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Sep 29, 2013 21:06:03   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
lou I can't believe you can not back this up with substance

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Sep 29, 2013 21:12:00   #
HLF
 
Professorbean1942 wrote:
Son, neither you or your "college" student understood Econ 101. As a college professor I would recomend Henry Hazlit, "Economics In One Lesson" as a quick refresher coarse. It is available in book or even audio book if you have more drive time than reading time. The one lesson is simple. "Long Term" results are all that matters.


I'm a former college professor who taught economics, and I have no idea what you're talking about. Cruz took an example from the paper of someone who was unemployed, and asserted, with absolutely no evidence, that he was a victim of Obamacare. It turns out that the guy was able to buy health care that he wouldn't have been able to afford without Obamacare. What am I missing?

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Sep 29, 2013 21:23:03   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Professor your completely missing the point Can you assure me quality health care No you cant therein lies the problem

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Sep 29, 2013 21:32:06   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Professor A question for you. I would imagine you spent 6 -10 years in school. If the government Had said to you we have to make education more affordable you will need to teach more Students and do it for less compensation. Tell me honestly what would you have done????

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Sep 29, 2013 21:34:40   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
And when that happens what do you call it.

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Sep 29, 2013 21:38:27   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
jimahrens wrote:
Ok I can agree with that. What I can"t agree with is The Affordable Care Act.I want you to tell me why you think It is so great. Not what someone filled your head with.


Never said it was great . Simply said it was Law .Holding a gun to the nations head the way Cruz and his lot are doing is WRONG and Dangerous .
The last near shutdown , downgraded the credit rating of the US , forcing Treasury to raise the interest paid on it's 10 year treasury bonds costing the US $18 billion . It also caused losses in the Global Market of $1.6 Trillion worldwide .
The consequences are dangerous and unknown for another shutdown .The nations leading economists are warning against it , yet CONSERVA-KAZEES think they're gonna collapse the economy , hit a reset button , and come out the victors . Anyone ever hear of a Pyric Victory ?

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Sep 29, 2013 21:44:30   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Dont blame the Blame any one but Federal Reserve Tey print Money as if it were Toilet paper. Both Party are guily of doing Stupid things but we cant go on spending money we don't have and that is what the ACA is going to do.aside from inferior medical care

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Sep 29, 2013 21:52:35   #
VladimirPee
 
Dangerous? Like sequester was going to shut the country down? Stop the fearmongering

Lou wrote:
Never said it was great . Simply said it was Law .Holding a gun to the nations head the way Cruz and his lot are doing is WRONG and Dangerous .
The last near shutdown , downgraded the credit rating of the US , forcing Treasury to raise the interest paid on it's 10 year treasury bonds costing the US $18 billion . It also caused losses in the Global Market of $1.6 Trillion worldwide .
The consequences are dangerous and unknown for another shutdown .The nations leading economists are warning against it , yet CONSERVA-KAZEES think they're gonna collapse the economy , hit a reset button , and come out the victors . Anyone ever hear of a Pyric Victory ?
Never said it was great . Simply said it was Law .... (show quote)

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Sep 29, 2013 21:56:42   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
You are right!This Happened before. Everyone cries but the last time yes stock marked dropped 2000 points but what they don't tell you is it was way over inflated to begin with.

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Sep 29, 2013 22:00:46   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
what you missing is yha fact Obama care is not even in effect yet

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Sep 29, 2013 22:00:57   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
jimahrens wrote:
Dont blame the Blame any one but Federal Reserve Tey print Money as if it were Toilet paper. Both Party are guily of doing Stupid things but we cant go on spending money we don't have and that is what the ACA is going to do.aside from inferior medical care


You miss the point , ACA IS LAW .THE ONLY THING that can be done about it is to REPEAL IT .
CRUZ lied , so what , that is typical; of both sides , and truth be told , no one knows the full implication until it goes into effect , as there are several human variables involved .You can not tell me absolutely that it will translate to inferior medical care , nor can you tell me that it will be a financial bust . Outside factors such as who will want to buy insurance , how will doctors react to the new rules ,what will insurance companies do to stay competitive ? YOU don't have those answers nor do I .
If you're right , then the American people will not stand for it , complain to their politicians and the process of getting 75% of State Legislatures to Repeal it will be successful .
But playing brinkmanship with the economy is foolish and stupid .
If bringing about an economic collapse is a notion being entertained by Tea party Conservatives , they should keep in mind that ALL the leading economists , who have no horse in this race are warning such a collapse will make the last one look like child's play .Unfortunately there are some like Bachmann who think the ensuing chaos will bring about The Second Coming , so LET'S DO IT ! Putting themselves in the same insane class of theological idiots in Iran .

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Sep 29, 2013 22:02:18   #
VladimirPee
 
Interesting because IMMIGRATION is LAW Obama and Democrats willfully ignore. Why don't they just repeal it instead of not enforcing it?

Lou wrote:
You miss the point , ACA IS LAW .THE ONLY THING that can be done about it is to REPEAL IT .
CRUZ lied , so what , that is typical; of both sides , and truth be told , no one knows the full implication until it goes into effect , as there are several human variables involved .You can not tell me absolutely that it will translate to inferior medical care , nor can you tell me that it will be a financial bust . Outside factors such as who will want to buy insurance , how will doctors react to the new rules ,what will insurance companies do to stay competitive ? YOU don't have those answers nor do I .
If you're right , then the American people will not stand for it , complain to their politicians and the process of getting 75% of State Legislatures to Repeal it will be successful .
But playing brinkmanship with the economy is foolish and stupid .
If bringing about an economic collapse is a notion being entertained by Tea party Conservatives , they should keep in mind that ALL the leading economists , who have no horse in this race are warning such a collapse will make the last one look like child's play .Unfortunately there are some like Bachmann who think the ensuing chaos will bring about The Second Coming , so LET'S DO IT ! Putting themselves in the same insane class of theological idiots in Iran .
You miss the point , ACA IS LAW .THE ONLY THING th... (show quote)

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Sep 29, 2013 22:05:48   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
DennisDee wrote:
Interesting because IMMIGRATION is LAW Obama and Democrats willfully ignore. Why don't they just repeal it instead of not enforcing it?


Mixing apple and oranges again eh dennis -poo , you are fast making yourself irrelevant in any reasonable debate .

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Sep 29, 2013 22:09:22   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Lou wrote:
And there it is , the trademark of a TEABAG . Gay accusations .
Lets make it short cesspool , if that's your real name then your parents are morons ....both of them .

No why don't you GFY . you're an imbecile , you've established that much .

BTW take your clown poster and stick it where the sun don't shine .

sorry about the fag sh*t. what i mean't to say is that your woman parts must run clean up to your belly-button. do you have manboobs also? read the poster and learn...those boobs will shrink inna week. just tryin` to help ya out......don't hate me

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Sep 29, 2013 22:11:10   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Lou wrote:
You miss the point , ACA IS LAW .THE ONLY THING that can be done about it is to REPEAL IT .
CRUZ lied , so what , that is typical; of both sides , and truth be told , no one knows the full implication until it goes into effect , as there are several human variables involved .You can not tell me absolutely that it will translate to inferior medical care , nor can you tell me that it will be a financial bust . Outside factors such as who will want to buy insurance , how will doctors react to the new rules ,what will insurance companies do to stay competitive ? YOU don't have those answers nor do I .
If you're right , then the American people will not stand for it , complain to their politicians and the process of getting 75% of State Legislatures to Repeal it will be successful .
But playing brinkmanship with the economy is foolish and stupid .
If bringing about an economic collapse is a notion being entertained by Tea party Conservatives , they should keep in mind that ALL the leading economists , who have no horse in this race are warning such a collapse will make the last one look like child's play .Unfortunately there are some like Bachmann who think the ensuing chaos will bring about The Second Coming , so LET'S DO IT ! Putting themselves in the same insane class of theological idiots in Iran .
You miss the point , ACA IS LAW .THE ONLY THING th... (show quote)

you are starting to make sense...kinda

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