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Jan 18, 2015 19:07:57   #
son of witless
 
alex wrote:
it started under LBJ and has gotten worse every since but has grown by leaps and bounds under obozo


This is what happens late in great countries. The people choose bad leaders and those leaders buy them off.

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Jan 18, 2015 19:59:05   #
Grugore
 
MrEd wrote:
This would be a good case for the States to nullify his actions. Since he cannot make law and neither can the ATF, anything either does is unconstitutional. Congress is the ONLY branch that can make laws and anything else can be nullified by the States, but even they cannot make unconstitutional laws.


That's exactly why I expect Obama to declare martial law, before his term is up. And his terrorists buddies that are swarming into our country will give him the perfect excuse. I hope I'm wrong but history is not on my side, as far as my own wishes are concerned.

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Jan 18, 2015 20:50:29   #
W8_4_It
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Not familiar with 'Red Green' but I loved 'Fawlty Towers'. You are correct, John Cleese would have a field day with Obama.


Fawlty Towers. I loved that one. It never failed to make me laugh. The interactions between Cleese and the Portuguese waiter/bellboy were hilarious.

But back to topic. No one is going to obey that if they push it through. It will be massive civil disobedience. Like the guns laws in New York etc. The majority of people didn't turn in those guns and magazines. They stashed / hid them.

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Jan 18, 2015 21:02:39   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
W8_4_It wrote:
Fawlty Towers. I loved that one. It never failed to make me laugh. The interactions between Cleese and the Portuguese waiter/bellboy were hilarious.

But back to topic. No one is going to obey that if they push it through. It will be massive civil disobedience. Like the guns laws in New York etc. The majority of people didn't turn in those guns and magazines. They stashed / hid them.


And publicly flaunted them.

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Jan 19, 2015 06:52:49   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Grugore wrote:
That's exactly why I expect Obama to declare martial law, before his term is up. And his terrorists buddies that are swarming into our country will give him the perfect excuse. I hope I'm wrong but history is not on my side, as far as my own wishes are concerned.


Sadly, I admit to that same fear, Grugore. Just watching this coward in action should open the eyes of the stupid, but when you are stupid to begin with - not much hope.

I am considering going to a lawyer to sue for equal treatment of Christianity vs Islam. There are SO many incidents that can be named. There's one problem - to sue, you have to show how it has personally affected you. I'm thinking about that - any suggestion? I'm retired, live in an area of strong Christian faith, what can I use?

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Jan 19, 2015 07:34:10   #
Radiance3
 
Nuclearian wrote:
The budget submitted by the President for the 2015 fiscal year contained some shocking tax and spending increases, but lost in the shuffle were Obama’s attempts to impose his gun control agenda. Resigned to the fact that gun control is not going to happen through acts of Congress, the president has been attempting to achieve his unconstitutional goals through the backdoor.

The White House released a statement regarding the gun control aspects of the budget:

Supports the “Now is the Time” initiative, the President’s plan to protect our children and our communities by reducing gun violence through improved background checks by the FBI and improved data via the National Criminal History Improvement Program, inspections of Federally-licensed firearms dealers, improved tracing and ballis­tics analysis, and efforts to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals. The Budget provides training for State and local law enforcement to prevent and respond to active shooters and prevent mass casualties, invests in programs to identify mental health issues early and continues the Comprehensive School Safety Program and other initiatives to enhance school security.

It just sounds like a bunch of “common sense” regulations that everybody could get behind to reduce gun violence, right? Well, if you look at what he’s really trying to do, you’ll realize these are some pretty scary rights-infringing gun control initiatives.

Improved background checks means a national gun registry. We already have a background check system that routinely denies convicted felons and other restricted persons from buying firearms. The system works, so why do we need to improve it? The answer is, it doesn’t. What Obama and the gun grabbers want to do is establish a national firearms registry and that has nothing to do with denying guns to bad guys and everything with taking guns away from good guys.

In addition, this new way of doing things would make it illegal to loan a gun to friend or gift one to a family member, making more criminals out of law-abiding citizens

More inspections of Federally-licensed firearms dealers is another backdoor gun control effort. Shut down the dealers; dry up the supply of firearms. FFLs have to keep a tremendous amount of paperwork, and any little mistake can result in the feds pulling the license. They say they are trying to stop unscrupulous gun dealers from selling to prohibited persons, but what they really want to do is shut down as many gun stores as possible.

Improved tracing and ballistics analysis is code for imposing micro-stamping and smart guns on the American people. These unproven technologies will not stop crime or help the police solve it. They will create a ban on all new guns like micro-stamping has done in California. Banning guns without this technology is a total ban as no guns exist with it.

Additional training and support for local law enforcement means a further militarization of the civilian police force. The White House claims it is tooling up the local cops to deal with mass shootings, but these incidents are beyond rare. Even when they do happen, police are too late; the carnage has been done. This escalation is not a response to spree killings, but rather a show of force by the feds and local police that increasingly view average citizens as the enemy.

Programs to identify mental health issues is another backdoor gun control effort. Can’t ban the guns? Ban the people. Obama wants to reclassify millions of Americans who have felt a little down or taken anti-depressants as mental health risks. As such, they would loose their 2nd Amendment rights with no mechanism for regaining them. This is the scariest of all his initiative because it involves both denial of rights and confiscation.

And lastly, we get Comprehensive School Safety Program. Despite its name, it will still leave all of our nations schools as soft-target “gun-free zones.” If the goal is to make our children safer, and it should be, we should put armed officers on every campus. We should train teachers and allow them to carry concealed weapons. The CSSP spends money looking for ways to stop armed madmen without the obvious solution of armed good guys.

Obama’s budget is predictably bad, but the backdoor gun control measures put it over the top in horribleness. Thankfully, Congress generally views the president’s budgets as comedy and not even a starting point for their eventual spending plan.
The budget submitted by the President for the 2015... (show quote)


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Gun control? This is the time when law abiding citizens must equip themselves with guns to protect from the pervasive Islam terrorists attacks.

As reported currently, there are hundreds or thousands of terror cells and Islam training camps around the country, particularly in strategic places like NY, Florida, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, and many other states. I've seen a video on TV that these terrorists are loaded with guns and ammunitions training, waiting for opportunity to attack us. When this happens how could law abiding citizens being attacked by terrorists protect themselves?

These terrorists are allowed to possess weapons and guns, but the American law abiding citizens are prohibited.
May I ask, are constitutional rights now given to terrorists and taken away from the American citizens?

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Jan 19, 2015 08:02:23   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
Nuclearian wrote:
The budget submitted by the President for the 2015 fiscal year contained some shocking tax and spending increases, but lost in the shuffle were Obama’s attempts to impose his gun control agenda. Resigned to the fact that gun control is not going to happen through acts of Congress, the president has been attempting to achieve his unconstitutional goals through the backdoor.

The White House released a statement regarding the gun control aspects of the budget:

Supports the “Now is the Time” initiative, the President’s plan to protect our children and our communities by reducing gun violence through improved background checks by the FBI and improved data via the National Criminal History Improvement Program, inspections of Federally-licensed firearms dealers, improved tracing and ballis­tics analysis, and efforts to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals. The Budget provides training for State and local law enforcement to prevent and respond to active shooters and prevent mass casualties, invests in programs to identify mental health issues early and continues the Comprehensive School Safety Program and other initiatives to enhance school security.

It just sounds like a bunch of “common sense” regulations that everybody could get behind to reduce gun violence, right? Well, if you look at what he’s really trying to do, you’ll realize these are some pretty scary rights-infringing gun control initiatives.

Improved background checks means a national gun registry. We already have a background check system that routinely denies convicted felons and other restricted persons from buying firearms. The system works, so why do we need to improve it? The answer is, it doesn’t. What Obama and the gun grabbers want to do is establish a national firearms registry and that has nothing to do with denying guns to bad guys and everything with taking guns away from good guys.

In addition, this new way of doing things would make it illegal to loan a gun to friend or gift one to a family member, making more criminals out of law-abiding citizens

More inspections of Federally-licensed firearms dealers is another backdoor gun control effort. Shut down the dealers; dry up the supply of firearms. FFLs have to keep a tremendous amount of paperwork, and any little mistake can result in the feds pulling the license. They say they are trying to stop unscrupulous gun dealers from selling to prohibited persons, but what they really want to do is shut down as many gun stores as possible.

Improved tracing and ballistics analysis is code for imposing micro-stamping and smart guns on the American people. These unproven technologies will not stop crime or help the police solve it. They will create a ban on all new guns like micro-stamping has done in California. Banning guns without this technology is a total ban as no guns exist with it.

Additional training and support for local law enforcement means a further militarization of the civilian police force. The White House claims it is tooling up the local cops to deal with mass shootings, but these incidents are beyond rare. Even when they do happen, police are too late; the carnage has been done. This escalation is not a response to spree killings, but rather a show of force by the feds and local police that increasingly view average citizens as the enemy.

Programs to identify mental health issues is another backdoor gun control effort. Can’t ban the guns? Ban the people. Obama wants to reclassify millions of Americans who have felt a little down or taken anti-depressants as mental health risks. As such, they would loose their 2nd Amendment rights with no mechanism for regaining them. This is the scariest of all his initiative because it involves both denial of rights and confiscation.

And lastly, we get Comprehensive School Safety Program. Despite its name, it will still leave all of our nations schools as soft-target “gun-free zones.” If the goal is to make our children safer, and it should be, we should put armed officers on every campus. We should train teachers and allow them to carry concealed weapons. The CSSP spends money looking for ways to stop armed madmen without the obvious solution of armed good guys.

Obama’s budget is predictably bad, but the backdoor gun control measures put it over the top in horribleness. Thankfully, Congress generally views the president’s budgets as comedy and not even a starting point for their eventual spending plan.
The budget submitted by the President for the 2015... (show quote)


He has a Gun , Stuck up His ASS too

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Jan 19, 2015 08:05:39   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
johnson90 wrote:
The people elected this criminal twice! Blame low info voters, progressive liberals, and the entitlement crowd for electing this cowardly criminal loser. I seen straight through the man when he was running the first time! and I would have thought that American citizens would have known better than to elect this criminal after he served his first term. Seeing how he proved to everyone how anti-American he is during his first term. Just goes to show how many IDIOTS we have living in the USA now. These low info losers will never realize how they are losing their freedoms until they find themselves living in a FEMA camp, AND they may not even care then as long as someone else is paying their bills.
The people elected this criminal twice! Blame low ... (show quote)

And as yet , After 7 Years . They Still have NO Idea , Who he is , or Anything about his DISGUSTING ILLEGAL FRAUD ASS .
:roll: :roll: :roll:

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Jan 19, 2015 08:09:05   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
son of witless wrote:
The low information voter is also the free stuff voter. Obama keeps using the US Treasury to buy votes and power. There is a famous quote that applies. It is attributed to many different men including Benjamin Franklin. It does not matter who said it first.

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”

Under B. Insane Obama the end is near.


<<< Doin the In case it happens thing . Preparation is Half the Battle

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Jan 19, 2015 08:12:09   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
maryla wrote:
I say he should be arrested...


Followed be a First Class HANGIN , or FIRING SQUD :-D . I will volunteer , to do Either . SHOOT , or Whip the Horse

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Jan 19, 2015 08:12:54   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Not familiar with 'Red Green' but I loved 'Fawlty Towers'. You are correct, John Cleese would have a field day with Obama.


Red Green is a Rip

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Jan 19, 2015 08:40:00   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
MrEd wrote:
This would be a good case for the States to nullify his actions. Since he cannot make law and neither can the ATF, anything either does is unconstitutional. Congress is the ONLY branch that can make laws and anything else can be nullified by the States, but even they cannot make unconstitutional laws.




:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

SEMPER FI

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Jan 19, 2015 08:43:28   #
jaydee
 
johnson90 wrote:
The people elected this criminal twice! Blame low info voters, progressive liberals, and the entitlement crowd for electing this cowardly criminal loser. I seen straight through the man when he was running the first time! and I would have thought that American citizens would have known better than to elect this criminal after he served his first term. Seeing how he proved to everyone how anti-American he is during his first term. Just goes to show how many IDIOTS we have living in the USA now. These low info losers will never realize how they are losing their freedoms until they find themselves living in a FEMA camp, AND they may not even care then as long as someone else is paying their bills.
The people elected this criminal twice! Blame low ... (show quote)


I didn't vote for him neither time either. Low info voter fell for all the gimmicks politicians use to.make themselves look good. A type of Elvis if you please.
The smile played a big part in electing Carter. Clinton got elected by being able to be a stump politician. President Porky got elected because Reid was impressed with his hair, Porky's ability to not say fow (for door) or dow (for door). They really dressed him to the tilt. All gimmicks to make politicians acceptable enough by ignorant people to get elected.
You see it's the ignorant voter that shows up to vote, that wins elections. Their vote is enough to swing an election. Tip the scales if you please.
You use that principle, plus all the other illegal voter fraud you can muster, from voting multiple times to loosing or trashing voting results to sabotaging voting machines, you will more than likely win.
Hate to spoil your party on picking a real conservative & that's the right thing to do, but still you know these things do exist and make a difference. We have to face the truth our electorial process is corrupt. Knowing it cannot be removed anytime soon, we have to go along to get a long to some degree. I don't mean to compromise our constitution, freedoms & liberty by that statement.
This is just a discussion on what I and others have discussed recently. Many of you will see it differently. But non the less, we can still speak freely.
Personally as I've stated before, like Rush, I believe there may not be another presidential election. If this guy can swing it he will most definately do it.
So thanks for the privilege to speak freely. A liberty that has cost many many lives. Thank you vets for your great sacrifice.

Remember, it was the truth that set us free, & it is the truth that keeps us free.

Good day(in loving memory of the late Paul Harvey).




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Jan 19, 2015 10:59:32   #
Sicilianthing
 
Nuclearian wrote:
The budget submitted by the President for the 2015 fiscal year contained some shocking tax and spending increases, but lost in the shuffle were Obama’s attempts to impose his gun control agenda. Resigned to the fact that gun control is not going to happen through acts of Congress, the president has been attempting to achieve his unconstitutional goals through the backdoor.

The White House released a statement regarding the gun control aspects of the budget:

Supports the “Now is the Time” initiative, the President’s plan to protect our children and our communities by reducing gun violence through improved background checks by the FBI and improved data via the National Criminal History Improvement Program, inspections of Federally-licensed firearms dealers, improved tracing and ballis­tics analysis, and efforts to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals. The Budget provides training for State and local law enforcement to prevent and respond to active shooters and prevent mass casualties, invests in programs to identify mental health issues early and continues the Comprehensive School Safety Program and other initiatives to enhance school security.

It just sounds like a bunch of “common sense” regulations that everybody could get behind to reduce gun violence, right? Well, if you look at what he’s really trying to do, you’ll realize these are some pretty scary rights-infringing gun control initiatives.

Improved background checks means a national gun registry. We already have a background check system that routinely denies convicted felons and other restricted persons from buying firearms. The system works, so why do we need to improve it? The answer is, it doesn’t. What Obama and the gun grabbers want to do is establish a national firearms registry and that has nothing to do with denying guns to bad guys and everything with taking guns away from good guys.

In addition, this new way of doing things would make it illegal to loan a gun to friend or gift one to a family member, making more criminals out of law-abiding citizens

More inspections of Federally-licensed firearms dealers is another backdoor gun control effort. Shut down the dealers; dry up the supply of firearms. FFLs have to keep a tremendous amount of paperwork, and any little mistake can result in the feds pulling the license. They say they are trying to stop unscrupulous gun dealers from selling to prohibited persons, but what they really want to do is shut down as many gun stores as possible.

Improved tracing and ballistics analysis is code for imposing micro-stamping and smart guns on the American people. These unproven technologies will not stop crime or help the police solve it. They will create a ban on all new guns like micro-stamping has done in California. Banning guns without this technology is a total ban as no guns exist with it.

Additional training and support for local law enforcement means a further militarization of the civilian police force. The White House claims it is tooling up the local cops to deal with mass shootings, but these incidents are beyond rare. Even when they do happen, police are too late; the carnage has been done. This escalation is not a response to spree killings, but rather a show of force by the feds and local police that increasingly view average citizens as the enemy.

Programs to identify mental health issues is another backdoor gun control effort. Can’t ban the guns? Ban the people. Obama wants to reclassify millions of Americans who have felt a little down or taken anti-depressants as mental health risks. As such, they would loose their 2nd Amendment rights with no mechanism for regaining them. This is the scariest of all his initiative because it involves both denial of rights and confiscation.

And lastly, we get Comprehensive School Safety Program. Despite its name, it will still leave all of our nations schools as soft-target “gun-free zones.” If the goal is to make our children safer, and it should be, we should put armed officers on every campus. We should train teachers and allow them to carry concealed weapons. The CSSP spends money looking for ways to stop armed madmen without the obvious solution of armed good guys.

Obama’s budget is predictably bad, but the backdoor gun control measures put it over the top in horribleness. Thankfully, Congress generally views the president’s budgets as comedy and not even a starting point for their eventual spending plan.
The budget submitted by the President for the 2015... (show quote)


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He's a SLIME BALL Fucking TRAITOR !

How much longer is the NRA going to put up with this ?

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Jan 19, 2015 12:31:07   #
Sicilianthing
 
shipfitter wrote:
That's Exactly as Ive said for Months or More . Till , Its proven that it Wont or Didn't . After OBOGUS is Dethroned by Force or Out in two years . I for one , am Staying LOCKED & LOADED . And Stocked up . MOLON LABE . Grugore ??? Hes ONLY Waiting for One Spark that gives him the Reason or Opportunity to Do it . I say GOOD F*CKIN LUCK . He does that ??? Hes History . Gone in less than a Week


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Millions of us are waiting and ready.

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