The point of Obamacare? It was an attempt to get those who paid nothing into the health insurance system (thus not contributing to the health care of others) to pay in at least a bit; aka- the mandate.

So why did they tell us it was the compassion for the 30 million uninsured?

It was an attempt to get health insurance to those who could not get it because of pre-existing conditons.

So why did they exclude everyone on Medicare? Bet you did not know that Medicare is excluded from pre-existing conditions. Who needs it worse than the old folks?

It was an attempt to get insurance companies to put more into actual healthcare of their insureds and less into their pockets.

How's that working out?

It basically was an attempt at health insurance reform. Not healthcare reform. It is proof positive that we need a single payer system. The health insurance companies need to go away. There are philosophical arguments against it but point in fact, the health insurance companies are not really competing. Obamacare was supposed to produce more competition between health insurance companies as well. It is failing.

I totally agree!!!! That it's failing.

In reality it is health care itself that needs to be reformed. Ours costs more and gives less than many, many countries. Dispite all its positives here in the US, we simply pay too much for it and our meds. We are being ripped off. Add to that the sheer number of people in the US who die from medical mistakes, then you can see how the health care industry has gotten out of control. By their own estimates which range for a high to a low number, at the lowest estimates, deaths related to medical mistakes are the sixth leading cause of death in the US.

You are correct on this issue!!!

Sure we have some geniuses in the field and doctors and nurses are amazing. But too many are not.

The entire system is convoluted and their weaknesses are linked, mostly to greed.

We're not all that far off, it you haven't noticed, and it's not fine. We're not fine. The nation isn't fine and the world isn't fine. The conceit of the young is the belief that what happened to previous generations couldn't possiblyhappen to them. They're too smart. Too civilized. Too sophisticated. So...every generation or two since the beginning of recorded history, the same tragic, bloody lessons have to be relearned. Fine indeed! A cavalier assertion considering the reality that:

We are trillions of dollars in debt, and the people who control currency and interest rates are the ones who put us into debt...encouraging American citizens to take on personal debt as well.

The world is even more in debt. QE in Japan, for instance, is something like 246% of the GDP. That's just one example. Like it or not, our economy is intertwined with the economies of dozens of other nations and if the first domino topples somewhere else, we're screwed too.

Kids are murdering each other in our schools and on the streets.

More people are on welfare than ever.

Our prisons are bulging with people...many who shouldn't be there.

The federal government is spying on everybody!

Federal agencies are arming themselves to the teeth...and not because they expect an invasion of terrorists.

Schools are graduating kids that are functionally illiterate.

Blue collar jobs that a person could support their family on are becoming a thing of the past.

Racial relations are worse than they were in the 60s and 70s.

We're being invaded by illegal immigrants.

The infrastructure is crumbling.

Nothing this president has done has improved any of the above, and nothing he does will because that is not his goal. Not that I blame him. If Americans were a bit less eager to abdicate personal sovereignty for reliance on the state, this would not be happening.

So in conclusion we have spent Billions of dollars insuring several million people, destroyed our health care system ( You can keep you Doctor and Insurance), increased the cost on everyone when you add in what is being paid by the Exchanges, put 20,000 pages of legislation into effect without reading it and to accomplish What? Name one thing it has accomplished that will be beneficial besides the government having total control over you and your life. I say beneficial since that was the intent from the beginning and that Sir " Was the Point"