Jack Sequim WA,
Jack I really think you have misinterpreted Rumitoids message, try reading the first sentence in the second paragraph, I felt that his message was that with all the fanfare our war heroes get we can not forget the husbands and fathers who fight every day to feed and cloth his family. to a hungry child and mother he is a definite hero and I must agree. The high steel workers, the miners, cops and emergency medical workers as well as fire fighters and countless others put their life in danger daily to support someone. They do jobs that many of us wouldn't even consider. Jack I hope you understand and Rhumitoid I hope I read you right.

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I hear what you say, and to a degree I concur. However, there are lots of descriptors for men - heroism not belonging to too many. A hero is one who puts his life on the line with no necessary good outcome for HIM. He may die being a hero. So might a high rise steel worker die while doing his job, and while we appreciate there are people who can do such work, it doesn't rise to the hero level. A father who looks after his family is a good men to be respected, but he is no hero for that alone. If I were a man, I honestly believe I'd rather be labeled "respected" than heroic. Heroes are heroes to those he saves as a result of his actions.......sometimes firemen and policemen are heroes......sometimes ordinary people with safe jobs rise to the level of heroes. A hero can actually be a sob
in real life, but still be considered a hero for putting his life on the line in order to protect ours. Our flag is waved for military heroes because they acted for the good of the nation which our flag identifies. And a simply respected man may do heroic things and be called a hero, but unless his heroism was in the military, waving the stars and stripes is not particularly proper because the flag represents the nation,not individuals.

Jack Sequim WA,
Jack I really think you have misinterpreted Rumitoids message, try reading the first sentence in the second paragraph, I felt that his message was that with all the fanfare our war heroes get we can not forget the husbands and fathers who fight every day to feed and cloth his family. to a hungry child and mother he is a definite hero and I must agree. The high steel workers, the miners, cops and emergency medical workers as well as fire fighters and countless others put their life in danger daily to support someone. They do jobs that many of us wouldn't even consider. Jack I hope you understand and Rhumitoid I hope I read you right.

I concur with "DD" wherein he advised you of disrespect Rumitiod intended to heap on our warriors. As a individual that served and a grandfather that has a grandson leaving this coming Tuesday I find this thread by Rumy as disgusting as any I have read. However, having been on OPP for some time and perhaps understanding him better than some will say that he accomplished his intent by drawing attention to himself. He is a deeply troubled individual deserving only of our pity. Do not allow him to upset or anger you for that is his intent also. Really despicable individual that deserves to be ignored.

P.S. And to think I once said that albeit that he was misguided by his views he had a good heart. I now sadly withdraw that statement about having a good heart, admit I was wrong and declare him a enemy of the Republic. Oh wait, being a enemy of the Republic would just put him in with the rest of the Obama supporters. :hunf:

Jack Sequim WA,
Jack I really think you have misinterpreted Rumitoids message, try reading the first sentence in the second paragraph, I felt that his message was that with all the fanfare our war heroes get we can not forget the husbands and fathers who fight every day to feed and cloth his family. to a hungry child and mother he is a definite hero and I must agree. The high steel workers, the miners, cops and emergency medical workers as well as fire fighters and countless others put their life in danger daily to support someone. They do jobs that many of us wouldn't even consider. Jack I hope you understand and Rhumitoid I hope I read you right.

Reality is more bizarre than fiction, and once again you prove true to bizarre!!!!
Any man that volunteers to shed his blood and/or life, defending his brothers and sisters of our great nation. Defending against evil, that would harm or kill, threaten freedoms.
That man is my brother in our great nation, and God bless him a hero for his courage to volunteer in harms way, to give his life for mine.

How dare you make good evil!!!!!!!!! When I wave my flag upon his victory, it is not for the blood he spilled, but for his willingness to spill his.
The most sacred we hold to, is our Almighty God and life God had given us, until we go to be with our Lord, and my brother willing to give away such sacred thing as his breath in this life!!!

Your perspective is offensive and appalling, to me and many others that wave our flags, with regard to our nations heroes!!!

In all fairness, he said that those who serve are not to be attacked. I disagree with part of his last statement. There are times when flag waving over a fallen enemy is VERY appropriate. I smile everytime I read about or hear about a terrorist who one of our guys "convinced" to lay down and quit breathing. War, or rather having to fight, is no cause for celebration. Fighting and winning after we have been attacked is definitely a cause to wave a flag. Almost every time a terrorist dies and an American doesn't, it is a cause for happiness. I say almost because there are some Liberals whose loyalty is a big question mark in my mind.
What is needed is a new type of terrorist; one who only kills people who defend terrorism.

There are two steps to effectively fighting terrorism. First, kill terrorists. Secondly, make the ones you missed too afraid to attack you further. Fear has to overcome fanaticism. Most terrorist assholes consider themselves brave and honorable warriors for their willingness to kill innoncent and mostly unarmed civilians. They need to be disabused of this notion.
Remember Sun Tzu: "Supreme excellence in warfare consists of destroying the enemy's will to fight."

There are no good wars; but there are bad wars with good endings. These, we celebrate.

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Loki I agree with you. Now, does anyone know why we wave the Flag? Let me explain why the Liberals are jerks for not caring about the Constitution and their oath taken to serve our country.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YaxGNQE5ZLA

God Bless our troops for volunteering to keep our Country safe. God Bless the Fathers and Mothers who have raised their children to love our country. If Liberals and Conservatives can agree on only on thing......it would be our Flag, symbol of our Great Nation.

The "celebration" of the death of a human being, must be considered from evry angle. While I would agree with most of what you say, there are times when humanity could appropriately "celebrate" the death of a fellow human being. This brings to mind several names to which I shall give revelation on for "some": Saddam Hussein, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffery Dahmer, John Norman Collins, Hitler, Pol pot, Mussolini, idi Ameen, Timothy McVeigh, & "so on"! The celebrant, must be invested in vengeance, through direct loss, or passion of belief! Serial killers, are considered vile, & despotic individuals, that deserve killing, however that is done. These people earned the right to death, because they have no place, in our society! Those that don't respect human life, laws, et al.........must be removed, & mostly, the ones described above, really are a threat to any living people in our society........There are really instances that capital punishment, "fits the occasion", regardless of what the die hard Libtards, say, or the "Pope" says! Difference between Liberal's, * COnservatives, is; Conservatives, are "realistic", & pragmatic about heinous killers, & believe they need to die, for the sake of a safe society. Liberals, although most don't believe that way, would spare the life of such criminals, but have no problem sucking the brains out of a not yet born baby, still in the birthing canal, & "murder" the innocent child!.......Yes, America, there are several differences between Liberal, & Conservative! This one, I just can't "wrap my head around"! I choose to be Conservative!.................... :shock: