Seed Libraries Struggle With State Laws Limiting Exchanges
Dec 29, 2014 10:41:14 #
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) Gardeners at hundreds of spots around the country are sharing seeds as part of an increasing interest in locally grown food, but some agriculture officials say the well-meaning effort violates state laws.
In spots like Duluth, Minnesota, the conflict has surprised gardeners and library officials who never thought to examine the intricacies of state seed laws.
Agriculture officials say they werent looking for a fight but must enforce laws that are intended to protect farmers by ensuring seeds are viable, will grow the intended plant and arent mixed with unwanted seeds for weeds or plants.
Advocates of seed-sharing programs said they dont necessarily blame agriculture departments, but some express frustration that laws focus on the needs of modern hybrid seed producers while limiting age-old, person-to-person seed exchanges.
AP
In spots like Duluth, Minnesota, the conflict has surprised gardeners and library officials who never thought to examine the intricacies of state seed laws.
Agriculture officials say they werent looking for a fight but must enforce laws that are intended to protect farmers by ensuring seeds are viable, will grow the intended plant and arent mixed with unwanted seeds for weeds or plants.
Advocates of seed-sharing programs said they dont necessarily blame agriculture departments, but some express frustration that laws focus on the needs of modern hybrid seed producers while limiting age-old, person-to-person seed exchanges.
AP
Dec 29, 2014 10:58:14 #
JMHO wrote:
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I don't see a problem with people sending seeds in the mail to each other. It's not like they have to fill out a customs form. Just do it and shut up about it and there you go, no problem.
Dec 29, 2014 10:59:59 #
Blacksheep wrote:
I don't see a problem with people sending seeds in the mail to each other. It's not like they have to fill out a customs form. Just do it and shut up about it and there you go, no problem.
Good point. What this is referring to, I think, is seed swapping, and selling, at fairs, swap meets, farmer's markets, etc. More laws are being passed due to pressure from big conglomerates like Monsanto who are flooding the market with GMO seeds.
Dec 29, 2014 11:13:29 #
JMHO wrote:
Good point. What this is referring to, I think, is seed swapping, and selling, at fairs, swap meets, farmer's markets, etc. More laws are being passed due to pressure from big conglomerates like Monsanto who are flooding the market with GMO seeds.
I see. Well, then they should be congratulated for opening up a whole, brand new underground seed railroad and seed black market. Nothing like repressive laws to create backlash.
Dec 29, 2014 11:55:30 #
Blacksheep wrote:
I see. Well, then they should be congratulated for opening up a whole, brand new underground seed railroad and seed black market. Nothing like repressive laws to create backlash.
Will they criminalize if next? How much can govt. protec t us from ourselves? "Mr. Jones, you are charged with sharing seeds. How do you plead?".
Dec 29, 2014 12:01:16 #
Blacksheep wrote:
I see. Well, then they should be congratulated for opening up a whole, brand new underground seed railroad and seed black market. Nothing like repressive laws to create backlash.
"And you tell me over and over and over again, my friend. You don't believe we're on the seeds of destruction".
Dec 29, 2014 12:12:54 #
stevenkalka wrote:
"And you tell me over and over and over again, my friend. You don't believe we're on the seeds of destruction".
Eve, eve of destruction. Eve.
Dec 29, 2014 12:33:32 #
Dec 29, 2014 12:42:35 #
JMHO wrote:
Loved that song.
Me too. That and "It's 1,2,3, what are we fighting for? Don't ask me now, I don't give a damn". And the Doors, especially Light My Fire. Those were fun times.
Dec 29, 2014 12:46:46 #
Blacksheep wrote:
Me too. That and "It's 1,2,3, what are we fighting for? Don't ask me now, I don't give a damn". And the Doors, especially Light My Fire. Those were fun times.
I agree...especially the long version of the Doors "Light My Fire." Great music back then.
Dec 29, 2014 12:58:41 #
JMHO wrote:
I agree...especially the long version of the Doors "Light My Fire." Great music back then.
You talked me into it. The long version is now blasting from my speakers. :P
Dec 29, 2014 15:35:13 #
Monsanto at work. Our entire food chain is at serious risk world wide. Don't take my word for it. Research it. Monsanto has not been able to cover all their tracks.
JMHO wrote:
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Dec 29, 2014 15:35:42 #
Monsanto at work. Our entire food chain is at serious risk world wide. Don't take my word for it. Research it. Monsanto has not been able to cover all their tracks.
JMHO wrote:
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) Gardeners at hundreds of s... (show quote)
Dec 29, 2014 15:59:49 #
Blacksheep wrote:
You talked me into it. The long version is now blasting from my speakers. :P
Yes, those were great songs. If I want to hear them, I need to do so on my pc speakers via Youtube. My preamp of 26 years no longer works, and the currently made ones don't have turntable inputs.
You need to replace them with separate phono preamps, and the end result is usually more distorted sound.
Dec 29, 2014 16:20:32 #
stevenkalka wrote:
Yes, those were great songs. If I want to hear them, I need to do so on my pc speakers via Youtube. My preamp of 26 years no longer works, and the currently made ones don't have turntable inputs.
You need to replace them with separate phono preamps, and the end result is usually more distorted sound.
You need to replace them with separate phono preamps, and the end result is usually more distorted sound.
Still using the stereo I bought in 1984. Hafler electronics, Qysonic speaker array.
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