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Oct 1, 2013 21:43:11   #
dhelix33
 
When faced with the ugly historical truth about your asinine 'movement' today, this is a typical response from a bottom feeding teabagger pig with the intellect of a mosquito.

Feel free to return where you were earlier - see image below...

weneedrubio wrote:
Everything you've said in both of your last two retorts are completely fabricated bullshit. I'm done with you. Like every democrat you lie constantly and it just isn't worth talking to any of you.



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Oct 1, 2013 21:43:37   #
scottyb
 
weneedrubio wrote:
Everything you've said in both of your last two retorts are completely fabricated bullshit. I'm done with you. Like every democrat you lie constantly and it just isn't worth talking to any of you.


Well you know my issues with the movement are the same as

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Oct 1, 2013 22:13:46   #
dhelix33
 
Here is an excerpt from the linked article that describes clearly what you Dave, a delusional poop for brains, deny..

[Feel free to return where you came from after reading 'real' news - see image below]

"….According to Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution, “Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it. . . .” This is how Obamacare became the law of the land. The House passed the Senate’s version of the health care bill on March 21, 2010 by a vote of 219 to 212. The Affordable Care Act was signed into law by the president two days later.

Since then, the House Republican majority has voted 42 times to defund, repeal or otherwise hobble Obamacare. Each time, the effort dies in the Democrat-controlled Senate. The most recent vote took place on Friday in a cat-and-mouse game that will lead to a government shutdown (or worse, a first-in-the-history-of-the-republic default) if the insanity of the Republican Party isn’t cured…"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/09/23/constitutional-conservatives-ignore-the-constitution-on-obamacare/

Dave wrote:
A few simple facts:
- Obamacare was passed on a 100% partisan basis
- In the two elections since then, the American pulbic elected a majority of Republicans in the "people's house" at least in part because of Obamacare
- Obama has taken it upon himself to pick and choose what portions of the legislation he wants to implement.
- Obama and Reid refuse to even discuss any changes to that partisan legislation, other than what Obama unilaterally wanted changed, with the majority in the "people's house"

And so called journalistic outfits like the AP want to make this purely a Republican caused problem.
A few simple facts: br - Obamacare was passed on a... (show quote)



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Oct 1, 2013 22:28:03   #
scottyb
 
dhelix33 wrote:
Here is an excerpt from the linked article that describes clearly what you Dave, a delusional poop for brains, deny..

[Feel free to return where you came from after reading 'real' news - see image below]

"….According to Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution, “Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it. . . .” This is how Obamacare became the law of the land. The House passed the Senate’s version of the health care bill on March 21, 2010 by a vote of 219 to 212. The Affordable Care Act was signed into law by the president two days later.

Since then, the House Republican majority has voted 42 times to defund, repeal or otherwise hobble Obamacare. Each time, the effort dies in the Democrat-controlled Senate. The most recent vote took place on Friday in a cat-and-mouse game that will lead to a government shutdown (or worse, a firsst-in-the-history-of-the-republic default) if the insanity of the Republican Party isn’t cured…"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/09/23/constitutional-conservatives-ignore-the-constitution-on-obamacare/
Here is an excerpt from the linked article that de... (show quote)

What's your beef? You keep making great points but your mean spiritedness is slowing down reception of them. Isn't it the congress who decide what laws to put financial teeth into?

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Oct 1, 2013 23:15:35   #
dhelix33
 
I do have the capability to deliver communication using pristine prose and rhetoric. However, I respond to teabaggers in the manner they communicate.

"... slowing down reception..." ??
Trying to have a teabagger understand the simplest concept of civility and decorum is similar to explaining those concepts to a bag of bricks.

"...mean spiritedness..." ??
Unless commentary is laced with racist bat-shit crazy verbiage, teabaggers don't understand what is being said. I choose to talk as much shit as I can to them.

Scotty wrote:
What's your beef? You keep making great points but your mean spiritedness is slowing down reception of them. Isn't it the congress who decide what laws to put financial teeth into?

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Oct 1, 2013 23:23:19   #
scottyb
 
dhelix33 wrote:
I do have the capability to deliver communication using pristine prose and rhetoric. However, I respond to teabaggers in the manner they communicate.

"... slowing down reception..." ??
Trying to have a teabagger understand the simplest concept of civility and decorum is similar to explaining those concepts to a bag of bricks.

"...mean spiritedness..." ??
Unless commentary is laced with racist bat-shit crazy verbiage, teabaggers don't understand what is being said. I choose to talk as much shit as I can to them.
I do have the capability to deliver communication ... (show quote)

Once again man I just don't get the anger? Your points are spot on and I've yet to see them challenged. I tried to side with ya and I spent an hour trying to get you to not be mad.

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Oct 2, 2013 06:51:31   #
dhelix33
 
You confuse expression of frustration I present, opposed to to ignorant racist talking point diatribes that come from the sucks of teabaggers, as the same thing. They are not. I have presented detailed analysis of how completely screwed up the agenda driving and the individuals representing un-American teabaggers are -

here are the 'challedges' I have seen from stupid teabaggers to my challenge to their stupidity in this fourum…

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There were 30 Million USA Citizens without HealthCare before ObamaCare. It was suppose to insure everyone. With ObamaCare, the present Administration has recently announced there will be 30 Million USA Citizens without HealthCare. And not only have HealthCare Premiums gone up but the deductables - you know, what WE PAY - are ridiculously higher. THIS IS WHY THE FED GOV IS SHUTDOWN. BECAUSE DEMLIB-SOCIALISTS IN THE USA SENATE & OUR DEMLIB-SOCIALIST PRESIDENT HAVE PASSED A LAW THAT GIVES NOTHING MORE & COSTS EACH USA CITIZEN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS MORE PER YEAR! It's the DemLib-Socialists that have ShutDown the Fed Gov & YOU KNOW IT!!

If it is so dam good then why is congress and its staff exempt from it!!!! Why did the president (all by himself) exempt all those rich companies, it it because he just wants to tax the poor!

How do you expect Obama's Democrat party to get bigger campaign dollars from the insurance companies if they don't take in more money ?

You know nothing about the Tea Party obviously and should stop talking it is embarrassing to hear that kind of stupidity being spouted. Go to a Tea Party rally, you will not see one wealthy person there. Besides GW Bush the Tea Parties have been the most lied about entity in history.

The Tea Party is the first true grass roots organization to rise completely on it's own since the Civil War lead up brought the Republican Party and it was caused by the vast over reach of Obama, Pelosi and Reid in 2008 and specifically Obamacare. Those you mentioned had nothing to do with it. Armey has attempted to step in and has been shunned. The Tea Party train is real and for real, justifiable reasons and all the lies you tell will have no effect on it. I suggest you have an open mind because you liberals will be the first to be crushed under Obama's plan.

A few simple facts:
- Obamacare was passed on a 100% partisan basis
- In the two elections since then, the American pulbic elected a majority of Republicans in the "people's house" at least in part because of Obamacare
- Obama has taken it upon himself to pick and choose what portions of the legislation he wants to implement.
- Obama and Reid refuse to even discuss any changes to that partisan legislation, other than what Obama unilaterally wanted changed, with the majority in the "people's house"

And so called journalistic outfits like the AP want to make this purely a Republican caused problem.

Of all the tea party events I have attended I seldom hear good things about Bush except most didn't think we could get a much worse president until Obama came along. Bush was absolutely terrible but many would rather go back to that suffering than this unbearable situation under Obama.

To blame this on Republicans is to wish for a non-representative gov't which is socialism/communism and talking to these brain dead liberals will do nothing but give us a head ache. The worst people in the world are arrogant know-it-alls that are dead wrong every time they open their mouths but still keep talking and insisting that we do things their way. Obama is the epitome of that philosophy and his success depends on people like dhelix and their arrogance denies them the ability to liste, negotiate or do anything other then push their agenda down our throats.

man your so confused or are you a welfare and foodstamp creap

Everything you've said in both of your last two retorts are completely fabricated bullshit. I'm done with you. Like every democrat you lie constantly and it just isn't worth talking to any of you.
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To 'challenge' analysis I present in debate would require intelligence, stupid teabaggers have proven they come to the debate unarmed.

Teabaggers know the facts, they simply choose to revise the facts to suit their bat-shit crazy agenda. Anyone can express an opinion, but stupid teabaggers are not going to present made-up facts in talking points to me 'unchallenged'.

scottyb wrote:
Once again man I just don't get the anger? Your points are spot on and I've yet to see them challenged. I tried to side with ya and I spent an hour trying to get you to not be mad.

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Oct 2, 2013 07:50:01   #
Schuler Loc: Santa Fe NM
 
Dave" apparently you haven't been paying attention. The Republicans have been voting en mass-not to 'modify' or 'tweak' ACA-they have in fact been voting to 'kill' it outright-and the Republican (Tea Party captives) party leaders have said so repeatedly. But the real intent of the tea baggers and their rich, fascist financial supporters is the destruction of our Democracy. Defeating the ACA is just one more way they attempt to sway opinion that our government is 'bad' and they have a better answer. Oh--just what is that- Nazism-rule by 'big business'-put the military/industrial /petrochemical/banking cartels in charge? Oooops-silly me--they are already in charge--and they now want ALL of us (the working middle class)to work for peanuts and live in a box under the bridge-if you can find one that hasn't fallen down (no taxes for infrastructure). Wake up America- Tea Party conservative rule will mean the end of our Democracy and country as we have known it! And that folks IS exactly their plan!

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Oct 2, 2013 08:10:18   #
antipropaganda
 
Schuler wrote:
Dave" apparently you haven't been paying attention. The Republicans have been voting en mass-not to 'modify' or 'tweak' ACA-they have in fact been voting to 'kill' it outright-and the Republican (Tea Party captives) party leaders have said so repeatedly. But the real intent of the tea baggers and their rich, fascist financial supporters is the destruction of our Democracy. Defeating the ACA is just one more way they attempt to sway opinion that our government is 'bad' and they have a better answer. Oh--just what is that- Nazism-rule by 'big business'-put the military/industrial /petrochemical/banking cartels in charge? Oooops-silly me--they are already in charge--and they now want ALL of us (the working middle class)to work for peanuts and live in a box under the bridge-if you can find one that hasn't fallen down (no taxes for infrastructure). Wake up America- Tea Party conservative rule will mean the end of our Democracy and country as we have known it! And that folks IS exactly their plan!
Dave" apparently you haven't been paying att... (show quote)


Man both sides are working together to intentionally split the country to the point of civil war and it's working. They are going to work it so we can't own guns and provoke violence so they can instill martial law. If people stop buying products and services from big money corporations and start supporting mom and pop shops, pull their money out of national and federal banks( including federal unions) and start using small local banks. If everybody did that, the big money groups will lose power quickly and our government will have no choice but to do work differently.

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Oct 2, 2013 08:26:08   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
dhelix33 wrote:
I do happen to know quite a bit about you teabaggers. Five years ago, teabaggers seemed to emerge from nowhere, leaving journalists bewildered and the public with few reference points to understand seemingly spontaneous rallies by middle-class people seeking lower tax rates for the super-rich. But little was spontaneous about you teabaggers. Social movements that explicitly defend the interests of the rich and the almost-rich have been a recurring feature of American politics. These are rich people’s movements: bogus 'grassroots' campaigns to untax the one percent - it is nothing new. What is new is the mendacity that there is no racial component in this latest iteration since a person of color is now in the 'white house'. Especially when you hear the bigoted screeching from the sucks of teagaggers. Non- racist based agendas have been funded by the super-rich in these type 'movements' before the Obama era, before the Reagan era, and before Barry Goldwater ran for president—before, even, the New Deal.
I do happen to know quite a bit about you teabagge... (show quote)


I have no idea where you think you learned what the tea party rallies were all about, but taxing the rich was never part of any rally I observed. Smaller government, border integrity, and less overall taxation were what I witnessed. I suspect, frankly, that your impression come from the same journalists that you describe as being surprised by it. Most journalists are insulated elites concentrated on the coasts, most of the tea party rallies involved middle class people from the interior of the country.

Be that as it may, those who rally have every right to express thier political views, and those who consider themselves superior to good solid hard working Americans are far more of a problem than these tea partiers.

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Oct 2, 2013 08:28:21   #
rjoeholl
 
The democrats want to add more taxes on "health appliances" and the republicans don't want them to. So who are the evil ones? It's your Lord and Savior, Owebama and Harry Reid who refuse to negotiate. So put the blame where it should be.
dhelix33 wrote:
Because of this government shutdown today, facilitated by those certifiably ignorant, mean-spirited republicans in congress, hundreds of thousands of federal workers are now not being paid, and also do not know when they will get paid again - if at all. Their paychecks depend upon the non-existent benevolence of a few fractious extremist republican members in congress. A realization that will hit home hard when they cannot pay for housing, or their children's next meal.

However, there are 535 federal civil servants in Washington who don't have to worry about missed mortgage payments or mounting credit card debt due to this shutdown - guess who they are: the very members of congress who have ground our government to a halt. The salaries of Congress members come from a pool of mandatory funds and aren't subject to the whims of lawmakers.Their checks keep coming, no matter what. This ugly irony will not be lost on the more than 800,000 federal workers who now will not paid because of the actions of a few anal-retentive adults that continue to act like spoiled children - most who are taking home $174,000 a year in Congress, for doing absolutely NOTHING!

All I can say is - elections have consequences, and I did not vote for this pile of crap! When are people that stand in rallies saying you want to 'take America back' going to understand that your so-called 'tea party' is simply a guise for the rich to take money from you and fill their coffers? Perhaps when America 'goes back' to where you have to start going into the woods and hunt for your next meal, and grow vegetables in a field to survive?
Because of this government shutdown today, facilit... (show quote)

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Oct 2, 2013 08:30:57   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
dhelix33 wrote:
Here is an excerpt from the linked article that describes clearly what you Dave, a delusional poop for brains, deny..

[Feel free to return where you came from after reading 'real' news - see image below]

"….According to Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution, “Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it. . . .” This is how Obamacare became the law of the land. The House passed the Senate’s version of the health care bill on March 21, 2010 by a vote of 219 to 212. The Affordable Care Act was signed into law by the president two days later.

Since then, the House Republican majority has voted 42 times to defund, repeal or otherwise hobble Obamacare. Each time, the effort dies in the Democrat-controlled Senate. The most recent vote took place on Friday in a cat-and-mouse game that will lead to a government shutdown (or worse, a first-in-the-history-of-the-republic default) if the insanity of the Republican Party isn’t cured…"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/09/23/constitutional-conservatives-ignore-the-constitution-on-obamacare/
Here is an excerpt from the linked article that de... (show quote)


Your attempted insult reflects more on you than on me. Your response is not responsive to the points I made. Your reference to a Washington Post opinionated report changes no facts, and I'd again suggest, if you are seriously attempting a thoughtful review, go back and read what I wrote - and either deny the fact or explain the fact in whatever context you desire. However, should you go back to the second grade with poop references, we'll understand your intellectual level.

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Oct 2, 2013 09:12:28   #
Miss M.
 
Why don't you put the blame where it belongs?
Oh that would take some thought, le me help, it's Obama's
Miss. M :mrgreen:

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Oct 2, 2013 10:22:33   #
OldTrapper
 
dhelix33 wrote:
So you prefer white people - as I said earlier - I prefer sane people.


So you would deny him the right to freedom of association because of his preference for White people? "Self segregation" is quite common in America as can be proven by Blacks, Asians, etc. Are they all then "racists"?

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Oct 2, 2013 10:30:11   #
SouthernTide
 
dhelix33 wrote:
Because of this government shutdown today, facilitated by those certifiably ignorant, mean-spirited republicans in congress, hundreds of thousands of federal workers are now not being paid, and also do not know when they will get paid again - if at all. Their paychecks depend upon the non-existent benevolence of a few fractious extremist republican members in congress. A realization that will hit home hard when they cannot pay for housing, or their children's next meal.

However, there are 535 federal civil servants in Washington who don't have to worry about missed mortgage payments or mounting credit card debt due to this shutdown - guess who they are: the very members of congress who have ground our government to a halt. The salaries of Congress members come from a pool of mandatory funds and aren't subject to the whims of lawmakers.Their checks keep coming, no matter what. This ugly irony will not be lost on the more than 800,000 federal workers who now will not paid because of the actions of a few anal-retentive adults that continue to act like spoiled children - most who are taking home $174,000 a year in Congress, for doing absolutely NOTHING!

All I can say is - elections have consequences, and I did not vote for this pile of crap! When are people that stand in rallies saying you want to 'take America back' going to understand that your so-called 'tea party' is simply a guise for the rich to take money from you and fill their coffers? Perhaps when America 'goes back' to where you have to start going into the woods and hunt for your next meal, and grow vegetables in a field to survive?
Because of this government shutdown today, facilit... (show quote)



wow...well said dhelix!

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