On the impossibility of Abiogenesis.
Jan 23, 2015 22:35:52 #
melbell
Loc: California / Kentucky
Jeffhunter wrote:
It's more believable that we were created by a naughty child of GOD as it thrives on dominating butt sniffing monkeys and commanding them to obey it. I mean seriously folks if you could create a universe what good would humans do you ?
Wow!
According to the bible.
Good seed was set/ planted
And weeds / snares were spotted among the good seed.
It was asked if they should be uprooted.
But in the interest of the good seed and not uprooting the good with the bad.
This was not done.
The separation of the good from the bad will take place at the harvest.
So according to this parable those you speak of could be of the weed snare type some refer to as of their father the devil meaning bad seed.
However
According to the bible your suggestion has basis
And so do those of light or good seed.
Jan 23, 2015 22:43:43 #
melbell wrote:
Wow! br According to the bible. br Good seed was s... (show quote)
Good seed? Good for WHAT?
The thing that intrigues me the most is the similarity that all mammals share. And why do all living things evolve if nature can't create anything?
Jan 23, 2015 22:53:58 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Supreme intelligence? Maybe, but I think think th... (show quote)
See you in hell sucka :thumbup:
Jan 23, 2015 22:59:56 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
melbell wrote:
No I try not to think. br My dalliances here are ... (show quote)
Good reason to think it wasnt of bible origin. I know some predate the bible. I too find it facinating.
Jan 23, 2015 23:00:19 #
melbell
Loc: California / Kentucky
Jeffhunter wrote:
Good seed? Good for WHAT?
The thing that intrigues me the most is the similarity that all mammals share. And why do all living things evolve if nature can't create anything?
The thing that intrigues me the most is the similarity that all mammals share. And why do all living things evolve if nature can't create anything?
You and I appear to be having two different conversations.
My apologies.
Jan 23, 2015 23:00:56 #
Jan 23, 2015 23:02:03 #
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Jan 23, 2015 23:03:13 #
melbell
Loc: California / Kentucky
nwtk2007 wrote:
Good reason to think it wasnt of bible origin. I know some predate the bible. I too find it facinating.
The most fascinating circle isn't it origin.
Which that predate are you speaking of ?
Jan 24, 2015 02:12:16 #
I don't have the time to answer this just now but It looks like an interesting challenge. I'll respond in the next few days.
Jan 24, 2015 03:07:45 #
You need to define 'nothing' or your argument falls apart in the definition stage.
Bear in mind that your attempt is to qualify on a scientific basis the science's inability to support the concept of abiogenesis. For that reason , your definitions and principles must necessarily be applicable to both, the science and the metaphysical 'reality' you are declaring by your final statement.
Now, you can legitimately state that you claim no relationship between science and metaphysics but if you do so, you remove your argument from the realm of rational debate.
Either way, a failure to define 'nothing' leaves both of your principles unsupported. In other words, you are basing your entire argument on an ethereal assumption.
Bear in mind that your attempt is to qualify on a scientific basis the science's inability to support the concept of abiogenesis. For that reason , your definitions and principles must necessarily be applicable to both, the science and the metaphysical 'reality' you are declaring by your final statement.
Now, you can legitimately state that you claim no relationship between science and metaphysics but if you do so, you remove your argument from the realm of rational debate.
Either way, a failure to define 'nothing' leaves both of your principles unsupported. In other words, you are basing your entire argument on an ethereal assumption.
Jan 24, 2015 06:39:46 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Forfend is correct!!
Of course it is. I'm always correct. Except for the times I am not.
Jan 24, 2015 08:45:17 #
Jan 24, 2015 10:18:49 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
melbell wrote:
The most fascinating circle isn't it origin.
Which that predate are you speaking of ?
Which that predate are you speaking of ?
Horus of Egypt is but one example. Predates Christ by a bit. Its interesting about virgin births, it seems the women involved never have any say in whether or not they are going to bear the God's offspring. Hmm
Jan 24, 2015 13:30:31 #
Jan 24, 2015 13:39:27 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
It was about 3 billion yrs before life sbowed up in the fossil record. All before that was blank. It was about a billion more years before anything more than bacterial life appears. How long has man been studying it! Like 0.000000000000001% of that time? Is it any wonder why we havent seen it happen again?
The heavy elements are created by supernovas. Everything in us and on earth was at one time space dust and inside stars. We can find evidence in other galaxies of these same elements.
Now if there are billions of stars and planets in the universe, then whatever lucky accident created life in this solar system and on planet earth has got to have occurred mathematically some place else, if there is no God. Yet as far as we know, we are it. Everywhere else is just dead matter and energy. And we have not been here very long. If there is no God then our existence has no more meaning than any other space debris randomly spinning around the universe. Yet even the most ardent Atheist believes that somehow his existence is very important.
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