Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Reagan did make mistakes, but he manned up and owned them. That's what real leaders do. And leadership like that is required before problem solving can take place.

You can't work with an administration on correcting mistakes if they're too arrogant to admit they've ever made one, and you can't deal with the administration's party in the congress if they pretend to be stupid enough to believe the obvious lies from the administration, and if nobody in that party give's a shit who dies.

skott Loc: Bama

Please Dave, he made the same mistake three times, before the problem was solved for a total of over 400 American soldier deaths. That is much worse than 4 deaths, due to bad intelligence.
Tell the 400 dead soldiers that it is O.K., because he owned up to making the same mistake 3 times.
How about take your stupid bias away.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Where do you get your 3 time thing?

And BTW - It wasn't bad intel in Benghazi, everyone and had already pulled out except America. It was a purposeful act of arrogance and an inability to admit their failures of leadership.

And Skott, I can be accurately accused of many things by many people, but you accusing anyone of a stupid bias is just laughable.

Comment Loc: California

You have no proof f the contrary. Answer this question: Why is it ok for Obuma to order the killing of American citizens without a trial, when they have not been charged or convicted in any court in the united States? These murdered individuals civil rights have been violated. It's absolutely clear.

All of the so called tortured individuals have been released and have all their faculties in place to kill more Americans. Yet, Obuma murders Americans and that is ok with Dumocraps. Let me ask you this.: Which group would you rather be in? I think I have nailed you silly as to the wall. If not, I got you between a rock and a hard place. Come on and give some more of your stupidity.

KHH1

*yeah...i hope your stupid azz thinks someone is posting monkey pictures and calling it me and I'm supposed to just chill...ain't going to happen.....you never said schit about that either pinkie**

Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH

Human nature, apart from God's saving grace through Christ, is evil to the core. All Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives (plus everyone else) are human therefore have a basic intrinsic sin nature.

That which hurts America the most are us citizenry and our politicians who care more for the support of their party or position than for righteousness.

There is plenty of evil in any and all parties (and nonparties) to go around. No one people or party has a market on righteousness. Let's not haggle parties but what is right and good.

John Adams said it best: "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

kerrye

Hey, if hooking up some raghead's nuts to a generator is going to make him tell what he knows, then I have only one comment. Red is positive, black is negative.

Liberty Tree

No, according to Hillary we are to respect those who kill Americans, according to Obama we should appologize to them for seeking justice when they kill Americans, and according to the Senate Dems we should produce a propaganda report that blames America for harsh questioning of those who behead Americans, and then our enemies will love us and make peace.

melbell Loc: California / Kentucky

you may or may not be interested in the following book that I read.
Bible Battles BC.

As a society we can not turn the other cheek as you suggest.
You do realize the goal of Islam.
Islam wants to subject half the world's population to barbaric and inhumane conditions. Islam is devoid of Human Rights filled with abuse and torture justified by the theocratic teachings of the quaran .Every terrorist group associated with Islam believes in male domination. Islam is the most sexist oppressive one world domination type facing our world today.
They are truly radical. The long fostered relationship between Islam and communism., is now openly participated in under the banner of international socialist.

I do not hate / oppose them because of the color of their skin.
I do not oppose them because they call upon God by a different name.
I do not advocate the killing of non aggressors . They do.
I will never accept Islam . Islam is a theocratic system of oppression and abuse.
Under Islam women and animals are habitually abused because it condones such practices.
Under Islam killing as many women possible of opposing ideas is encouraged.
Under Islam women and children have endured atrocities unimaginable.
Under Islam lying to further subject a people is permitted practiced and pardoned.
The rights and freedoms provided by western culture to women allow us to defend ourselves against those who would rape torture enslave and see the women as chattel
I oppose Islam because I am informed.
I oppose Islam because I believe in life liberty and the pursuit of happiness for both sexes.
I oppose Islam because I believe in animal rights.
I oppose Islam because children are people too.
I oppose Islam because I am not superior to my fellow human and unlike Islam do not believe in genocide.
So when I see Islam usurping laws societal values with the purpose of enslaving subjecting half the human life on this planet.
I will speak.
I will stand with those who speak out against such tyranny. In no way would I ever suggest that they turn the other cheek. What you suggest is toTurn a blind eye to slavery .
Turn a blind eye to equal Justice for both sexes.
Turn a blind eye to genocidal governments.
Turn a blind eye to oppression.
If we turn our cheeks as you suggest. We abandon all reasonable advancement in society. that allowed far greater equality than Islam ever has.
The abandon of society propagated proselytized and promoted to enslave masses unjustly, contrary to lawful societies established for 100s of years in the name of culture is a lie.
The truth is Islam is a theocratic one religion one government system of oppression.
Jesus called us to take up swords even to the point of having but the clothing on your back. Selling the change of clothes. Jesus got mad in the temple. Jesus represented God here on earth.
Your limited view of the God Deity Jesus depicted in the bible underscores your lack of knowledge on the subject. Which you further compound by being void of historical context. You fail to be even sophomoric in your (arguement ( chant)) turn the other cheek.
Finally if you will stand with those who would enslave my daughters. Prepare to kill or die because I will not submit or turn the other cheek.
America this turn the other cheek argument is nothing more than belligerent blather reject it. Be the Davidic warriors you were all called to be. Cast aside doubt, know your scriptures compare them to that of opposition stand firmly against Evil.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Gosh, the CIA interrogation techniques were fruitful enough to allow obama to personally shoot Osama bin Laden from a golf course.

pixie

i know you didn't add this to your list but i will....what has hurt the usa the most/?........obummer!!!!!!...he is the worst "thing" to ever happen in this country!!!!

CounterRevolutionary

No one here has read this 500 page report, so we have no evidence to base our opinions on the CiA's interrogation techniques' effectiveness or if they constitute torture. There is a Geneva Convention protocol that the civilized world supposedly follows which America has signed on to.

There is a bigger question behind this interrogation process under the Patriot Act that is missing from our discussion:
What happens if the ENEMY is in the Oval Office, a hard core Progressive hell bent on turning America into a socialist dictatorship who wants to wipe out all opposition?

How will these Progressives apply intimidation against American patriots who defend the Constitution, rule by law, free market principles, fiscal responsibility, and Constitutionally limited government? How will treasonist within the Bureaucracy misuse the Patriot Act against honest citizens - like Richard Nixon on steroids with a political hit-list?

Where are the checks and balances? What has happened to the 4th Amendment regarding government illegal search and seizure, where these dictators abandon habeas corpus and the right to confront our accusers and trial by jury of our peers?

Why are we addressing the possible use of torture while skipping the unconstitutional applications of the Patriot Act on all US citizens? Do you recall Senator Rand Paul filibustering the nomination for CIA Director Brenan, demanding an answer from President Obama, Attorney General Erik Holder, and nominee Brennan as to their condemning or advocating drone attacks upon unindicted, untried, suspect American citizens in the homeland? It took all day and all night to drag an answer out of these Progressives, hoodlums of the highest order.

sunnyvaleken Loc: Sunnyvale, Taxifornia

Benghazi showed us to be weak, indecisive and unwilling or unable to defend out own embassy staff and then showed the President advancing what everyone in the UN knew to be false: the video lie; it takes the cake. The "torture" report shows that we really don't torture people.

Real torture is what Mengele did in the Nazi concentration camps: things like drilling on a healthy tooth to expose the nerve and then see how much pain a person can endure. That's torture and on a scale of 1 to 10, is a 10.

Real torture is burning a finger or fingers and then poking at them to inflict more pain.

Real torture was demonstrated in a Bruce Willis movie: he was captured by the bad guys, strapped to a chair in a cold building with his bare feet placed on the cold wet floor. When he refused to answer questions a ball peen hammer was used to smash his cold wet toes one at a time. That's torture but it was in a movie.

John McCain endured real torture and has lasting injury from it.

Bottom line: Benghazi caused much greater harm to this country.

melbell Loc: California / Kentucky

You make timely observations .
We must head off passions and fears.
Stability and structure are paramount to civility and law.
Thank you for introducing a little long game thought on the subject.
Emphasis has been placed on the Geneva convention and treaty. How many alleged infractions to date by signets?

sunnyvaleken Loc: Sunnyvale, Taxifornia

I think you've asked some very good questions. I also think the next two years are going to be very dangerous.

For example, Is Obama trying to cause civil unrest (racial strife) in order to declare martial law and among other things, seize all firearms?