Obama Care: The gift that keeps on giving
Jan 1, 2015 11:19:17 #
Jerry A.
Loc: California
Workinman wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: Thank you!!
No Republican voted for OBAMACARE or any laws that help the american people, they only help the special interest who paid them $$$$ to hurt the poor and feed the rich.
Jan 1, 2015 11:27:53 #
bmac32 wrote:
ObamaCare was passed on March 21, 2010, signed into law March 23, 2010, republicans did not take control of the House until Jan. 6, 2011. No republican voted for ObamaCare, the whole thing belongs to the democrats.
If you would care to dig deeply enough you will find that Peelosi was the prime mover behind the passage of Obamacare. All Obama did was lie about it, mostly out of ignorance, and sign it into law. He knew even less about it than you and I. He is a total putz and schmuck.
Jan 1, 2015 11:30:27 #
Jan 1, 2015 11:31:34 #
Ronald Hatt
Loc: Lansing, Mich
Workinman wrote:
Well we have another look at the truth as it trick... (show quote)
Happy New Year America! Welcome to a "new", 75,000 page issue of new laws, & regulations, & higher taxes, that America, just cannot possible afford, or will not be able to pay! { by the away, Obammy, just signed for another "9000 Syrian refugees", to arrive in the U.S.A"}.....Who is going to "support" these people? Can they speak English? Will they get food stamps, & Social Security? ........Will they eventually push for "Sharia Law, & revoke our American Constitution?
Answers to these questions are: "Who cares?" Does America care? Do the "voters" care?
All this starting in 2015! Seniors......get ready for your appointment with the death panels......{ you aren't going to like this }.......Brought to America, by the "youth" that stands to "inherit" wealth from their parents......Ironic ain't it? Is this God's plan?....."NO".....not any more than Sodom & Gomorrah.....God allowed those people to "fornicate themselves to death".......Kinda like what Barak Hussein Obama, has done......."BUT".....contrary to what Libtards believe......Obama, is not God! He must be the "Anti-Christ: Pro Abortion, pro homosexual, & transgender, dope dealing & using, Anti-American!
This "used to be a great country to live in"!.......ONCE UPON A TIME! The "fairy tale" is over!
Jan 1, 2015 15:34:39 #
PoppaGringo wrote:
If you would care to dig deeply enough you will find that Peelosi was the prime mover behind the passage of Obamacare. All Obama did was lie about it, mostly out of ignorance, and sign it into law. He knew even less about it than you and I. He is a total putz and schmuck.
You have that right!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Jan 1, 2015 15:54:24 #
rkevin
Loc: florida
Jerry A. wrote:
Mr. Jonathan Gruber was right "ACA" passed in our corrupt U.S. Congress lower the Medical care cost by declining or limiting coverage and increasing deductibles and premiums. President OBAMA proposed the "public option" like cost control but the majority in the U.S. Congress eliminated for the money they received from the Medical monopoly, don't blame President OBAMA.
ONLY Democrats voted for "Obamacare!!!" "Don't blame Obama???" You gotta' be kidding!!!
Jan 1, 2015 17:12:01 #
Ronald Hatt
Loc: Lansing, Mich
Workinman wrote:
You have that right!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Don't forget the "retired" Catholic, Michigan State Police Trooper: Bart "the traitor" Stupak.......cast the final "yes" vote! Wonder if the Pope knows that?
Michigan is "NOT" proud of Stupidpak!
Jan 1, 2015 17:52:50 #
Who signed that bill making it become law? Obama!
Jerry A. wrote:
Don't blame President OBAMA for the american DUMMIES who voted for the corrupted members of U.S. Congress who passed the best laws money can buy.
Jan 1, 2015 19:03:44 #
HE SIGNED THE DAM THING.
rkevin wrote:
ONLY Democrats voted for "Obamacare!!!" "Don't blame Obama???" You gotta' be kidding!!!
Jan 1, 2015 20:45:49 #
Jerry A.
Loc: California
PoppaGringo wrote:
If you would care to dig deeply enough you will find that Peelosi was the prime mover behind the passage of Obamacare. All Obama did was lie about it, mostly out of ignorance, and sign it into law. He knew even less about it than you and I. He is a total putz and schmuck.
You repeating the same bull....sh....all the time, enough is enough, the Democrats and Republicans are representing the special interest for the $$$$$ money they received to water down OBAMACARE that it's not the best medical coverage, but it's better than nothing.
Jan 1, 2015 20:45:50 #
Jerry A.
Loc: California
PoppaGringo wrote:
If you would care to dig deeply enough you will find that Peelosi was the prime mover behind the passage of Obamacare. All Obama did was lie about it, mostly out of ignorance, and sign it into law. He knew even less about it than you and I. He is a total putz and schmuck.
You repeating the same bull....sh....all the time, enough is enough, Democrats and Republicans are representing the special interest only for the $$$$$ money they received to water down OBAMACARE that it's not the best medical coverage, but it's better than nothing.
Check out topic: Lies and more lies
Jan 1, 2015 21:15:01 #
Jerry A.
Loc: California
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Happy New Year America! Welcome to a "new&qu... (show quote)
Stop the same bull....sh....in the Political Forum's post and think about who will be the next President in 2016, the Federal deficit keep going up and everything is made in CHINA since 1995.
Jan 1, 2015 21:23:12 #
Jerry A. wrote:
You repeating the same bull....sh....all the time, enough is enough, the Democrats and Republicans are representing the special interest for the $$$$$ money they received to water down OBAMACARE that it's not the best medical coverage, but it's better than nothing.
just for the leaches,working men are going to pay for your shit so do us all a favor and die.
Jan 1, 2015 21:42:57 #
A quote from Ben Stein:
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.
And now, any of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.
And now, any of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens.
Jan 1, 2015 21:45:14 #
A little more food for thought, Workinman~~~Reality at our door~~
from Michelle Malkin..........
http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2014/12/31/obamacares-annus-horribilis-n1937250/page/full
all but the last sentence............
"There's no candy coating the truth: Obamacare has had a very terrible, horrible, crappy, none-too-happy year. What it really means is that the victims of Obamacare -- taxpayers, health care consumers, health care providers, employers and employees -- have had a hellish, nightmarish 2014.
Let's start with premiums. President Candy Land promised that he'd "lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year." But premiums for people in the individual market for health insurance have spiked over the last year. In fact, Forbes health policy journalist Avik Roy and the Manhattan Institute analyzed 3,137 counties and found that individual market premiums rose an average of 49 percent.
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services itself admitted this month that average premiums will rise at least five percent for the lowest-cost plans offered by federal Obamacare health care exchanges. Democrats' reaction? Obamacare rate shock doesn't matter ... because government is redistributing the burden and taxpayers are footing the bill! HHS crowed this week that nearly 90 percent of exchange enrollees received public subsidies in order to pay their premiums.
"Affordable" doesn't mean what White House truth-warpers says it means -- just like everything else they've spewed about the doomed federal takeover of health policy in America.
As the White House tries to hype year-end enrollment numbers and hide Obamacare-imposed cancellations, just remember that the administration got caught this fall cooking the books by including 380,000 dental plan subscribers that have never been counted before. Innocent oopsie? The "erroneous" inflation just happened to push the Obamacare enrollment figures over the president's 7 million goal, while fudging the attrition of more than 1 million enrolled in Obamacare medical insurance plans.
A "mistake was made," HHS 'fessed up after GOP investigators discovered the Common Core math antics. Lying liars. Caught red-handed.
So, how about: "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor?" Well, not if he or she isn't practicing anymore. After scoffing at conservative warnings for years that socialized medicine-light would create doctor shortages, Obamacare cheerleaders can no longer whitewash the grim reality. The Physicians Foundation found that 81 percent of doctors believe they are "either overextended or at full capacity." Another 44 percent said they "planned to cut back on the number of patients they see, retire, work part-time or close their practice to new patients."
Analysts on all sides of the debate agree that massive cuts in Medicaid payments to primary care doctors, which take effect on Jan. 1, will reduce patient access. Meanwhile, a Commonwealth Fund survey found that 26 percent of American adults waited six days or more to see a doctor -- with only Canada and Norway performing worse. A separate physicians' staffing company's poll, reported by the left-wing New York Times, found that patients "waited an average of 29 days nationally to see a dermatologist [,] 66 days to have a physical in Boston and 32 days for a heart evaluation by a cardiologist in Washington."
Translation: If you like your doctor, it doesn't mean you'll get to see your doctor. Tick, tick, tick.
How about Obama's pledge to lower costs? A Congressional Budget Office reported earlier this year that implementation will cost taxpayers $2 trillion over the next decade. That's just the direct costs. Obamacare's job-killing regulations continue to discourage businesses from expanding and force more bosses to slash hours to avoid the employer mandate.
Based on estimates by Harvard and University of Chicago economists, health care policy analyst John Goodman concludes that the "indirect cost to the economy ... equals more than $8,000 per household per year -- or four times the size of the direct budget outlays."
This includes the tax on innovation. As I've reported over the last four years, Obamacare's reviled medical-device tax has forced companies to cut back on research and development, in addition to catalyzing layoffs of at least 33,000 workers over the past year. A recent study by the New York Federal Reserve found that half of the state's medical device manufacturers were bracing for "considerably" higher health care costs as a result of Obamacare rules. These include "higher deductibles, increased copays, higher out-of-pocket maximums and an increased employee contribution to the premium."
Who's "stupid" now? The fallout from intrepid Philadelphia investment adviser and citizen researcher Rich Weinstein's exposure of Obamacare architect/deceiver Jonathan Gruber has only just begun. Far worse than Gruber's insult of American voters, Weinstein notes, is the annual $250 billion tax grab at the heart of Gruber and Company's scheme. Obamacare's so-called "Cadillac tax" on expensive health plans was purposely "mislabeled," Gruber said in video uncovered by Weinstein, in order to pass a tax that will eventually hit all employer plans.
Separately, insurers have been lobbying for a total taxpayer bailout of an estimated $1 billion in 2014. Meanwhile, beleaguered Obamacare non-profit "co-ops" that were supposed to lower costs have sucked up $2 billion in loans to date and hundreds of millions more in emergency solvency funding this year.
The worst is yet to come. Before the midterms, panicked and politically driven Obama bureaucrats delayed premium payment deadlines, high-risk insurance pool cancellations and onerous "meaningful use" mandates on health providers grappling with Obamacare's disastrous top-down electronic medical records rules. Those chickens will come home to roost in 2015.
One silver lining: A total of 16 Senators who voted for the federal health care takeover either failed to win re-election or declined to run for re-election."
Happy New Year.............
from Michelle Malkin..........
http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2014/12/31/obamacares-annus-horribilis-n1937250/page/full
all but the last sentence............
"There's no candy coating the truth: Obamacare has had a very terrible, horrible, crappy, none-too-happy year. What it really means is that the victims of Obamacare -- taxpayers, health care consumers, health care providers, employers and employees -- have had a hellish, nightmarish 2014.
Let's start with premiums. President Candy Land promised that he'd "lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year." But premiums for people in the individual market for health insurance have spiked over the last year. In fact, Forbes health policy journalist Avik Roy and the Manhattan Institute analyzed 3,137 counties and found that individual market premiums rose an average of 49 percent.
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services itself admitted this month that average premiums will rise at least five percent for the lowest-cost plans offered by federal Obamacare health care exchanges. Democrats' reaction? Obamacare rate shock doesn't matter ... because government is redistributing the burden and taxpayers are footing the bill! HHS crowed this week that nearly 90 percent of exchange enrollees received public subsidies in order to pay their premiums.
"Affordable" doesn't mean what White House truth-warpers says it means -- just like everything else they've spewed about the doomed federal takeover of health policy in America.
As the White House tries to hype year-end enrollment numbers and hide Obamacare-imposed cancellations, just remember that the administration got caught this fall cooking the books by including 380,000 dental plan subscribers that have never been counted before. Innocent oopsie? The "erroneous" inflation just happened to push the Obamacare enrollment figures over the president's 7 million goal, while fudging the attrition of more than 1 million enrolled in Obamacare medical insurance plans.
A "mistake was made," HHS 'fessed up after GOP investigators discovered the Common Core math antics. Lying liars. Caught red-handed.
So, how about: "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor?" Well, not if he or she isn't practicing anymore. After scoffing at conservative warnings for years that socialized medicine-light would create doctor shortages, Obamacare cheerleaders can no longer whitewash the grim reality. The Physicians Foundation found that 81 percent of doctors believe they are "either overextended or at full capacity." Another 44 percent said they "planned to cut back on the number of patients they see, retire, work part-time or close their practice to new patients."
Analysts on all sides of the debate agree that massive cuts in Medicaid payments to primary care doctors, which take effect on Jan. 1, will reduce patient access. Meanwhile, a Commonwealth Fund survey found that 26 percent of American adults waited six days or more to see a doctor -- with only Canada and Norway performing worse. A separate physicians' staffing company's poll, reported by the left-wing New York Times, found that patients "waited an average of 29 days nationally to see a dermatologist [,] 66 days to have a physical in Boston and 32 days for a heart evaluation by a cardiologist in Washington."
Translation: If you like your doctor, it doesn't mean you'll get to see your doctor. Tick, tick, tick.
How about Obama's pledge to lower costs? A Congressional Budget Office reported earlier this year that implementation will cost taxpayers $2 trillion over the next decade. That's just the direct costs. Obamacare's job-killing regulations continue to discourage businesses from expanding and force more bosses to slash hours to avoid the employer mandate.
Based on estimates by Harvard and University of Chicago economists, health care policy analyst John Goodman concludes that the "indirect cost to the economy ... equals more than $8,000 per household per year -- or four times the size of the direct budget outlays."
This includes the tax on innovation. As I've reported over the last four years, Obamacare's reviled medical-device tax has forced companies to cut back on research and development, in addition to catalyzing layoffs of at least 33,000 workers over the past year. A recent study by the New York Federal Reserve found that half of the state's medical device manufacturers were bracing for "considerably" higher health care costs as a result of Obamacare rules. These include "higher deductibles, increased copays, higher out-of-pocket maximums and an increased employee contribution to the premium."
Who's "stupid" now? The fallout from intrepid Philadelphia investment adviser and citizen researcher Rich Weinstein's exposure of Obamacare architect/deceiver Jonathan Gruber has only just begun. Far worse than Gruber's insult of American voters, Weinstein notes, is the annual $250 billion tax grab at the heart of Gruber and Company's scheme. Obamacare's so-called "Cadillac tax" on expensive health plans was purposely "mislabeled," Gruber said in video uncovered by Weinstein, in order to pass a tax that will eventually hit all employer plans.
Separately, insurers have been lobbying for a total taxpayer bailout of an estimated $1 billion in 2014. Meanwhile, beleaguered Obamacare non-profit "co-ops" that were supposed to lower costs have sucked up $2 billion in loans to date and hundreds of millions more in emergency solvency funding this year.
The worst is yet to come. Before the midterms, panicked and politically driven Obama bureaucrats delayed premium payment deadlines, high-risk insurance pool cancellations and onerous "meaningful use" mandates on health providers grappling with Obamacare's disastrous top-down electronic medical records rules. Those chickens will come home to roost in 2015.
One silver lining: A total of 16 Senators who voted for the federal health care takeover either failed to win re-election or declined to run for re-election."
Happy New Year.............
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