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Feb 26, 2015 12:26:04   #
Richard94611
 
But any move to spend 20% of the budget in this way would have been blocked by Republicans.


Xavier Reign wrote:
The problem is none have them should have stopped deporting. In the last 20 years I have witnessed the construction wage drop 15 dollars an hour. If any of them would have spent 20% of their so called budget on securing the border and deportation, there would be fewer homeless and hungry, and better paying jobs. But they all sent money over seas to help other countries instead of keeping it hear. Republicans and Democrats are both at fault for that, we could learn a lot from the Swiss.

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Feb 26, 2015 12:33:30   #
Xavier Reign
 
Richard94611 wrote:
But any move to spend 20% of the budget in this way would have been blocked by Republicans.


Not all republicans are rhinos just like not all dems are donkeys. I think to refer to it best is called progressives, money hoarding power hungry jerks that are lifers. Solution= Make them all go back to being volunteers, no pay and no lobbying. "corporate america" is a corrupt america, and lawyers are only taught to bend the laws to win their case. Fact= they all squander money for political gain and favors.

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Feb 26, 2015 13:14:55   #
lusitanean
 
The violation of a law is a crime. He who commits a crime is a criminal. Ilegals violate our law whenever they set foot in our country ilegally. The law also states that those who aid and abet criminals are, ipso facto, criminal themselves. Read this: Eric Holder and Barak Hussein Redistribution of Wealth Obama A non commie. To ad insult to injury Holder is also a perjurer. And Obama is guilty of bribery. Both of these charges the highest forms of felonies. And if one counts all the other "liberals" in thr seats of power only one conclusion is possible. We have been, for the most part, governed by criminals. Again aided and abeted by the imbecilic lunatic fringe. How long can our beloved country endure?

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Check out topic: I smell a rat!!!!!
Feb 26, 2015 14:32:54   #
memartin
 
AuntiE wrote:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/25/father-of-black-teenager-murdered-by-illegal-alien-asks-do-black-lives-really-matter/

Father Of Black Teenager Murdered By Illegal Alien Asks ‘Do Black Lives Really Matter?’

The father of a black teenager murdered by an illegal immigrant asked “do black lives really matter?” in a House hearing to review the Department of Homeland Security’s policies towards “non-citizens unlawfully present in the United States.”

That father, Jamiel Shaw, and Michael Ronnebeck, the uncle of another man murdered earlier this month by an illegal immigrant, testified at Wednesday’s hearing in front of a subcommittee of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

Both men asserted that Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) lax detainment policies contributed to the death of their family members. ICE came under intense scrutiny last year when it was revealed that in 2013 the agency had released over 36,000 convicted criminal aliens from its custody. Of those, nearly 200 had committed murder.

Shaw told of his son, Jamiel Shaw II, who in May 2008 at the age of 17 was gunned down by Pedro Espinoza, a 19-year-old illegal Mexican immigrant.

“My family’s peace and freedom were stolen by an illegal alien from Mexico. He was brought here by his illegal alien parents,” Shaw told the hearing, chaired by Florida U.S. Rep. Ron DeSantis.

Shaw described that his son, a standout football and track star in Los Angeles, was walking down his own street when he was accosted by Espinoza and a friend.

Shaw said that it was proved in court that Espinoza — who was in a Latino gang — targeted his son because he was black.

“Do black lives really matter? Or does it matter only if you are shot by a white person or a white a policeman?” the elder Shaw asked during his testimony, referencing a phrase that became popular following the police-involved deaths of two black men, Michael Brown and Eric Garner.

Espinoza — who was eventually sentenced to death in the murder — had three gun charges on his record and had served only four months of an eight month sentence for assault with a deadly weapon and battery of a police officer. He was released from jail the day before he murdered Shaw.

“Why was this violent illegal alien allowed to walk the streets of America instead of being deported?” Shaw asked.

“Why was ICE not called to pick up this violent invader? We were promised that the federal government would keep us safe from violent illegal aliens?”

“I see in here black politicians, black athletes, black stars say ‘hands up, don’t shoot,”" Shaw said referencing another slogan adopted by Brown and Garner protesters. “My son was shot in the head by an illegal alien gangbanger while he lay on his back with his hands up. He still shot him through his hand and into his head and killed him.”

“The duty of the U.S. government is to always put American families first,” Shaw concluded.

The House panel then heard testimony from Ronnebeck.

His nephew, 21-year-old Grant Ronnebeck, was murdered last month while working an overnight shift at a Mesa, Ariz. convenience store.

Apolinar Altamirano, a 29-year-old illegal immigrant who claimed to have ties to the Mexican Mafia, shot Ronnebeck in the face while purchasing a pack of cigarettes.

In Aug. 2012 he was arrested along with two others after kidnapping, sexually assaulting and burglarizing a woman in her apartment.

He pleaded guilty to felony burglary and was sentenced to two years probation and turned over to ICE.

But ICE released him on bond pending a deportation hearing.

In that time, he had two orders of protection filed against him — one of which was by a women who claimed Altamirano threatened to kill her and pointed a gun at her boyfriend.

ICE was notified of the protection orders, but Altamirano “was still allowed to be free in our country,” Ronnebeck said.

“ICE should be doing its job for the American people with the America people’s safety and security first and foremost in mind,” Ronnebeck said in emotional testimony.

Also testifying Wednesday was Jessica Vaughan, a policy director at the Centers for Immigration Studies, who called ICE’s detainment policies and procedures nothing more than a “catch and release program.”

She also blamed the Obama administration for further weakening the agency’s resolve to detain and deport dangerous illegal immigrants.

“The vast majority of illegal aliens residing in the interior face no threat of deportation, regardless of when or how they arrived, or if they have been deported before,” Vaughan said in a prepared statement. “Many deportable aliens who are encountered and apprehended by Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are released soon after, even if they have come to ICE’s attention after being arrested by local authorities.”

“This state of affairs can be traced directly to policy changes put in place by the Obama administration. While administration officials claims that these policies are ‘smarter and more effective’ and allow the agencies to better focus on aliens who represent a threat to the public, in reality the intent, and certainly the result, has been the dismantlement of effective enforcement.”
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/25/father-of-black-... (show quote)


"Does a Black life really matter?" This from a criminal illegal alien allowed in this country by Barack Hussein Obama? As a White/Caucasian, I will answer that question. Your damned right it matters. God made each of us and no matter what our color, we all matter. Some matter more than others; it all depends on what kind of human we become. And this Black, being an American, certainly matters far more than a criminal illegal alien who has no rights in the United States of America but to tried, convicted and imprisoned for murder.

Another injustice for which we can thank the narcissistic sociopath, King Obama - allowing all of these illegal hardened criminals loose on our streets instead of deporting them. When are we going to say, "Enough!"? King Obama says our immigration laws are broken. NO, they are not broken; they are not being enforced. If they were, he probably wouldn't be in our country either. And remember, ICE has had its hands tied by Barack Hussein Obama who thinks that no one knows what's right but him. Truth be told, not one thing he has done since he took office illegally, is right.

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Feb 26, 2015 14:42:41   #
Zyro0713
 
alex wrote:
it made a difference to libs when Trevon Martin was shot for beat a white hispanic


Trayvon Martin, defended himself against the attack of a white Hispanic attacker!

Liberals had that all wrong as do most of Americans. he kid's' human rights were violated, but who cares? he was just some young future thug; right!?

If you were faced with an attack from "Neighborhood watch captain" Zimmerman, accosting you while you were minding your own business, what would be your reaction. Black, white or other, how would you have felt? What would you have done?

Zimmerman is a killer, and as soon as he kills a white person, the feelings about him will change.

No need to respond; you've made your feelings quite clear.

Oh, and by the way: I am not liberal!

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Feb 26, 2015 14:47:24   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Richard94611 wrote:
The statistic I was referring to was the number of deportations we have had in successive administrations. Obama's figure is considerably higher than beloved W. Bush.


That is because he has let so so so many more in. Work the whole math problem son or go back to school.

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Feb 26, 2015 14:47:40   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
Trayvon Martin, defended himself against the attack of a white Hispanic attacker!

Liberals had that all wrong as do most of Americans. he kid's' human rights were violated, but who cares? he was just some young future thug; right!?

If you were faced with an attack from "Neighborhood watch captain" Zimmerman, accosting you while you were minding your own business, what would be your reaction. Black, white or other, how would you have felt? What would you have done?

Zimmerman is a killer, and as soon as he kills a white person, the feelings about him will change.

No need to respond; you've made your feelings quite clear.

Oh, and by the way: I am not liberal!
Trayvon Martin, defended himself against the attac... (show quote)


I didn't know you were a liberal but I see you are quite an accomplished one with the way you have twisted the whole story so it is completely backward

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Feb 26, 2015 14:51:27   #
Xavier Reign
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
Trayvon Martin, defended himself against the attack of a white Hispanic attacker!

Liberals had that all wrong as do most of Americans. he kid's' human rights were violated, but who cares? he was just some young future thug; right!?

If you were faced with an attack from "Neighborhood watch captain" Zimmerman, accosting you while you were minding your own business, what would be your reaction. Black, white or other, how would you have felt? What would you have done?

Zimmerman is a killer, and as soon as he kills a white person, the feelings about him will change.

No need to respond; you've made your feelings quite clear.

Oh, and by the way: I am not liberal!
Trayvon Martin, defended himself against the attac... (show quote)


I don't think arming a neighborhood watchmen iSN'T right, and a young man lost his life. God knows the truth and if Zimmerman is in the wrong, Karma is a bit*h and he will get his. The problem is any life cut short is a problem no matter what color, race or ethnicity. But to allow the social media and anyone else to put race on the topic is just trying to rip us apart as country. My fathers life was cut short by a man with a gun, but I still believe in the right to bear arms.

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Feb 26, 2015 14:52:43   #
Xavier Reign
 
Xavier Reign wrote:
I don't think arming a neighborhood watchmen ISN'T right, and a young man lost his life. God knows the truth and if Zimmerman is in the wrong, Karma is a bit*h and he will get his. The problem is any life cut short is a problem no matter what color, race or ethnicity. But to allow the social media and anyone else to put race on the topic is just trying to rip us apart as country. My fathers life was cut short by a man with a gun, but I still believe in the right to bear arms.


EXCUSE THE FIRST POST I MISSED IS FOR ISN'T

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Feb 26, 2015 15:17:19   #
motive power
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
Trayvon Martin, defended himself against the attack of a white Hispanic attacker!

Liberals had that all wrong as do most of Americans. he kid's' human rights were violated, but who cares? he was just some young future thug; right!?

If you were faced with an attack from "Neighborhood watch captain" Zimmerman, accosting you while you were minding your own business, what would be your reaction. Black, white or other, how would you have felt? What would you have done?

Zimmerman is a killer, and as soon as he kills a white person, the feelings about him will change.

No need to respond; you've made your feelings quite clear.

Oh, and by the way: I am not liberal!
Trayvon Martin, defended himself against the attac... (show quote)


If you saw the real picture of what Little Baby Trayvon looked like you might rethink your statement. They showed you a picture of Trayvon at 12 years old, the reality of what Trayvon looked like is far different. He was a street thug sellind drugs and had been thrown out of school for trouble making and was on a first name basis with local law enforcement. At that hour of the night what was he drifting around for in an area where he didn't belong? Why would you attack the watchman or run if you were on the up and up? Why was the DOJ unable to bring charges on Zimmerman after a 3 year witch hunt and a few million tax dollars? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Feb 26, 2015 18:54:57   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Richard94611 wrote:
But any move to spend 20% of the budget in this way would have been blocked by Republicans.



dunno what the Swiss know
but you are certainly right bout the deporting

its not too late though
lets start soon

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Feb 26, 2015 21:47:41   #
astrolite
 
Rufus wrote:
unfortunately THEY HAVE BEEN HELD AS SLAVES BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR SO LONG MANY OF THEM SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW ANY BETTER. maybe SINCE THINGS HAVE GOTTEN WORSE FOR THEM UNDER Barry THEY WILL BEGIN TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES. Sorry about the caps.


NO, They will listen to the progressives who tell them BUSH DID IT! and they will believe it!

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Feb 26, 2015 21:52:36   #
Michael Slama
 
From my perspective I don't recall all of the black deaths that have been in the news these past few months. In a couple of these cases the Black Community overlook the immediate actions of the black person which contributed to his resulting death. I think 1-2 two cases would fit into this opinion.

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Feb 26, 2015 22:54:18   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Funny how this White House and the lame stream play word games.


son of witless wrote:
Is Espinoza a " white " Mexican? George Zimmerman was a " White " Hispanic.

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Feb 26, 2015 23:11:39   #
motive power
 
bmac32 wrote:
Funny how this White House and the lame stream play word games.


Well since they have had a white Hispanic shoot a black guy, I am waitting for a white black guy to shoot a black guy. Then a white muslim to shoot any body. :roll: :roll:

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