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The raid was a response to legal summons sent by Republic of Texas members to a Kerr County judge and bank employee, demanding they appear in the Republic's court at the Veterans and Foreign Wars building in Bryan the day the officers stormed in. Jarnecke's group, the subject of a half-hour YouTube documentary, maintains a small working government, including official currency, congress, and courts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZWcaFf9xtU"You can't just let people go around filing false documents to judges trying to make them appear in front of courts that aren't even real courts," said Kerr County sheriff Rusty Hierholzer, who led the operation.
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Texas secessionist meeting raided after members messed with a judge
By Zeke MacCormackFebruary 19, 2015
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KERRVILLE Investigators looking into phony court summonses issued to a judge and lawyer here are examining computers, phones and other items seized from Republic of Texas citizens last weekend.
Local, state and federal officers interrupted a monthly meeting of about 60 adherents of the secessionist group Saturday at a Veterans of Foreign Wars hall in Bryan, collecting the items under a search warrant.
No one was arrested and no charges have been filed. Authorities said they were investigating alleged fraud aimed at state District Judge Rex Emerson and Bill Arnold, a lawyer. Arnold defended a title company against a Republic of Texas members lawsuit in Emersons court in Kerrville.
David J. Kroupa, a chiropractor from Katy in his claimed capacity as chief justice of the international Common Law Court for the Republic of Texas had issued writs of quo warranto and mandamus for Emerson on Jan. 21 and a subpoena for Arnold on Jan. 23, ordering them to appear at hearings in Bryan.
It went real well, Kerr County Sheriff Rusty Hierholzer said of the operation that included the FBI, the Texas Attorney Generals office, Bryan police and Brazos County deputies. There was a lot of what I would call discontent, but no physical resistance.
The groups president, John H. Jarnecke of Gillespie County, called the search a fishing expedition. He said officers photographed, fingerprinted and confiscated belongings of numerous members even though only two are accused of wrongdoing.
I think they went totally overboard, he said Thursday. How is it that a supposedly free people can be subjected to intimidating, rough and highly intrusive search and seizure when assembling lawfully and peaceably?
Kroupa issued the summonses in reaction to a foreclosure case involving Sue Cammack that was litigated in Kerr County, authorities said. Jarnecke said Cammack is a Republic of Texas member from Hunt, a town in Kerr County.
Emerson had granted a summary judgment last June in favor of Fidelity Abstract & Title Co., which Cammack had sued and which Arnold represented, court records show.
Neither Cammack nor Kroupa could be reached. Emerson and Arnold each declined comment.
The summons for Emerson called on him to appear at the VFW Hall with proof of his authority for executing his claimed powers involving a foreign entity for the revenue collection of a private womans private funds without permission or lawful authority.
The document sent to Arnold accuses him of using the threat of foreclosure to try to collect from Cammack on a forged contract, conspire to take her home and life savings and disrupt her peaceful way of life.
Jarnecke, 72, said he wasnt familiar with specific details of the underlying dispute.
I know that Susie Cammack has had some difficulties with various people in Kerr County in the past few years and they figured out they could file the quo warranto and writ of mandamus, he said.
A sworn affidavit filed by Kerr County deputy Jeff McCoy in support of the search warrant alleges that Cammack, 53, and Kroupa, 59, committed the misdemeanor of simulating legal process.
The state penal codes fraud section makes it a crime to recklessly cause to be delivered to another any document that simulates a summons, complaint, judgment, or other court process with the intent to induce payment of a claim from another person; or cause another to submit to the putative authority of the document.
If charges are brought in the case, they could be filed in Kerr County or Brazos County, said Assistant Kerr County Attorney Ilse Bailey.
The search warrant issued Feb. 12 by state District Judge Keith Williams authorized collection of fingerprints, photos and DNA swabs from those at the VFW hall to prevent anyone from providing a false identity to authorities.
It also authorized officers to seize computers, cell phones and paper documents relevant to, or which describe criminal conduct or suspected criminal activity.
McCoy posed as a meeting guest before signaling other officers outside the VFW hall, which led to a four-hour ordeal, Jarnecke said.
There probably will be a lot more harassment as we move forward in international court towards getting our independence back for Texas, he said.
Hierholzer responded, I dont have any problem with them pursuing secession through legal channels, but they cant just automatically create their own country and not abide by the laws of the United States and this state.