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Nov 7, 2014 16:02:16   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
DennisDee wrote:
Obama campaigning for Anthony Brown in SOLID BLUE MARYLAND. His appeal didn't work and Brown went down in defeat. Obama has no MANDATE. He was unable to even get people to SHOW up to vote.


The dipsticks are being shown for what they are. The Democraps here have not the clue that many of their fellow Democraps did indeed vote...but not for a Democrap this time, they voted Republican. THAT is the truth.

Obama's got something bigger than anyone's and we call it a stack of BULLSHIT. The Nation never knew shit could get stacked that high until now...and the entire Nation basically told Obama and the Democraptic party to "go to hell".

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Nov 7, 2014 18:39:14   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
johnson90 wrote:
The president is delusional. People who choose not to vote, choose not to have their voice heard, Obama! So that little voice you are hearing in your sick head is your own sick ideology. Get over it! whatever you are thinking, its not gonna happen!



You're right that many people don't vote because they're ignorant or just don't care. But also because there is no one in the 2-party duopoly worth voting for.

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Nov 7, 2014 18:51:11   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
KHH1 wrote:
"To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, I hear you,...
President Obama did something extraordinary, perhaps unprecedented, in his post-election news conference Wednesday: He claimed a mandate on behalf of voters who didn't vote...


Hmmm, interesting. So, according to Obama, we should a) assume that everybody who doesn't vote in an election really meant to vote for the opposite of what the majority who did vote wanted, and b) we must listen to these non-voters.

So, using that logic, we must assume the majority of non-voters in 2012 wanted Romney to win so Obama should resign immediately.

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Nov 7, 2014 18:58:37   #
Blacksheep
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
Hmmm, interesting. So, according to Obama, we should a) assume that everybody who doesn't vote in an election really meant to vote for the opposite of what the majority who did vote wanted, and b) we must listen to these non-voters.

So, using that logic, we must assume the majority of non-voters in 2012 wanted Romney to win so Obama should resign immediately.


Obama lied, anyway, or else he got his numbers wrong. Let's see, how many states did he say there are? 53?
Actually, about 2/3rds of the registered voters did vote and that's a pretty good turnout. There are less registered voters than there are people eligible to vote, but the latter don't count unless they register.

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Nov 8, 2014 10:42:32   #
Fred Parsons
 
He must be hearing voices. Better watch out as many killers will use the same excuse, GOD MADE ME DO IT

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Nov 8, 2014 10:51:24   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Super Dave wrote:
I know you're butt-hurt... I get it. I've been there. But you aren't doing anything but make yourself look like a groupie.

If Obama wanted to do something he would have told Reid to vote on the bipartisan (some unanimous) bills that the House had sent to him.

He didn't, because he didn't want to get anything done. He wanted to play golf and admire himself in the mirror.


Super Dave: He is more than butt-hurt...He has violated his own hemorrhoids as well! khh1 spouts only poppycock!

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Nov 8, 2014 10:52:33   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
KHH1 wrote:
"To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, I hear you,...
President Obama did something extraordinary, perhaps unprecedented, in his post-election news conference Wednesday: He claimed a mandate on behalf of voters who didn't vote.

"To everyone who voted, I want you to know that I hear you," the president said. "To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, I hear you, too."

What did that mean? What did those non-voters say?

It would probably be more useful to ask what the president heard. And apparently Obama heard expressions of support from non-voters across the land.

The president explained that many more voters turned out when he was elected, and then re-elected, than in Tuesday's midterms that left Republicans firmly in control of House and Senate. "One of the things that I'm very proud of in 2008 and 2012, when I ran for office, was we got people involved who hadn't been involved before," Obama said. "Part of what I also think we've got to look at is that two-thirds of people who were eligible to vote just didn't vote."
." They hate the other party.

Of course, more than one-third of the people who were eligible to vote in Obama's two presidential elections didn't vote then, either. But Obama's message to Republicans was unmistakable: My mandate is bigger than your mandate.

Certainly presidential-year turnout is larger than midterm turnout; that's the way the system works. But Obama's reaction was born out of failure.

Everyone knew, going into Tuesday's voting, that Democrats were desperate to re-assemble the vaunted Obama coalition of 2008 and 2012. If that combination of minorities, women and young people came to the midterm polls in the same numbers they did in presidential years, Obama's party would do very well.

But that didn't happen — a result the president does not seem prepared to fully acknowledge. Facing the reality of a huge Republican victory, Obama spoke at his post-defeat news conference as if the voters who supported him in '08 and '12 had made a sort of virtual trip to the polls in 2014, delivering a silent but more powerful message than the one sent by Americans who actually turned out.

Perhaps Obama felt as if he had to read the results that way. After all, a more reality-based look at what happened would have been a humbling experience for a man who in the past has known great success with voters.

Remember that a month before the midterms, Obama declared that his policies "are on the ballot, every single one of them." Then Americans actually cast those ballots, and Obama's party lost decisively. A reasonable interpretation would be that voters broadly rejected the president's policies. So Obama looked for another way to read the results.

Mentally, the president appears stuck in 2012, a year when he won re-election and had a chance to enact a second-term agenda. Back then, he hoped for victories on gun control, immigration and the environment. But he got very little done. Now, having lost big in his second midterms, Obama is trying to remind everyone that he used to be a winner.

The problem is presidential terms last four years, but presidential mandates don't. George W. Bush won re-election in 2004 and used his victory to try to enact Social Security reform. He failed and two years later paid for the unpopularity of his policies — most notably, the Iraq war — with a huge defeat in the 2006 midterms.

By the time Bush lost Congress, his mandate was gone, and he was reduced to exercising the core constitutional powers of the presidency. Bush would have been laughed out of the room if, in his famous "thumping" post-election news conference of Nov. 8, 2006, he had pointed to his victories in 2000 and 2004 as evidence of some sort of virtual mandate bequeathed by voters who hadn't actually shown up at the midterm polls.

Instead, Bush's acceptance of defeat was model of reality-based politics. "I'm obviously disappointed with the outcome of the election, and as the head of the Republican Party, I share a large part of the responsibility," Bush said. "Look, this was a close election. If you look at race by race, it was close. The cumulative effect, however, was not too close. It was a thumping."

Obama didn't come anywhere near that sort of acknowledgment. If he doesn't eventually accept what happened Tuesday, the nation could be in for two years of a president living in the past, pointing to a mandate that is long past its sell-by date.
"To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to... (show quote)


khh1: Your are just as crazy as the usurper!

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Nov 8, 2014 11:26:53   #
jvance Loc: Granbury Texas
 
KHH1 wrote:
**His mandate is bigger that that of the GOP..he wants to get thngs done...they want to stop him from doing so but not accomplish shit themselves**


LOL, Like other things it is not how big it is, it's how you use it.

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Nov 8, 2014 11:52:51   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
KHH1 wrote:
**man please....hurt for what? A GOP administration will hurt YOU way more than it will hurt ME, don't get it twisted.....but President Obama has put up with bullshit long enough....trying to be diplomatic with a bunch of f-king racist fools...he knows what he needs to do and is smart enough to accomplish it with or without their cooperation....because he knows he is dealing with a bunch of ignorant racist azz fools**



Obama is a communist prick who happens to be (part) black. He could be the Pillsbury Doughboy and he would be as failed...not because he would be white; because he's a very flawed human being.

The man was (part) black when we elected him...twice. So all those same bigots just discovered the man is not Lilly white? Their TV's were out of tune maybe?

The racist is you. The racists are the Democrat party who have enslaved the black man with dependance. The racist is the guy in the White House who has worsened the lot of 'his' people since taking power while transferring wealth away from them to the already wealthy...

Race is the problem alright...just not as you and other Progressive Democrats see it...

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Nov 8, 2014 15:18:01   #
jvance Loc: Granbury Texas
 
I could argue with you all day but I hate to argue with someone who is mentally disarmed.

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Nov 8, 2014 15:23:12   #
Blacksheep
 
jvance wrote:
I could argue with you all day but I hate to argue with someone who is mentally disarmed.


Would that be the same as unholstered?

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Nov 8, 2014 15:26:19   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
CDM wrote:
Obama is a communist prick who happens to be (part) black. He could be the Pillsbury Doughboy and he would be as failed...not because he would be white; because he's a very flawed human being.

The man was (part) black when we elected him...twice. So all those same bigots just discovered the man is not Lilly white? Their TV's were out of tune maybe?

The racist is you. The racists are the Democrat party who have enslaved the black man with dependance. The racist is the guy in the White House who has worsened the lot of 'his' people since taking power while transferring wealth away from them to the already wealthy...

Race is the problem alright...just not as you and other Progressive Democrats see it...
Obama is a communist prick who happens to be (part... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Nov 8, 2014 15:41:35   #
CarolSeer2016
 
KHH1 wrote:
"To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, I hear you,...
President Obama did something extraordinary, perhaps unprecedented, in his post-election news conference Wednesday: He claimed a mandate on behalf of voters who didn't vote.

"To everyone who voted, I want you to know that I hear you," the president said. "To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, I hear you, too."

What did that mean? What did those non-voters say?

It would probably be more useful to ask what the president heard. And apparently Obama heard expressions of support from non-voters across the land.

The president explained that many more voters turned out when he was elected, and then re-elected, than in Tuesday's midterms that left Republicans firmly in control of House and Senate. "One of the things that I'm very proud of in 2008 and 2012, when I ran for office, was we got people involved who hadn't been involved before," Obama said. "Part of what I also think we've got to look at is that two-thirds of people who were eligible to vote just didn't vote."
." They hate the other party.

Of course, more than one-third of the people who were eligible to vote in Obama's two presidential elections didn't vote then, either. But Obama's message to Republicans was unmistakable: My mandate is bigger than your mandate.

Certainly presidential-year turnout is larger than midterm turnout; that's the way the system works. But Obama's reaction was born out of failure.

Everyone knew, going into Tuesday's voting, that Democrats were desperate to re-assemble the vaunted Obama coalition of 2008 and 2012. If that combination of minorities, women and young people came to the midterm polls in the same numbers they did in presidential years, Obama's party would do very well.

But that didn't happen — a result the president does not seem prepared to fully acknowledge. Facing the reality of a huge Republican victory, Obama spoke at his post-defeat news conference as if the voters who supported him in '08 and '12 had made a sort of virtual trip to the polls in 2014, delivering a silent but more powerful message than the one sent by Americans who actually turned out.

Perhaps Obama felt as if he had to read the results that way. After all, a more reality-based look at what happened would have been a humbling experience for a man who in the past has known great success with voters.

Remember that a month before the midterms, Obama declared that his policies "are on the ballot, every single one of them." Then Americans actually cast those ballots, and Obama's party lost decisively. A reasonable interpretation would be that voters broadly rejected the president's policies. So Obama looked for another way to read the results.

Mentally, the president appears stuck in 2012, a year when he won re-election and had a chance to enact a second-term agenda. Back then, he hoped for victories on gun control, immigration and the environment. But he got very little done. Now, having lost big in his second midterms, Obama is trying to remind everyone that he used to be a winner.

The problem is presidential terms last four years, but presidential mandates don't. George W. Bush won re-election in 2004 and used his victory to try to enact Social Security reform. He failed and two years later paid for the unpopularity of his policies — most notably, the Iraq war — with a huge defeat in the 2006 midterms.

By the time Bush lost Congress, his mandate was gone, and he was reduced to exercising the core constitutional powers of the presidency. Bush would have been laughed out of the room if, in his famous "thumping" post-election news conference of Nov. 8, 2006, he had pointed to his victories in 2000 and 2004 as evidence of some sort of virtual mandate bequeathed by voters who hadn't actually shown up at the midterm polls.

Instead, Bush's acceptance of defeat was model of reality-based politics. "I'm obviously disappointed with the outcome of the election, and as the head of the Republican Party, I share a large part of the responsibility," Bush said. "Look, this was a close election. If you look at race by race, it was close. The cumulative effect, however, was not too close. It was a thumping."

Obama didn't come anywhere near that sort of acknowledgment. If he doesn't eventually accept what happened Tuesday, the nation could be in for two years of a president living in the past, pointing to a mandate that is long past its sell-by date.
"To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to... (show quote)



If that's what he heard, K, he's only hearing voices in his head.

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Nov 8, 2014 17:02:17   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
If that's what he heard, K, he's only hearing voices in his head.


Yep: The other head!!!

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Nov 8, 2014 17:24:19   #
Blacksheep
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
If that's what he heard, K, he's only hearing voices in his head.


KHH1 wrote:
"To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, I hear you,...
President Obama did something extraordinary, perhaps unprecedented, in his post-election news conference Wednesday: He claimed a mandate on behalf of voters who didn't vote.

"To everyone who voted, I want you to know that I hear you," the president said. "To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to participate in the process yesterday, I hear you, too."


HUSSEIN Obama did something else as well, there. He twisted the facts out of recognition as usual.

There are about 150 million REGISTERED voters. The fact that about 207 million of us are ELIGIBLE to vote is not in play here. Not everyone registers to vote and a great many of us never vote in our lifetimes.

So of that 150 million who registered to vote, 89 million voted, which is about 59%. A third is 33%. So actually, close to two-thirds of all who could vote, did vote. Those who are not registered, can't vote.

In other words, Obama was blowing it out his ass as usual.

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