KHH1

Jelun...you'll just hear some apologist BS about being too focused on race or PC.....that is one thing about racists...it is like Tourette's Syndrome...they cannot help themselves...it is who they are.........OPP is the same way....

Loki Loc: Georgia

As long as you ignore the fact that almost every black brought to the US was already a slave, made so by other blacks in Africa. This was the usual fate of the losers in the constant internecine warfare between the various tribal factions in Equatorial Africa, which was the origin of most of the slaves brought to this country. The rest were enslaved by the Muslims you so admire. Between 20 and 28 million of them over a period of time from ca. 1100 AD until basically the present, when slavery was finally outlawed in Mauritania in 1981, but only criminalized in 2007. Mauritania is majority Muslim, and black.
Four to six percent of the slaves brought to the Western Hemisphere ended up in the US. The rest, scattered through Central and South America, the Caribbean, and quite a few in Mexico, despite laws prohibiting the practice.
Why do you never castigate the Spanish and Portugese and English who were responsible for transporting almost all of the slaves to these shores? The few US flagged slave ships were, by the way, all owned by Northern shipping interests. Every one.

mcmlx

Can't believe anyone can stand to even hear his voice, much less support him.
I think that American Indians actually had a major role in the carving of Mount Rushmore.

KHH1

Answer the f-king question....did blacks build and captain ships to bring millions over to the USA with many lost at sea because of disease and sickness? Did blacks really establish the institution here in the USA for hundreds of years?...once again...I have to quit discussing black people with white cons.........

Leonard55

All the President was doing was giving us a reminder about voting rights for blacks. What we as minorities went through in the sixties. That's all period.

mcmlx

Quite right, loki. And lest anyone forget, Africa is still the continent with the most slaves to this day.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

James Hoban , as Irishman , was the architect/designer of the White House. He would have has engineers, surveyors, master carpehters , masons and other professionals working under him. These people 'built the White House" with the help of laborers. Some of which were, almost certainly, black slaves. Some were white indentured servants, some straight up employees , white and black. Would the White House have been built without slaves if that were a requirement? Yes, it would. Plenty of day labor and indentured to fill any gaps.
Where was his compliment for George Washington Carver? He created the Tuskegee Institute that was touted, was a friend of Thomas Alva Edison , Henry Ford and a great inventor. Somehow he was overlooked and a gross exaggeration substituted? President Obama does not come from a slave ancestry. His father, BHO Sr. was Kenyan born and died. His Mother was as white as the driven snow and completely European . The President has nothing in common with the Americans of slave ancestry.

mcmlx

And to remind everyone that deceased people and illegal people can vote also.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

There were not millions.....only 388,000 came to our land. While there was, according to records, 10.7 million Africans transported to the New Word, most went to the Caribbean and South America...... This is according to Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. And the ships were built by the French, Dutch, Portuguese, and Spanish. Only one ship was built in the new world, called the City of Norfolk and it was fitted out in NYC.

Departing from its home port in Europe, a typical ship made its first transition to the west coast of Africa, trading goods for a full load of slaves—people who had been seized in war, convicted of petty crimes, or simply kidnapped. On the second, or "middle," passage, the captain sailed his cargo across the Atlantic Ocean to one or more ports in the New World, where he sold his slaves and purchased or loaded goods such as sugar, rum, and molasses. On the final passage, he returned home. The Portuguese dominated the early slave trade.


Approximately 15 percent of the Africans died while in transit....but everyone forgets that the crews of these ships died at higher rates.


So, your first question, the answer is no they did not build the ships. Their skill levels were too low. They could and did build small vessels for shallow water use, but nothing that could cross the Atlantics. They did, however, by the end of the slaving business become crew members. I cannot find record of a full blooded African becoming a ship captain, but many that were mixed with the French and followers of Islam became Captains.

The percentage of loss averaged 15 percent. Many perished from disease, but suicide was high and also many perished because of revolts and self inflicted starvation.

Mind you, the business of slaves goes back to biblical times and was pervasive throughout Europe, Africa, and the Middle East. But, the business of slaves exported to the New Word was established by the Africans who sold their people. Think about it logically.... without Africans capturing and selling their people, there would not have been African slaves, but the New World would have relied solely on the flourishing Irish Slaves trades.

The Irish slave trade started when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the entire population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from around 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

The business of the slave trade is old, going back to biblical times, and Africa still has a thriving business....

peter11937 Loc: NYS

All true, however remember that the slavers were Arab Muslims. They kidnapped etc the blacks from all over the African Continent delivering them, and Ivory, to Africa's East coast. To get those 388,000 there t be sold, the Arabs killed thru abuse, mutilation, outright murder and disease approximately 4,000,000 ! Most slaving was done prior to American Independence, and bringing in "new" slaves was outlawed in many colonies prior to Independence.

KHH1

Boy oh Boy....both houses of Congress and still neutered by one man...everything from slavery to the Obama's kids.reaching for those negative emotions I see......when you feeling low...try to lower those around you...when that does not work...sink lower yourself....haha......

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Peter,

I am sorry, you are quite right. I thought I had included their involvement.... my error and thank you for point this out.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Please look at the red words quoted in your post and tell me what he meant about slaves. It is time for us to start reading the same words and it doesn't seem that you have seen those words when you quoted them.

It is past time we keep on either ranting about what he says and, in some cases, standing up for him no matter what he says.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Can you tell me the number of students from OU that were kicked out of the school? How about what happened to the furniture etc. that was moved out of that frat house. It seems that there may have been only a couple of boys accused of the whole thing although they were on a bus with others. Have you seen the young black man who is the president of some black group on the campus? He wants all this shut down so that we can get some racial peace going. He may not be a graduate but he showed me a lot more than anyone else has up to now. Megyn Kelly had him on last night and all she could do was marvel at how he feels about the situation.

mcmlx

[quote=peter11937]All true, however remember that the slavers were Arab Muslims. They kidnapped etc the blacks from all over the African Continent delivering them, and Ivory, to Africa's East coast. To get those 388,000 there t be sold, the Arabs killed thru abuse, mutilation, outright murder and disease approximately 4,000,000 ! Most slaving was done prior to American Independence, and bringing in "new" slaves was outlawed in many colonies prior to Independence.[/

And who are more in slavery than the Arab Muslim women?
I would be hard pressed to find the answer.