Hillary Clinton Shifting Left to Meet Democrat Base
Dec 30, 2014 14:23:27 #
Thunder wrote:
RH--- Jeb B. is sure HELL not a conservative . If he is nominated Hilaby is sure to win . The SHEEPLE are still asleep loaded on the cattle truck on their way to the Slaughter house ! Amerika is history !
soon to be Estados Unitas De Mexico anyhow
over a thousand a day pouring across texas border
then theres new mexico and California
and don't forget the many thousands of islamists being dumped in our states by the present administration
WAKE UP AMERICA
Dec 30, 2014 16:58:31 #
badbobby ; We can expect nothing else from the state of CALIFORNICATE ! The sinking within is brought to you by our so- called Fed. Gov. in Wash. 10 sq. miles Surrounded by Reality !
Dec 31, 2014 02:46:37 #
Thunder wrote:
I NOMONATE -- Trey Gowdy -- Kickin ASS -- Taken names -- NO EXCUSES PERIOD !
Perfect for the AG position but we see what BO went with didn't we..He doesn't want honesty and integrity he wants the slip shot, yes people that pander to his every whim and "do what he wants"..Another Holder in other words...
President, I'm not sure he's ready for that, but do love the man..He does kick but and ask question not later, but right in your face, until he gets the answer...... :thumbup: :thumbup:
Dec 31, 2014 08:00:56 #
A little something to consider~
http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelgerson/2014/12/29/wpoped-n1936693/page/full
all but the last sentence.........
"WASHINGTON -- One outcome of and proof for ideological polarization is the way it has made stalwarts appear like centrists. In what world is Hillary Clinton -- feminist heroine, author of Hillarycare, sworn enemy of the vast right-wing conspiracy -- not progressive enough? In what parallel universe is Jeb Bush -- a tax-slashing, school-voucher-supporting, pro-gun former Southern governor -- some kind of moderate?
George Wallace, who managed to be foolish on an amazing variety of topics, claimed there wasn't "a dime's worth of difference" between the Democratic and Republican parties. It wasn't really true in 1968. It is dramatically less true today. The political parties have sorted themselves both regionally and ideologically. A recent survey by the Pew Research Center found that across a variety of policy issues, "Democrats now give uniformly liberal responses, and more Republicans give uniformly conservative responses than at any point in the last 20 years."
Clinton and Bush are each, roughly, in the mainstream of their respective parties. But those streams have dramatically diverged. A Clinton-Bush presidential contest would be among the clearest choices in modern political history. Yet for some -- who prefer an ideological palette consisting entirely of neon colors -- the contrast is not nearly vivid enough.
The main question for Democrats in 2015: Will there emerge a credible challenge to Clinton from the populist left? There were hints of mutiny in Sen. Elizabeth Warren's opposition to the recent omnibus spending measure. There are whispers of rebellion in Sen. Al Franken's opposition to Antonio Weiss -- President Obama's nominee to a senior Treasury Department post -- for the crime of coziness with Wall Street. There is open mutiny over at MoveOn.org, which is circulating a draft Warren petition. "The establishment Dems need to be punished," says the leaked email of one progressive activist, "and the best way for that to happen is for Warren to beat Hillary in the primary on a populist message."
It is difficult to imagine the Zuccotti Park progressives gaining much traction without Warren making a determined run at the nomination. But they have an advantage and a precedent: Clinton is a politician of average skill, and she was defeated in 2008 with the help of the anti-war left.
The main question for Republicans in 2015: Will they use their midterm victory to address serious gaps in their public appeal and set the stage for a credible nominee?
With control of both the Senate and House, Republicans will need to advance a popular version of their agenda -- on health care, welfare reform, higher education -- knowing that their efforts will be killed by a filibuster or a veto but trusting they will present their best face to the public. The strategy involves conducting small, carefully orchestrated fights over policy rather than forcing cataclysmic battles over funding. This is what control of Congress allows: defining advantageous issues on which to argue rather than treating government as a yes-or-no question.
But the approach presupposes a broad Republican belief that they have an image problem in the first place. After the GOP's 2010 congressional victory, many conservatives thought that all that was required was greater ideological daring and the country would follow along. Then came the 2012 presidential election and the 2013 government shutdown. "They scoffed that the American people would rise up," said Sen. Ted Cruz after a shutdown that most Americans opposed, and which pushed favorable opinion of GOP to historic lows.
After a convincing 2014 victory, will Republicans use the opportunity for necessary repositioning on issues that help (and are perceived to help) middle-class families? Or will they seek ideological showdowns on issues -- debt, immigration, Obamacare repeal -- that they present as apocalyptic struggles over the future and nature of the republic?
The tests will come early. A significant portion of the Republican House caucus wants bold action in February to challenge Obama's executive order on immigration. Some conservatives (against the advice of their leaders) may want to demand White House concessions in exchange for a debt-limit increase. Both of these issues could be traps -- games of chicken with a president who has little left to lose. And they could end up wounding rather than helping the GOP presidential nominee.
Those who judge a Bush-Clinton race to be a tired retread or disturbingly dynastic should consider the more novel and dynamic alternatives. A Warren-Cruz race would be less of an electoral choice than a national trauma."
that red highlight is a crock of sh*t.............voting Bush would be the same as voting liberal/democrat............he and Hillary are not that different when looked at honestly.......they're both establishment party hacks.........and, like him or not, George Wallace was correct, even if telling the future rather than his present.......there ain't a dime's worth of difference in the two establishment parties...............
http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelgerson/2014/12/29/wpoped-n1936693/page/full
all but the last sentence.........
"WASHINGTON -- One outcome of and proof for ideological polarization is the way it has made stalwarts appear like centrists. In what world is Hillary Clinton -- feminist heroine, author of Hillarycare, sworn enemy of the vast right-wing conspiracy -- not progressive enough? In what parallel universe is Jeb Bush -- a tax-slashing, school-voucher-supporting, pro-gun former Southern governor -- some kind of moderate?
George Wallace, who managed to be foolish on an amazing variety of topics, claimed there wasn't "a dime's worth of difference" between the Democratic and Republican parties. It wasn't really true in 1968. It is dramatically less true today. The political parties have sorted themselves both regionally and ideologically. A recent survey by the Pew Research Center found that across a variety of policy issues, "Democrats now give uniformly liberal responses, and more Republicans give uniformly conservative responses than at any point in the last 20 years."
Clinton and Bush are each, roughly, in the mainstream of their respective parties. But those streams have dramatically diverged. A Clinton-Bush presidential contest would be among the clearest choices in modern political history. Yet for some -- who prefer an ideological palette consisting entirely of neon colors -- the contrast is not nearly vivid enough.
The main question for Democrats in 2015: Will there emerge a credible challenge to Clinton from the populist left? There were hints of mutiny in Sen. Elizabeth Warren's opposition to the recent omnibus spending measure. There are whispers of rebellion in Sen. Al Franken's opposition to Antonio Weiss -- President Obama's nominee to a senior Treasury Department post -- for the crime of coziness with Wall Street. There is open mutiny over at MoveOn.org, which is circulating a draft Warren petition. "The establishment Dems need to be punished," says the leaked email of one progressive activist, "and the best way for that to happen is for Warren to beat Hillary in the primary on a populist message."
It is difficult to imagine the Zuccotti Park progressives gaining much traction without Warren making a determined run at the nomination. But they have an advantage and a precedent: Clinton is a politician of average skill, and she was defeated in 2008 with the help of the anti-war left.
The main question for Republicans in 2015: Will they use their midterm victory to address serious gaps in their public appeal and set the stage for a credible nominee?
With control of both the Senate and House, Republicans will need to advance a popular version of their agenda -- on health care, welfare reform, higher education -- knowing that their efforts will be killed by a filibuster or a veto but trusting they will present their best face to the public. The strategy involves conducting small, carefully orchestrated fights over policy rather than forcing cataclysmic battles over funding. This is what control of Congress allows: defining advantageous issues on which to argue rather than treating government as a yes-or-no question.
But the approach presupposes a broad Republican belief that they have an image problem in the first place. After the GOP's 2010 congressional victory, many conservatives thought that all that was required was greater ideological daring and the country would follow along. Then came the 2012 presidential election and the 2013 government shutdown. "They scoffed that the American people would rise up," said Sen. Ted Cruz after a shutdown that most Americans opposed, and which pushed favorable opinion of GOP to historic lows.
After a convincing 2014 victory, will Republicans use the opportunity for necessary repositioning on issues that help (and are perceived to help) middle-class families? Or will they seek ideological showdowns on issues -- debt, immigration, Obamacare repeal -- that they present as apocalyptic struggles over the future and nature of the republic?
The tests will come early. A significant portion of the Republican House caucus wants bold action in February to challenge Obama's executive order on immigration. Some conservatives (against the advice of their leaders) may want to demand White House concessions in exchange for a debt-limit increase. Both of these issues could be traps -- games of chicken with a president who has little left to lose. And they could end up wounding rather than helping the GOP presidential nominee.
Those who judge a Bush-Clinton race to be a tired retread or disturbingly dynastic should consider the more novel and dynamic alternatives. A Warren-Cruz race would be less of an electoral choice than a national trauma."
that red highlight is a crock of sh*t.............voting Bush would be the same as voting liberal/democrat............he and Hillary are not that different when looked at honestly.......they're both establishment party hacks.........and, like him or not, George Wallace was correct, even if telling the future rather than his present.......there ain't a dime's worth of difference in the two establishment parties...............
Dec 31, 2014 08:04:45 #
Dec 31, 2014 09:03:09 #
lindajoy : As you reminded us of what Geo. Wallace said NOT A DIMES WORTH OF DIFFERANCE !Same oh Chit just a different time period .
Dec 31, 2014 09:09:49 #
Thunder wrote:
lindajoy : As you reminded us of what Geo. Wallace said NOT A DIMES WORTH OF DIFFERANCE !Same oh Chit just a different time period .
Yes, thunder, it is, unfortunately..
We the People can and do make a difference though, November elections proved that... Difficult at best, but if WE stay the course and ride the arses of the new kids on the block we can and will make the necessary changes..It is after all, up to us, isn't it?? It is OUR country, right? They are our elected, right now, we just don't sit back, we dog their every move and if they don't do as they said~~call them on it NOW, not later....
Don't give up, I'm filled with optimism, and very hopeful Jan 2015 rings in with luster and go get em..That's my message to my elected and I do remind them enough that they will act or they will go~~~
:-D
And here~~More said in it than not~~Smile just to smile..A new year upon us~~May yours be filled with all you wish for and may you smile, just to smile~~Happy New Year~~~
Dec 31, 2014 09:59:25 #
Ronald Hatt wrote:
I often think about O'Bozo resigning, But with loose lips smokin Joe next in line we don't have much choice, but to wait it out, That is if this f----- does not destroy us first !SOOOOOOO MANY GOOD PEOPLE/SHEEPLE, WILL "DIE"
TOO BAD IT HAS TO COME TO THIS......."IF" ONLY KING OBAMUSLIM, WOULD VOLUNTARILY RESIGN HIS ILLEGITIMATE POST.........MANY LIVES WOULD BE SAVED.........OBAMA, HAS LONGED FOR THIS WAR OF RACISM TO HAPPEN FOR SO LONG.......HE JUST DOESN'T CARE "WHO" DIES, AS LONG AS THEY ARE "POOR BLACKS, & WHITES", & SENIORS OF ANY COLOR........MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO HIM!
TOO BAD IT HAS TO COME TO THIS......."IF" ONLY KING OBAMUSLIM, WOULD VOLUNTARILY RESIGN HIS ILLEGITIMATE POST.........MANY LIVES WOULD BE SAVED.........OBAMA, HAS LONGED FOR THIS WAR OF RACISM TO HAPPEN FOR SO LONG.......HE JUST DOESN'T CARE "WHO" DIES, AS LONG AS THEY ARE "POOR BLACKS, & WHITES", & SENIORS OF ANY COLOR........MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO HIM!
Dec 31, 2014 11:55:23 #
pappadeux-- not as chance of Obumer resigning . I have serious doubts if he will be leaving at end of his term . it is ALL about King Obumer the NARCISSIST !
lindajoy : You and family have a great New Year Eve and a good up coming yr. I PRAY for this once great country she is in SERIOUS trouble . We must put aside our differences to save her . Now the question is ? --- How do we wake up the SHEEPLE sliding down the slippery chute toward the Slaughter House ?
lindajoy : You and family have a great New Year Eve and a good up coming yr. I PRAY for this once great country she is in SERIOUS trouble . We must put aside our differences to save her . Now the question is ? --- How do we wake up the SHEEPLE sliding down the slippery chute toward the Slaughter House ?
Dec 31, 2014 12:01:17 #
Thunder wrote:
pappadeux-- not as chance of Obumer resigning . I have serious doubts if he will be leaving at end of his term . it is ALL about King Obumer the NARCISSIST !
lindajoy : You and family have a great New Year Eve and a good up coming yr. I PRAY for this once great country she is in SERIOUS trouble . We must put aside our differences to save her . Now the question is ? --- How do we wake up the SHEEPLE sliding down the slippery chute toward the Slaughter House ?
lindajoy : You and family have a great New Year Eve and a good up coming yr. I PRAY for this once great country she is in SERIOUS trouble . We must put aside our differences to save her . Now the question is ? --- How do we wake up the SHEEPLE sliding down the slippery chute toward the Slaughter House ?
She is, but She has also withstood much more than the likes of that POS in office....Prayer is a good place to start, followed by riding the coat tails of our House of Representatives and making sure they get it right this time......And we can!!!
Dec 31, 2014 13:53:42 #
Thunder wrote:
For what ever it's worth, I was Geo. Wallace's Pa. campaign manager in 72 up to June, and we all know what happened then. I am now retired and do political cartoons.lindajoy : As you reminded us of what Geo. Wallace said NOT A DIMES WORTH OF DIFFERANCE !Same oh Chit just a different time period .
Dec 31, 2014 14:04:23 #
LOL LOL -- That's is a good one pappadeux. Geo. got 10 Million+ votes -- I was one of them . I used to vote Republicrap till 1994 and Contract With Amerika -- More BS and I gave up on them .
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