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Feb 7, 2015 21:57:13   #
Vacaman
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
You're right....I started that post with an insult....it's just frustrating....I find some here actually rooting against the economy simply because they hate the President....that's just crazy !
We have a long way to go on the economy...but at least some of the indicators are positive....that should be a good thing..
That being said, I agree, the top 10% keeps doing better, while the rest stay stagnant...I don't see this changing anytime soon


I don't hate the president at all. I may be that the private sector is contracting as another poster said or federal payroll receding. The prior is obvious and latter is BS, the government never shrinks. This is our deficit issue, we spend more than they can currently tax with a shrinking workforce.

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Feb 8, 2015 00:21:55   #
PRM2014
 
Don't know but I don't want any.

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Feb 8, 2015 02:57:18   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
KHH1 wrote:
Job and Wage Gains as Americans Rejoin the Work Force


By NELSON D. SCHWARTZFEB. 6, 2015


The economy barreled through the last three months with strong momentum, the Labor Department said Friday, as American employers added 257,000 jobs in January, wage growth rebounded and more people went looking for work in an improving labor market.

With new figures on the last two months of the year, 2014 turned out to be the strongest year for job gains since 1999. The government revised upward the already healthy figures for payroll gains in November and December, increasing their estimate by 147,000. All told, the economy added, on average, 260,000 jobs a month over the course of the year.

“This is the best employment report we’ve had in a long time,” said Guy Berger, United States economist at RBS. “The labor market looks like it’s in really good shape as we head into 2015.”

The Labor Department said on Friday that the unemployment rate inched up to 5.7 percent, from 5.6 percent. But even that apparent setback was mostly good news, as it was primarily because more Americans said they were encouraged enough by their job prospects to actively look for work.

Average hourly earnings rose 0.5 percent in January, the biggest monthly gain in more than six years, though it followed a disappointing drop in December. Over the last 12 months, wages advanced at a 2.2 percent pace, significantly ahead of the inflation rate.

The overall picture was so strong, Mr. Berger said, that the Federal Reserve might begin its long-awaited move to raise short-term interest rates in June, a step many economists had been expecting to be delayed until September.

“I still think it will be September, but the odds of a June increase have gone up somewhat,” Mr. Berger added. “The fact that the economy didn’t lose a step in January bolsters the case that inflation could hit the Fed’s target.”

Other experts echoed Mr. Berger’s take. “Employment growth is astonishingly strong,” said Ian Shepherdson, chief economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, in a note to clients immediately after the 8:30 a.m. release. “With every indicator we follow screaming that payrolls will be very strong for the foreseeable future, wage pressures will intensify.”

A few other signals are still flashing yellow, however. Data last week showed economic output grew at a slower-than-expected 2.6 percent rate in the fourth quarter of 2014.

And on Thursday, the government reported a big jump in the country’s trade deficit in December, as imports surged and exports fell. With the dollar's gaining strength and the euro and other currencies’ weakening, the trade balance may continue to weigh on the economy in 2015.

Economists had been looking for a gain of 230,000 jobs last month, but statistical quirks and the end of the holiday retail season have traditionally made January a difficult month for experts to get right ahead of time.

Government statisticians try to adjust for the annual exit of workers from stores after the end of the holiday shopping season, but this factor is always a wild card. Similarly, snowy weather in some parts of the country can also throw the numbers.

Another quirk last month was the annual adjustment of population figures used to calculate the unemployment rate in the household survey, a separate poll from the data gathered from establishments that produces the monthly change in payrolls.

In general, the household survey tends to be more volatile than the establishment survey, but this is exacerbated as benchmarks are adjusted at year-end.

Along with job creation and the unemployment rate, traders on Wall Street and policy makers are also closely watching for any sign that long-stagnant average hourly earnings are finally beginning to rise at a healthy pace.

Last month, hourly earnings rose 0.5 percent, above the consensus forecast of 0.3 percent, compared with a December drop that caught economists by surprise.

Although the unemployment rate has been steadily falling since peaking at 10 percent in October 2009, wage gains have been paltry. January's increase represents the fastest monthly gain since late 2008.

Even in months when wages did rise more sharply, hopes of sustained gains have been dashed by weakness the next month, a pattern repeated in November and December, when a 0.2 percent jump was immediately followed by a 0.2 percent dip.

The Federal Reserve, in particular, has been trying to gauge whether workers’ paychecks are rising and whether the labor market slack built up since the recession is finally receding.

The central bank has indicated that it will begin the long-anticipated process of raising short-term interest rates from near zero later this year, but persistently low inflation and little evidence of building wage pressures could delay that.

Mr. Berger, the RBS economist, cautioned that more monthly wage gains were needed before the 0.5 percent gain last month could be declared the beginning of a trend, but said it was a healthy development after December’s unexpected decline.

“The data can be noisy but it's hard to find anything negative in this report,” Mr. Berger said.
Job and Wage Gains as Americans Rejoin the Work Fo... (show quote)


Double the unemployment rate and you're about right.

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Feb 8, 2015 03:03:30   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
AuntiE wrote:
I find it interesting that the inching up by .1% from 5.6% to 5.7% in unemployment is encouraging because of more people looking for work. The unemployment percentages are not based on people seeking work. Those percentages are based on unemployment claims being filed. Looking for work is apples. Unemployment claims are oranges. As I spent a good fifteen years of my life working unemployment claim eligibility and stats, I could do an entire dissertation on the topic.


You will never see any "Governmental agency" under the Obama admin ever state or collect or publish how many companies have shut down, gone out of business, down sized, moved to another Country to operate. All this NEW job reporting is hog wash. Give up the names of the companies that have added all this so called new jobs....let us contact them...I can bet they would say..."what the hell are you talking about, we have been letting people go...NOT hiring more"....THAT is the truth of it all.

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Feb 8, 2015 03:04:20   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
BigMike wrote:
Double the unemployment rate and you're about right.


Maybe triple it....more factual.....

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Feb 8, 2015 09:32:14   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/meet-the-80-people-who-are-as-rich-as-half-the-world/


Anigav6969 wrote:
…as of right now, the wealthiest top 80 people in the world have the same wealth as the bottom 3.5 billion people…


Did you even go to and read the link you provided? Hell, you can’t even quote it correctly…”Eighty people hold the same amount of wealth as the world’s 3.6 billion poorest people…”

A quote from the link:
“To see how much wealth the richest 1 percent and the poorest 50 percent hold, Oxfam used research from Credit Suisse, a Swiss financial services company, and Forbes’s annual billionaires list

Well it just so happens that the wealth pyramid that is illustrated in the Business Insider link that I originally quoted and is provided below is actually in the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report 2013. It CLEARLY states that the 3.2 billion poorest people in the world have an aggregate wealth of $7.3 trillion.

http://www.businessinsider.com/global-wealth-pyramid-2013-10

Conversely, I believe your Forbes list may be older than the one I used. Using data in your link, the top 80 wealthiest people in the world had an aggregate wealth of $1.9 trillion while my link attached below shows them having an aggregate wealth of $1.98 trillion.

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#tab:overall

That means your assertion that the top 80 wealthiest people in the world have the same wealth as the bottom 3.5 billion people is a bunch of malarkey.

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Feb 8, 2015 09:54:27   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Actually, that's exactly what I said....the bottom 3.5 billion is the poorest....lol....what are you talking about ?.......and it is predicted to be by 2016

And the point is that you thought owning a house worth $800,000.00 put you in the 1% bracket....that is absolutely not true


No you said, "...as of right now, the wealthiest top 80 people in the world have the same wealth as the bottom 3.5 billion people…" a false statement.

And of course you missed my sarcasm when I said having an $800 thousand house - which to A LOT of people would mean being QUITE wealthy - would make you, "one of those evil one percenters."

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Feb 8, 2015 10:38:30   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
This pic explains it very well...And this is from 2013...the study is from a year later...March of 2014...it's getting worse every year

I thought this article explains it very well....it's not my claim.....complain to OXFAM....they explain the study in the article

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/meet-the-80-people-who-are-as-rich-as-half-the-world/


This is the picture I was talking about. And if you look at the top of the pyramid, it is NOT the 80 richest people in the world. And the bottom does NOT illustrate the 3.5 or 3.6 billion people you claim, whichever one it is.

Look at the links I provided. It's takes a little work - apparently something you're unwilling to do - but the FACTS are there to support my claim.

And predictions are like assholes...every prognosticator has one.

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Feb 8, 2015 10:40:16   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
...so how is that a false statement..? Okay, how's this: the top 80 wealthiest people have the same wealth as the poorest half of the worlds population...


That is an untrue statement also as I already pointed out.

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Feb 8, 2015 14:02:12   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
KHH1 pretty silent there boy.

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Feb 8, 2015 14:31:51   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
cold iron wrote:
KHH1 pretty silent there boy.


cold Iron: Don't you mean he is a "Shit Baby!"

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Feb 8, 2015 16:03:11   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
LAwrence wrote:
The soviet party line. A pack of lies


Hey! I found work! Er...do you want fries with that? :lol:

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Feb 10, 2015 15:47:45   #
knightrider
 
The $800 billion stimulus plan passed in 2009
The $5 trillion in debt accumulation—the most of any President in history
The passage of Obamacare… the assassination of Osama Bin Laden… and huge tax increases
Over the years, Porter has published research that predicted the collapse of certain companies, and even entire industries.
For example, he accurately described in detail – and well in advance – the collapse of such institutions as GM, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac, just to name a few.
More recently, Porter predicted the bankruptcy of Detroit, detailing the collapse of the city with a series of essays dating back to 2009.

The #1 financial question I hear from most Americans today is:

Have the problems from 2008 been fixed?


FACT #1: Jim says the REAL unemployment rate is actually around 23% in America today—if you calculate it the proper way. Most people don’t realize the government’s “official” rate doesn’t count people who have given up, and are no longer seeking work.

FACT #2: Jim Rickards also points out that in six years, from 2008 to 2014, we increased the money supply in the United States from $800 billion to $4 trillion—a whopping 400% increase! But despite all this money printing, individual incomes and household incomes have essentially not increased one bit.

FACT #3: Lots of people say to Jim, if things are so bad, where are the “soup kitchens” like we had in the Great Depression.

Jim Rickards accurately point out that we do indeed have “soup kitchens” today--they just look different than they did 90 years ago. Today’s soup kitchens are places like Safeway, Kroger, Albertsons, WholeFoods, and other grocery stores—because this is where roughly 50 million Americans use government-issued food stamps to eat. Keep in mind: The number of Americans on food stamps has basically doubled since President Obama took office.

FACT #4: Jim Rickards also says the Federal Reserve--which serves as America’s “banker’s bank” and as the government’s bank--is already insolvent. He says they have about $60 billion in cash… but this cash is propping up over $4 trillion in debt, and concludes: “the whole thing is unstable and it’s ready to explode.
FACT #5: Jim Rickards also says America today is witnessing its third stock bubble, and its second housing bubble, in the past 15 years. These bubbles, according to Jim, do not help the real economy but merely enrich brokers and bankers. And he says when these bubbles burst, the economy will confront a worse panic than occurred in 2008.

Jim Rickards sums it all up this way:
“We are in a depression…It started in 2007 and it is going to continue indefinitely. Depressions are structural--monetary solutions are cyclical. You cannot solve a structural problem with a cyclical remedy--monetary policy [printing money] simply will not work.”

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Feb 14, 2015 03:08:49   #
Chameleon12
 
It could work but, they are gambling quite a bit. I'm pretty sure the house is against us this time. America doesn't always come out on top.

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Feb 14, 2015 03:20:12   #
Chameleon12
 
mwdegutis wrote:
That is an untrue statement also as I already pointed out.


Actually, you're wrong about this. The Business insider graph shows only the people who actually own any type of significant wealth. It is not referring to the entire human population on earth. Look at the graph, if it represented the entire population., there would be less than 5 billion people on earth which is obviosly not true. The statistics you're using leaves out the more than billion people who have no significant wealth at all.

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