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Jan 20, 2015 22:23:03   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
Grugore wrote:
And yet they are not climatologists. The simple fact remains that temperatures have remained steady for eighteen years, despite a rise in C02 levels. How do you explain this?


What exactly do you think climatologists are because my scientific understanding of them would be that they are a person who studies the climate. That is the job of the NOAA do you disagree with that?

Also you keep saying fact yet I do not think you know what that word means.

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Jan 20, 2015 22:43:20   #
Grugore
 
Socialist Batman wrote:
What exactly do you think climatologists are because my scientific understanding of them would be that they are a person who studies the climate. That is the job of the NOAA do you disagree with that?

Also you keep saying fact yet I do not think you know what that word means.


Fact: Noun. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.

We have a record of global temperatures. That record shows that temperatures have remained steady for the past eighteen years.

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Jan 20, 2015 22:43:44   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
Grugore wrote:
Fact: Noun. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.

We have a record of global temperatures. That record shows that temperatures have remained steady for the past eighteen years.


SHOW ME

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Jan 20, 2015 22:51:01   #
Grugore
 
Socialist Batman wrote:
SHOW ME


Google it, you lazy b@stard.

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Jan 20, 2015 22:53:41   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
Grugore wrote:
Google it, you lazy b@stard.


HAHAHAHAH, you want me to find proof for your argument?

Okay then, done, now google reasons why that is not true, so long as we're doing each others research.

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Jan 20, 2015 23:11:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Grugore wrote:
So, how do explain global temperatures remaining unchanged over the past eighteen years?


Grugore,

do you not read the paper, watch TV, or surf the web? 2014 was world wide the hottest year on record.

You inability to accept facts is the definition of the right wing. No matter what, never accept science, never advance any plan for progress and never promote any thing that will improve our nation or the middle class. But complain, complain and complain. Hinder every attempt to make improvements, denigh any improvement in the nations well being..

No wonder you people are so despised.. and criticized..and ridiculed.. ETC....ETC...ETC

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Jan 20, 2015 23:15:17   #
W8_4_It
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
You are right and NASA is wrong? OK, you win. I give up.


You didn't answer his question. You didn't even do a good job at ducking his question.

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Jan 20, 2015 23:23:52   #
W8_4_It
 
permafrost wrote:
Grugore,

do you not read the paper, watch TV, or surf the web? 2014 was world wide the hottest year on record.

You inability to accept facts is the definition of the right wing. No matter what, never accept science, never advance any plan for progress and never promote any thing that will improve our nation or the middle class. But complain, complain and complain. Hinder every attempt to make improvements, denigh any improvement in the nations well being..

No wonder you people are so despised.. and criticized..and ridiculed.. ETC....ETC...ETC
Grugore, br br do you not read the paper, wat... (show quote)


They are not facts. Whenever debate comes up you guys try the same tired old meme. Shut down the debate and uncomfortable questions by Shrieking "settled science", Experts agree, etc.

The CO2 driven models are drivel. They aren't right and cannot accurately predict temps. Almost Every prediction has been wrong. The model has serious flaws.

The manipulation of data is pretty extreme.

The whole concept of man changing the temps is very questionable. Why did we have alternating hot spells and ice ages eons before man started producing any appreciable carbon footprint?

Crickets.

Is the earth warming. Probably.

Did man cause it? Probably not.

Is Co2 the cause or even a major driver? No.

That kinda puts the carbon tax scheme right into the grave and the powers that be can't be having that.

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Jan 20, 2015 23:23:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Grugore wrote:
Google it, you lazy b@stard.


Grugore,

Try "2014 hottest year on record" you will get several dozen versions of this report.

I will drop an excerpt from a long article. You can look at any number or reports if you wish..


From Think progress.com Dec 5th 2014..

2014 is currently on track to be hottest year on record, according to new reports from both the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and the U.K.’s Met Office Wednesday. Similarly, NOAA reported two weeks ago that 2014 is all but certain to be the hottest year on record.

It is not remarkable that we keep setting new records for global temperatures — 2005 and then 2010 and likely 2014. Humans are, after all, emitting record amounts of heat-trapping carbon pollution into the air, and carbon dioxide levels in the air are at levels not seen for millions of years, when the planet was far warmer and sea levels tens of feet higher. The figure above from the Met Office makes clear that humans continue to warm the planet.

“The provisional information for 2014 means that fourteen of the fifteen warmest years on record have all occurred in the 21st century,” said WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud. “There is no standstill in global warming.”

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Jan 20, 2015 23:26:34   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
W8_4_It wrote:
They are not facts. Whenever debate comes up you guys try the same tired old meme. Shut down the debate and uncomfortable questions by Shrieking "settled science", Experts agree, etc.

The CO2 driven models are drivel. They aren't right and cannot accurately predict temps. Almost Every prediction has been wrong. The model has serious flaws.

The manipulation of data is pretty extreme.

The whole concept of man changing the temps is very questionable. Why did we have alternating hot spells and ice ages eons before man started producing any appreciable carbon footprint?

Crickets.

Is the earth warming. Probably.

Did man cause it? Probably not.

Is Co2 the cause or even a major driver? No.

That kinda puts the carbon tax scheme right into the grave and the powers that be can't be having that.
They are not facts. Whenever debate comes up you g... (show quote)


[citation needed]

Asserting statements does not make them true do you have any sources to support your position?

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Jan 20, 2015 23:30:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
W8_4_It wrote:
They are not facts. Whenever debate comes up you guys try the same tired old meme. Shut down the debate and uncomfortable questions by Shrieking "settled science", Experts agree, etc.

The CO2 driven models are drivel. They aren't right and cannot accurately predict temps. Almost Every prediction has been wrong. The model has serious flaws.

The manipulation of data is pretty extreme.

The whole concept of man changing the temps is very questionable. Why did we have alternating hot spells and ice ages eons before man started producing any appreciable carbon footprint?

Crickets.

Is the earth warming. Probably.

Did man cause it? Probably not.

Is Co2 the cause or even a major driver? No.

That kinda puts the carbon tax scheme right into the grave and the powers that be can't be having that.
They are not facts. Whenever debate comes up you g... (show quote)




I can show you facts. But you and the right wings normal response is to refuse to believe those facts. No surprise in that at all.. I have gotten used to it, and expect nothing different from you..

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Jan 20, 2015 23:40:41   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Grugore wrote:
Google it, you lazy b@stard.


Hello. Did everybody watch the State of the Union tonight? How did you like the Prez's statements on "Climate Change" and 2014 being the hottest time ever recorded by NASA and NOAA ??? Do you believe this?

And if you disagree with this nonsense, and can actually pull up the correct statistics by "googling it," you surely must be "mad" and need to be committed.

Meanwhile as we start to freeze our bippies off each winter, as the Jet Stream dips deeper and deeper southward, ask yourselves why is the government lying to us? Think it through.

1) Why does the Bureau of Land Management own 50% of all US lands today?

2) Why has our President not shut down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac after their role in causing the housing collapse of 2008? Why blame the collapse on the private banks instead of the federal banks?

3) Why did President Obama grant 90% of the mortgage business to the Federal Housing Authority taking all this business away from private banks and credit unions?

4) Why, again, is the Federal Housing Authority offering 3% down payments under the Community Reinvestment Act - those same infamous Liar Loans that got us into this mess in the first place? Where is this taking the economy?

Here is one possibility. For every defaulted loan, the government gains one additional piece of real estate, taking it out of the private sector and shifting it to BLM. This is creeping Fabian Socialism, one house at a time and no one is noticing, except the private banks and credit unions.

If we are to be confronted by severe winters for the next thirty - forty years, part of this bicentennial Relational Cycle of solar hibernation, or possibly the onset of an ice age, the enemy is not the climate, folks, the enemy is the socialists in the government slowly stripping us to the right to private property.

Specifically, the Progressives are seeking any excuse to seize power: all land management, all industrial output, all energy production, all farming, all waterways and resources, systematically, step by step by step, right before our very eyes with little or no notice. Just look at all the federal subsidies for the housing market today!

Necessity is not driving this power grab, arrogance is. For us common men and women, we will solve our destiny without a nanny-state of Intelligentsia. Pay attention to what is going down.

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Jan 20, 2015 23:41:00   #
W8_4_It
 
Socialist Batman wrote:
[citation needed]

Asserting statements does not make them true do you have any sources to support your position?


Here is a graph for you of the last 18 years.

https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/556650687577489409

This one inspires confidence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2915061/Nasa-climate-scientists-said-2014-warmest-year-record-38-sure-right.html

In late breaking news, Climate clowns take 1700 private jets to Davos to discuss 'global warming". Heh. If they stayed home, stopped manipulating the data and just shut up, there would be a lot less CO2.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/20/1700-private-jets-fly-to-davos-to-discuss-global-warming/

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Jan 20, 2015 23:46:32   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
W8_4_It wrote:
Here is a graph for you of the last 18 years.

https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/556650687577489409

This one inspires confidence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2915061/Nasa-climate-scientists-said-2014-warmest-year-record-38-sure-right.html

In late breaking news, Climate clowns take 1700 private jets to Davos to discuss 'global warming". Heh. If they stayed home, stopped manipulating the data and just shut up, there would be a lot less CO2.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/20/1700-private-jets-fly-to-davos-to-discuss-global-warming/
Here is a graph for you of the last 18 years. br ... (show quote)


1. If twitter is where you get your evidence from you might want to rethink your life choices.

2. Both articles fail to provide justifications for their claims and therefore can be dismissed as assertions.

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Jan 21, 2015 00:05:31   #
W8_4_It
 
Socialist Batman wrote:
1. If twitter is where you get your evidence from you might want to rethink your life choices.

2. Both articles fail to provide justifications for their claims and therefore can be dismissed as assertions.


1.) the graph was taken from the global warming studies. Its the same graph except it shows the last 18 years which 'wamristas" are loathe to do.

2.) Read the latest study saying 2014 is the warmest year.

For example the latest NOAA report claiming 2014 was the hottest year on record. The conclusion was that 2014 To quote "was 0.69 C above the 20th century average of 13.9 C easily breaking the records of 2005 and 2010 by 0.04 C"

Now read down in the small print tucked away at the back ....the bias for that number 0. 69 C temp is +/- 0.09 C.

The temperature rise is less than half the uncertainty of the measurement they are quoting as the 'average temperature". Holy shit.

I was a science major in college. If I turned in a paper with that conclusion based on miniscule differences with a bias that large in the original reading I would have received a failing grade.

If I tried that in Industry I would not have a client left.

Do you even read this shit that they try to pass off as studies?

Or are you like the rest of the lemmings and just believe any crap the UN or Lame Stream Media say?

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