains in chapter One the one thing that is troubling to his theory... the one thing that he cannot explain with any reasoning. Any one have a clue what that might be?

Hint...eyeballs...check it out

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Mar 19, 2015 19:01:07   #
BOHICA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Absolutely it matters. You did the ultimate misquote perpetrated by creationists all the time. Its one of the ultimate. You are bought and sold by those loons. Brainwashed to the max.


Even if it was misquoted, you cannot deny that evolutionists share the same attitude. They believe evolution because they want to. Not because of any so called evidence.

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Mar 19, 2015 19:13:26   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
:) :D :) :-) :D :-D :( :?: :?: :x
Evolution is the only theory that is given the presumption of validity in the face of all new evidence. New discoveries are met with questions of how they fit in with evolution rather than the possibiity that evolution is wrong. Even relativity, the most sacred of theories, is always being challenged by new discoveries. Much of evolution 'evidence' is just serial selection.

Evolution has never been subjected to controlled laboratory experiments. Instead, observers leave, come back and say, oh, evolution has occurred when faced with species changes. That's hardly scientifically valid.

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Mar 19, 2015 19:23:51   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Can't say it any nicer than that. There comes a time to just walk away.



Hey blacksheep, are you still gathering your thoughts for a response to the 1948 prophecy? The one that specifically prophesied the exact year a few thousand years earlier, an entire population returning from the four corners of the world home from the place of their ancestors, the land that was baron and desolate, the land that became a nation? The land, people and nation that continues to fulfill prophesy?
you do know the mathematical odds of all the prophecies leading up to the year 1948 ??

Here is a second prophecy concerning the 1967 restoration , again predicted to the exact year, exact this and that?....

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

mathematical probability is something to a trillion x a 1 with a trillion zeroes x a trillion quadrillion zeros. ..

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Mar 19, 2015 19:33:31   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rodericktbeaman wrote:
:) :D :) :-) :D :-D :( :?: :?: :x
Evolution is the only theory that is given the presumption of validity in the face of all new evidence. New discoveries are met with questions of how they fit in with evolution rather than the possibiity that evolution is wrong. Even relativity, the most sacred of theories, is always being challenged by new discoveries. Much of evolution 'evidence' is just serial selection.

Evolution has never been subjected to controlled laboratory experiments. Instead, observers leave, come back and say, oh, evolution has occurred when faced with species changes. That's hardly scientifically valid.
:) :D :) :-) :D :-D :( :?: :?: :x br Evo... (show quote)


Where oh where do you guys get your information? It would be laughable if it werent so sad.

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Mar 19, 2015 19:39:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rodericktbeaman wrote:
:) :D :) :-) :D :-D :( :?: :?: :x
Evolution is the only theory that is given the presumption of validity in the face of all new evidence. New discoveries are met with questions of how they fit in with evolution rather than the possibiity that evolution is wrong. Even relativity, the most sacred of theories, is always being challenged by new discoveries. Much of evolution 'evidence' is just serial selection.

Evolution has never been subjected to controlled laboratory experiments. Instead, observers leave, come back and say, oh, evolution has occurred when faced with species changes. That's hardly scientifically valid.
:) :D :) :-) :D :-D :( :?: :?: :x br Evo... (show quote)


Every single new line of evidence related to evolution has altered it, changed it, opened up new questions about it and yes, most oftern, confirmed its basic premise. Most recently gene sequencing. You truly have to lie to yourself not to see it if, indeed, you actually look.

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Mar 19, 2015 20:06:59   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Pray tell nwtk2007, where do you get your science & facts?

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Mar 19, 2015 20:08:40   #
BOHICA
 
rodericktbeaman wrote:
Pray tell nwtk2007, where do you get your science & facts?


I believe he pulls them out of his ass.

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Mar 19, 2015 20:36:13   #
Blacksheep
 
Reading this is entertaining, like watching chimps in short pants ride little bicycles.

Evolution isn't a theory. The explanation of how it happens is still a theory. Evolution itself is a fact.

None of you seem capable of grasping that. The chimps show more intelligence.

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Mar 19, 2015 20:54:38   #
BOHICA
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Reading this is entertaining, like watching chimps in short pants ride little bicycles.

Evolution isn't a theory. The explanation of how it happens is still a theory. Evolution itself is a fact.

None of you seem capable of grasping that. The chimps show more intelligence.


No one has ever seen evolution in action. Therefore, it is not a fact. There is no evidence that it is happening, or that it ever did happen. Evolution is based on the ASSUMPTION that small changes, over time, become larger changes that result in entirely new species. There is no evidence to support this.

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Mar 19, 2015 21:25:58   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rodericktbeaman wrote:
Pray tell nwtk2007, where do you get your science & facts?


Same place you could if youd actually care to study science.

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Mar 19, 2015 21:33:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
BOHICA wrote:
No one has ever seen evolution in action. Therefore, it is not a fact. There is no evidence that it is happening, or that it ever did happen. Evolution is based on the ASSUMPTION that small changes, over time, become larger changes that result in entirely new species. There is no evidence to support this.


God youre dense. Two populations of something become separated for thousands of generations and experience different stresses. They accymulate tiny changes in their DNA over time such that they can nolonger line up with their homologues at the point of fertilization. Thus no viable zygote, no offspring, two different species. Add in another thousand generations and theres no telling what the two species will be like. Add a million generations. Get it? Thats a microexample. Unless you live a LONG time, you wont see it. But a long time later, their fossils might be found. Multiply tjat by all species and all populations world wide.

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Mar 19, 2015 21:34:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
BOHICA wrote:
I believe he pulls them out of his ass.


Like Darwin did with his finches. You DO know there was another guy concurrently formulating the same theory.

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Mar 19, 2015 22:45:07   #
Mollypitcher1
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Science never, ever declared the earth to be flat. Its one of the myths that creationists buy into.


Oh really? And what about the map makers who were considered highly learned men (scientists) of their day. Were thy spending hours showing the ends of the earth on their maps just to be "decorative?" And DENY that every scientist and medical man claimed until recently that rats and fleas caused th Plague. You can't, because it is FACT that the Plague was AIRBORN.

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