Zyro0713

Opposition to gun ownership, may not understand the implications of a disarmed citizenry.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."
-- Adolph Hitler, Hitler's Secret Conversations 403 (Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens trans., 1961)

are you willing to remain a slave to the whims of those who have already shown you that they don't give a care about us?

Owning a gun, does not make you a dangerous person. People who have never had a gun in their hand have killed other people. So, should we ban most people from having hands?

Criminals are armed; they do not register with the authorities, until they are booked, after they have harmed someone who is not armed. The police do not live with each of us. You have to respond for your own safety and that of your family.

I own, I am trained, and I am hopeful that I will never have the reason to use; but if it is necessary, as Charles Bronson said in "Death Wish": "Good-bye!"

skott Loc: Bama

Who is trying to take your guns?

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I've asked the same thing...and the response is...oh, you know what I mean you liberal, progressive so and so...

I would be willing to bet that many states already have laws on the books that are in violation of the 4th Amendment.

In my state, you're supposed to register a weapon when move to the state: how do you enforce that. Who knew that? Also, if you're a registered "crazy" not should be sold a weapon-do those rules apply at a gun show, no idea.

But, you're right who's taking your guns...I still have mine...how 'bout you?

skott Loc: Bama

I have mine. I think gun control is sensible laws, not no laws. Show me a society that has guns everywhere and no one is safe.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

I think you need to go back and read your Constitution again. It is obvious that you don't have a clue what it says or where it says it. 4th amendment??????

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

My Constitution says this in the 4th amendment. I have no idea what yours says.

As for who is trying to take your guns away, just because you still have yours does not mean they are not trying to take them. Try looking at California or New York some time and see what they have for guns laws. All of which are UNCONSTITUTIONAL by the way.

I'll give you a hint, try reading the 2nd amendment some time and see what it says. You may also want to read the 1st amendment and then let me know if you have learned anything. Think they are not taking your rights away???? Where have you been lately??????

skott Loc: Bama

Perhaps you will try reading the entire Constitution. It mentions us using a Militia to defend our country and is against a standing army for more than 2 years. Later in Amendment two, it talks about the right to bear arms only after saying as, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Odd, that's all one sentence.
I don't remember exactly, but I believe Article I section 8 is the earlier part about Militias.

What right did you have that you no longer have has a result of a law passed by Obama. Bet you can't list a real one.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

It would seem that you don't know what you are talking about either. Want to see a society where guns are everywhere?? Try going to Montana some time or maybe a good many states out West that still allow guns to be carried everywhere.

Gun control is sensible gun laws???? You have no idea what you are talking about either. Give then an inch and they will take a mile. Who's idea of sensible are you going to go with???? What one person thinks is sensible is not to another.

It is NOT the armed citizen that you have to worry about, it is the armed thug. They don't ask your permission to own a gun and they sure don't care what the Constitution says about it. Write all the "sensible" gun laws you want and they will STILL have guns.

If you want to see just how effective your so called sensible gun laws are, take a hard look at what criminals that use guns in the commission of crimes are really charged with. It's the honest citizen that is thrown in jail for any little violation of guns laws, not the criminal.

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

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skott Loc: Bama

No, if you really want to go somewhere that everyone has guns, that's Mogadishu, Somalia. Montana has sensible gun laws, like being 18 and not a convicted felon. They do have those don't they? Laws I meant, not felons.

skott Loc: Bama

Here is a link for Montana's reasonable gun laws.

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/montana.aspx

What is reasonable in Montana, may not be the same as what is reasonable with the population density of L.A., New York, or Syracuse.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

There you go again, talking about something you know nothing about. If you TRULY want to learn what that second amendment means, try reading the Federalist Papers some time. The Militias are the PEOPLE, not some hair brained idea of National Guard some of you have come up with. The second amendment was put in there for one very simple reason and I'll bet you have no idea what that reason was.

Actually, you can throw out the second amendment and you STILL cannot pass guns laws. You can go quoting all the sections you want about anything in that Constitution and you will STILL not find one that gives this government any right or authority to pass gun laws.

As for one gun law Obama passed that affects me? How about his stopping the importation of some kinds guns. We cannot import guns made here in the good old U.S. because Obama doesn't want them. The M1 Grand is one of those guns he has banned. You people really need to wake up.

skott Loc: Bama

I know that you believe what you believe. Please quit telling me I can't read when you have to drop half of the second amendment to make it say what you want it to say.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

You go to a 100% lawless country and try using them as an example of no gun laws?????????? THEY HAVE NO LAWS!!!!!!!!!

Wanna try that one again?"?????

skott Loc: Bama

No that one was perfect. The idea is from the book "Blackhawk Down." The soldier that wrote it wanted to make the point that we do and should have sensible gun laws. You tried to use Montana as an example of no gun laws. They have some and they do not represent the majority of America in demographics, just like Somalia. If you get to use stupid examples, then so do I.
On a more serious note, I copied the part of the constitution that discusses militias for you. The Federalists papers are interesting reading, but not what was voted on. Not all founding fathers agreed, so I'll go with what they did agree on.
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Congress has the power to:
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Later in this same document, they again talk about the militia in the second amendment. It's called reading in context. I read pretty damn well, huh?

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