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Jan 25, 2015 00:28:16   #
robert66
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
You have absolutely lost me, Bobbie.


Okay if my comment is confusing I will simplify it. Tea party and conservative leaders love to scare their followers with imagined threats of communism and socialism. Conspiracy theorists fall right in line with this philosophy also. This country is far from communist and so is the president.

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Jan 25, 2015 00:31:14   #
PeterS
 
reconreb wrote:
I vote , fight , die by the T.P constatutional doctrains !!!!


We all have to die sometime...

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Jan 25, 2015 00:47:26   #
PeterS
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Actually, you're trying to convince Righties, that YOU are right and everything else is bullshit.

Some questions:

The Communist Party may say they are working with other parties, but the final outcome in their eyes is a one-party system.
Well I guess that wasn't a question. It's a fact and everyone knows it.

The other fact, since the Communists are aware that Socialism can only work if everyone believes in Socialism, then the entire world must become Communist.

Do you have a problem with those 2 facts?
Actually, you're trying to convince Righties, that... (show quote)

The corporations who own our politicians will never permit communism so I really don’t see what conservatives are so worried about? You guys really need to chill. We have as much chance of becoming communist as Christians have of have, of, well going to heaven! In other words it ain’t going to happen. Find something else to worry about. Obama being a Muslim, or birtherism, or Benghazi are always good things to turn to when all else is failing...

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Jan 25, 2015 04:33:32   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
I thought democrats were communists? You mean they are something different?


The Democrats are, by and large, dupes. Republican voters are usually a little better informed than their Democrat counterparts. Being a little better informed than the average Democrat is not exactly something to crow about. The average Democratic voter is someone who expects government to solve all of their problems, when governmnent is the cause of most of them. Republicans would expect the same of Free Enterprise, which is more reliable, because it requires people to spend their own money. RINOs, on the other hand, differ from Democrats only in the degree to which they are willing to piss away other people's money. Democrats, being more experienced, are usually better at it. RINOs are usually better liars than their Democratic opposite numbers; a slightly better educated and more skeptical voter base requires more circumspection and finesse in their falsehoods than is usually necessary to fleece a Liberal.

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Jan 25, 2015 04:45:45   #
damemary
 
Most people I see around here know all they'll ever know already. I'm looking for something new.

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Jan 25, 2015 04:51:28   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
damemary wrote:
Most people I see around here know all they'll ever know already. I'm looking for something new.


It's so nice to welcome a new user who has no preconceived notions. I am certainly glad I am not "most people you see around here." Since you have seen me, how do you like my new haircut?

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Jan 25, 2015 05:08:04   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
The Democrats are, by and large, dupes. Republican voters are usually a little better informed than their Democrat counterparts. Being a little better informed than the average Democrat is not exactly something to crow about. The average Democratic voter is someone who expects government to solve all of their problems, when governmnent is the cause of most of them. Republicans would expect the same of Free Enterprise, which is more reliable, because it requires people to spend their own money. RINOs, on the other hand, differ from Democrats only in the degree to which they are willing to piss away other people's money. Democrats, being more experienced, are usually better at it. RINOs are usually better liars than their Democratic opposite numbers; a slightly better educated and more skeptical voter base requires more circumspection and finesse in their falsehoods than is usually necessary to fleece a Liberal.
The Democrats are, by and large, dupes. Republican... (show quote)

Today our government is controlled by lobbyists and Corporations so just how do you see them turning loose over control to communists? Both the Nazi's and the Italian Fascists used Corporatism as an economic system so if you want to worry about anything I would be much more worried about that then anything the democrats are up to. And since conservatives think fascism is a leftwing ideology instead of rightwing I wouldn't hang your hat one them knowing anymore than a democrat! Too many conservatives think it's the other guys shit that stinks when they are the only ones in the room...

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Jan 25, 2015 05:19:38   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
Today our government is controlled by lobbyists and Corporations so just how do you see them turning loose over control to communists? Both the Nazi's and the Italian Fascists used Corporatism as an economic system so if you want to worry about anything I would be much more worried about that then anything the democrats are up to. And since conservatives think fascism is a leftwing ideology instead of rightwing I wouldn't hang your hat one them knowing anymore than a democrat! Too many conservatives think it's the other guys shit that stinks when they are the only ones in the room...
Today our government is controlled by lobbyists an... (show quote)


Communists have all sorts of connections to multi-national corporations and banks. For all the talk about equality, Communism is simply another form of Feudalism, and running a fiefdom is expensive. There are more similarities between Facism and Communism than most people realize; the first being that the State is all-powerful, and that "rights" are whatever the State says they are. Both systems are predicated on the notion that the State, which is a large bureaucracy, is somehow more capable of managing your affairs than you are. Both systems subordinate individual rights. Communism has better window dressing. Liberals, for all their talk of individual rights, are more herd animals. They may proclaim their undying defense of the individual, but their actions are usually those of collectivists.

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Jan 25, 2015 05:23:22   #
damemary
 
Your haircut is hard to distinguish and your gesture seems aggressive.

Loki wrote:
It's so nice to welcome a new user who has no preconceived notions. I am certainly glad I am not "most people you see around here." Since you have seen me, how do you like my new haircut?

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Jan 25, 2015 05:51:12   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
damemary wrote:
Your haircut is hard to distinguish and your gesture seems aggressive.

No, no, you don't understand. You said from what you have seen of the PEOPLE here, not their avatars. There is a difference. I think you will find that people who post here, from whichever end of the political spectrum they espouse, are heavily invested in their position. People get wound up about subjects they care about. You have already staked out your position, based on a paucity of information, and I can pretty much guarantee that the people you refer to as knowing all they are likely to are the conservative posters. Is my pre-conceived notion correct, or is it as misplaced as yours? As of now, you have offered nothing but baseless criticisms of people of whom you know nothing, and have posted nothing that indicates you have any knowledge of anything else. You have contributed zero. Should we consider you to know all you are likely to know? You expressed a desire for something new. I just provided it.

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Jan 25, 2015 05:52:41   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
Communists have all sorts of connections to multi-national corporations and banks. For all the talk about equality, Communism is simply another form of Feudalism, and running a fiefdom is expensive. There are more similarities between Facism and Communism than most people realize; the first being that the State is all-powerful, and that "rights" are whatever the State says they are. Both systems are predicated on the notion that the State, which is a large bureaucracy, is somehow more capable of managing your affairs than you are. Both systems subordinate individual rights. Communism has better window dressing. Liberals, for all their talk of individual rights, are more herd animals. They may proclaim their undying defense of the individual, but their actions are usually those of collectivists.
Communists have all sorts of connections to multi-... (show quote)

With communism the economy is controlled by government and with fascism the economy is controlled by selected corporations. Citi corp just wrote itself and a handful of other banks a sweetheart deal in the budget that was just passed. That is text book Corporatism and I will bet you 95% of all conservatives would rather have Corporations writing legislation the evil "communism!" Communism is nothing but a red herring and while you are off chasing it Corporate America has taken over the government!

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Jan 25, 2015 06:13:18   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
With communism the economy is controlled by government and with fascism the economy is controlled by selected corporations. Citi corp just wrote itself and a handful of other banks a sweetheart deal in the budget that was just passed. That is text book Corporatism and I will bet you 95% of all conservatives would rather have Corporations writing legislation the evil "communism!" Communism is nothing but a red herring and while you are off chasing it Corporate America has taken over the government!
With communism the economy is controlled by govern... (show quote)


With Communism the economy is controlled by the government and with Facism the economy is controlled by selected corporations, which you just stated controlled the government. Your argument is circular. Follow the money, and you will find that those who control the money control the government; and corporations do not control the money so much as large international banks. The IMF, of which our Federal Reserve is a member. In it's 102 year existence, the Federal Reserve, which is not even an actual part of the government, has managed to stave off every single attempt at an audit. Congress, which is supposed to exercise oversight, has simply taken their word for it. Once more, Communism is an expensive hobby. It requires money that only large international banking organizations can provide. Meyer Rothschild, one of the scions of the banking families, once said, back in the 1800s, "give me control of a nation's finances, and it matter not who runs their government." The Bolshevik Revolution was financed in large part with loans that JP Morgan was instrumental in arranging.

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Jan 25, 2015 07:50:51   #
rebob14
 
Yes and Amen!!

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Jan 25, 2015 08:28:17   #
Kachina
 
Interesting post and worth checking out. Obama has certainly been promoting a communist agenda with dictating what laws and programs will be done whether congress agrees or not. His policy has been more of dictatorship and he has certainly reached out to communist parties around the world. It is a scary thought because people in communist countries basically lose their freedoms. Personally I don't think a communist party would ever bE widely accepted or voted in. Americans honor the constitution and their freedoms. I would hope Americans would stand up against this radicalization. We are all pretty tired of the political bickering and stagnation of the republican and democratic parties. I would hope for a better option with a third party that actually listens To its people. But definitely not a communist party.

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Jan 25, 2015 08:36:07   #
damemary
 
Loki wrote:
No, no, you don't understand. You said from what you have seen of the PEOPLE here, not their avatars. There is a difference. I think you will find that people who post here, from whichever end of the political spectrum they espouse, are heavily invested in their position. People get wound up about subjects they care about. You have already staked out your position, based on a paucity of information, and I can pretty much guarantee that the people you refer to as knowing all they are likely to are the conservative posters. Is my pre-conceived notion correct, or is it as misplaced as yours? As of now, you have offered nothing but baseless criticisms of people of whom you know nothing, and have posted nothing that indicates you have any knowledge of anything else. You have contributed zero. Should we consider you to know all you are likely to know? You expressed a desire for something new. I just provided it.
No, no, you don't understand. You said from what y... (show quote)


You have contributed nothing of interest.

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