rolse wrote:
The situation is not the same at all. We were colonies of the British Empire at the start of the war. The southern NATION states WERE part of the united states of America, not colonies. So had the British won, anything the colonies did during hostilities would be moot and the situation would be the same as before. What most here no longer understand is that each state of the united states of America is a sovereign nation. They always have been. The nations formed a covenant to grant certain powers, and ONLY those powers, to the central government. They also, under the covenant, agreed to forego certain powers customarily exercised by sovereign nations. The treaty of Paris in 1783 that ended the Revolutionary War specifically names the nations (our states under the Articles of confederation) as the nations with whom the peace treaty is concluded and their delegates authority to conclude it, subject to ratification by the nations (Georgia, the Carolinas, Virginia, etc.) So actually, the states had a lawful RIGHT to secede and if they chose, form a new nation. The colonies had a right only if they won, or the Brits got tired and figured it wasn't worth the cost.
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Hey man, you did a great job explaining the above and very few truly understand the U.S. Corporation debacle which we could discuss for months. You did however shed light on a part that I had not thought of in that the President was not required to be a natural born citizen as stated in the Constitution and defined by the Supreme Court case of 1875 of Minor vs. Happersett. Interesting concept of why the courts will not act on the matter.
On another subject albeit somewhat related; Skott, you are a frigging imbecile cease and decease; literally. No harm intended to you personally, just can't believe someone can be that dumb. You have embarrassed yourself enough.