The situation is not the same at all. We were colonies of the British Empire at the start of the war. The southern NATION states WERE part of the united states of America, not colonies. So had the British won, anything the colonies did during hostilities would be moot and the situation would be the same as before. What most here no longer understand is that each state of the united states of America is a sovereign nation. They always have been. The nations formed a covenant to grant certain powers, and ONLY those powers, to the central government. They also, under the covenant, agreed to forego certain powers customarily exercised by sovereign nations. The treaty of Paris in 1783 that ended the Revolutionary War specifically names the nations (our states under the Articles of confederation) as the nations with whom the peace treaty is concluded and their delegates authority to conclude it, subject to ratification by the nations (Georgia, the Carolinas, Virginia, etc.) So actually, the states had a lawful RIGHT to secede and if they chose, form a new nation. The colonies had a right only if they won, or the Brits got tired and figured it wasn't worth the cost.

He's always been Muslim, one reason he goes to Hawaii every Christmas is so he doesn't have to recognize Christ.
Rather than just call it as it is,he defends Muslims and decries ancient Christians for atrocities and blames Christians for.slavery, while ignoring the current Muslims who practice slavery to this day
He lives in his own world and is the most dangerous POTUS in our history.
Don't be surprised if he pulls off a major attack on Christians by.abetting Muslim terrorists!
He lied his way to power and he hates American"colonialism"
He should be put out immediately

He's always been Muslim, one reason he goes to Hawaii every Christmas is so he doesn't have to recognize Christ.
Rather than just call it as it is,he defends Muslims and decries ancient Christians for atrocities and blames Christians for.slavery, while ignoring the current Muslims who practice slavery to this day
He lives in his own world and is the most dangerous POTUS in our history.
Don't be surprised if he pulls off a major attack on Christians by.abetting Muslim terrorists!
He lied his way to power and he hates American"colonialism"
He should be put out immediately

Can you tell me where to find the book you wrote on good reality? Why can't you Libs skip all the anti rhetoric and let common sense and logic be your guide. Example. I would like to know why you libs think it is a good idea with the sad state employment in USA is why would anybody in their right mind would add 4 million illegals to the labor force at cheap wages when the unions who put dopey in the white house are screaming for higher wages.Do you have the ability to comprehend ignorance or does your bed partner get a pass?

The problem with that line of thinking is that is NOT what they actually did. Lincoln's executive orders were never rescinded, and the united states of America had, in fact ceased to exist under the constitution, being replaced in fact by The Union. One by one the southern states were "allowed" to "join" the Union. No act of congress ever ended the hostilities, terminated marshall law, or even unilaterally proclaimed the confederacy dissolved. Incidentally, every president since Lincoln has redeclared martial law under EO #1 so they could make law by executive order; which is not a power of the president granted by the constitution. His power under the constitution is to "take Care that the Laws are faithfully executed". (That does not include making law by edict) It also doesn't give congress the authority to create a private corporation having themselves as actors while really governing as officers of that corporation. It is also why the president does not have to be a citizen. That's why the big secrecy about Obama (Soetero's) past, and no serious challenge being allowed. Neither party dares admit the truth or the cat's out of the bag.

Hey man, you did a great job explaining the above and very few truly understand the U.S. Corporation debacle which we could discuss for months. You did however shed light on a part that I had not thought of in that the President was not required to be a natural born citizen as stated in the Constitution and defined by the Supreme Court case of 1875 of Minor vs. Happersett. Interesting concept of why the courts will not act on the matter.

On another subject albeit somewhat related; Skott, you are a frigging imbecile cease and decease; literally. No harm intended to you personally, just can't believe someone can be that dumb. You have embarrassed yourself enough.