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Nov 5, 2014 10:23:59   #
Sicilianthing
 
Silentstorm wrote:
I just have one thing to say ask yourself If I died right this minute would I be ready to ascend to the next life that God has so graciously provided for each of us through his death burial and resurrection. You are in control of nothing he decides it all you are being tested in your puny short lives of 100 yrs or less to see if your worthy of second chance in a brand new world. Wake up people that next heartbeat may not come then you blew it. This world is just a testing ground for what is to come everything in it is temporary. You can agree or disagree I don't give two hoots that is your individual choice that's the way the creator set it up freedom of choice. I chose life
I just have one thing to say ask yourself If I die... (show quote)


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Nov 5, 2014 10:28:32   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Conservatives always say they want to get government off our backs. Doesn't that extend into the bedroom? What two consenting adults do behind the bedroom door is nobody's business but their own! It certainly doesn't concern the government!!


the preachers don't go into your bedroom so stop trying to take your sodomy into our churches

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Nov 5, 2014 10:44:23   #
Sicilianthing
 
alex wrote:
the preachers don't go into your bedroom so stop trying to take your sodomy into our churches


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ohhh that one takes the whole cake Alex !

LMFAO !

Awesome... just totally awesome...

Wow...

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Nov 5, 2014 10:53:30   #
Silentstorm
 
Right on I agree with No propaganda Please those who have no morals have hijacked the media the government and the church with one common goal destroy America from within and they are doing it to little by little. I agree they have freedom of speech but that does not mean we have to listen and legally authorize what they demand. Whats next have relations with whoever or whatever you want when ever you want rape is no longer illegal. No marriage just everybody having one big nation wide orgy. they took the bible and creation and morals out of the school system now little johnny shoots bullets instead of paper wads.

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Nov 5, 2014 11:00:07   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
M wrote:
There at least as many good secular reasons to oppose gay marriage as there are religious or traditionally moral ones.

First, the family unit is the basic building block of human society. Virtually all roles are complimentary and everyone naturally plays theirs within the nuclear & extended families in their clan and tribe structures with very little training needed.

Second, this socialization is so obviously strongly instinctive and mutually beneficial that when Native Americans were discovered in they were organized that way, as were the Inuit, the Polynesians and the lost tribes of Africa. These societies although technically deficient and without written law and are economically without waste so they are able to manage property rights, inheritance, domestic and foreign policy, defense, education and social welfare without outside support. For a better understanding brush up on the tragedy of the green.

Third, the economic input required to alter this instinctive societal organization or replace the traditional family is a luxury so expensive, without any hope for financial ROI, that it is economically absurd to society. For a better understanding of this brush up on the paradox of savings.

Fourth, by definition, productive society needs steady positive population growth to survive. The nuclear family is the most efficient, not the only, way to get that growth.

Fifth, it also has the advantage of producing measurably better outcomes in terms of lifetime net economic output the government can then tax and redistribute.

Sixth, society has the obligation, to invest it's scarce resources responsibly and protect the investments that generate the best returns for the benefit of all. There is a general principal of a risk reward ratio when evaluating investments. Investing in the traditional family structure is unique in that it has both the greatest return and least risk of any alternative. Investing otherwise is negligence.
There at least as many good secular reasons to opp... (show quote)


Good post THANKS

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Nov 5, 2014 11:03:22   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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ohhh that one takes the whole cake Alex !

LMFAO !

Awesome... just totally awesome...

Wow...


terrific come back

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Nov 5, 2014 11:04:03   #
Sicilianthing
 
Silentstorm wrote:
Were all idiots morons and nincanpoops look around you the freaking animal kingdom is smarter than most of the human population. I mean come on people same sex relations is just plain idiotic even the baboons realize that. The only reason the Supreme Court gives the people the laws they want is so they won't lose their limousines million dollar homes fancy clothes cosmetic surgery caviar their riches simply put. They could care less about morality as long as they are at the top. They are trading a temporary life of greed and power instead of an eternity in paradise sold their souls for short term gain. How freaking stupid is that what is 100 years compared to timeless existence. Glory to God he gave us a way out but we are to wrapped up in petty issues that if we had any common sense would not exist in the first place. This melting pot is about to boil over because we have reached such a point where our sick minds constantly come up with immoral acts that we can legislate into law. Time is short think long and hard about what is worthwhile and what isn't there is an enemy pulling your strings and you don't know about it or you just simply don't care. We are all brothers and sisters in the eyes of our creator the Lord God and one day everyone of us will call him Lord either as our protector or as our accuser you can not and will not escape it.
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SCOTUS will pay the greatest price when the bell rings !

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Nov 5, 2014 11:06:04   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Silentstorm wrote:
Right on I agree with No propaganda Please those who have no morals have hijacked the media the government and the church with one common goal destroy America from within and they are doing it to little by little. I agree they have freedom of speech but that does not mean we have to listen and legally authorize what they demand. Whats next have relations with whoever or whatever you want when ever you want rape is no longer illegal. No marriage just everybody having one big nation wide orgy. they took the bible and creation and morals out of the school system now little johnny shoots bullets instead of paper wads.
Right on I agree with No propaganda Please those w... (show quote)


the communist approach poke here until you feel resistance then back off and poke over there which means they won't quit until they destroy our country

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Nov 5, 2014 11:10:22   #
Grugore
 
amvaap wrote:
No one opposed to "gay" marriage is arguing against "gay" rights to free speech. Our argument is about destroying an institution that is the bedrock of society by demanding that it be redefined and that the redefinition be made law and that law be rammed down everyone's throat. You are aware that incidents such as cake bakers who refuse "gay" wedding cake orders are being fined. Pastors are being required to present their sermons to government prior to giving the sermon to make sure there's no anti "gay" content..How about the Pastors right to free speech ?? How about the cake bakers right to do business with whom he chooses.??
No one opposed to "gay" marriage is argu... (show quote)


Those bakers have lost their business and are now broke. And it's not because they refused to bake the cake because those evil women were gay. They had actually done business with them on several occasions. They simply objected to the cake on religious grounds. If we are not free to follow our conscience, whether a private citizen or a corporation, we are not free.

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Nov 5, 2014 11:12:27   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Grugore wrote:
Those bakers have lost their business and are now broke. And it's not because they refused to bake the cake because those evil women were gay. They had actually done business with them on several occasions. They simply objected to the cake on religious grounds. If we are not free to follow our conscience, whether a private citizen or a corporation, we are not free.


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Nov 5, 2014 11:15:02   #
Sicilianthing
 
no propaganda please wrote:
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I just can't wait for the bell to ring...
God I pray for that every hour !

Someone please sound the Alarm !

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Nov 5, 2014 11:32:03   #
Silentstorm
 
Sicilianthing I am just trying to get people to look at the big picture nobody seems to care from that aspect. They are all wrapped up in their own agenda. I don't know it all stinks of corruption the executive legislative and judicial systems state and federal levels is there any hope for us do we even deserve it. Look at America through God's eyes he pretty much sees the same thing he did before he decided to wipe it all out with the flood and we are close to that very same response again. Clean up the three levels of government and the rest will take care of itself. The tongue is mightier than the sword

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Nov 5, 2014 11:43:11   #
Sicilianthing
 
Silentstorm wrote:
Sicilianthing I am just trying to get people to look at the big picture nobody seems to care from that aspect. They are all wrapped up in their own agenda. I don't know it all stinks of corruption the executive legislative and judicial systems state and federal levels is there any hope for us do we even deserve it. Look at America through God's eyes he pretty much sees the same thing he did before he decided to wipe it all out with the flood and we are close to that very same response again. Clean up the three levels of government and the rest will take care of itself. The tongue is mightier than the sword
Sicilianthing I am just trying to get people to lo... (show quote)


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I understand but to do it, will require the complete removal and suspension of all activities until smarter minds can seat and evaluate the damage.

That peaceful voting process you just witnessed will not fix things...

The attack on our Godly, Christian and Moral foundations continues as we speak...

Until people get that we are doomed.

That's why I split from the heard long ago.

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Nov 5, 2014 12:28:17   #
M
 
amvaap wrote:
No one opposed to "gay" marriage is arguing against "gay" rights to free speech. Our argument is about destroying an institution that is the bedrock of society by demanding that it be redefined and that the redefinition be made law and that law be rammed down everyone's throat. You are aware that incidents such as cake bakers who refuse "gay" wedding cake orders are being fined. Pastors are being required to present their sermons to government prior to giving the sermon to make sure there's no anti "gay" content..How about the Pastors right to free speech ?? How about the cake bakers right to do business with whom he chooses.??
No one opposed to "gay" marriage is argu... (show quote)


There at least as many good secular reasons to oppose gay marriage as there are religious or traditionally moral ones.

First, the family unit is the basic building block of human society. Virtually all roles are complimentary and everyone naturally plays theirs within the nuclear & extended families in their clan and tribe structures with very little training needed.

Second, this socialization is so obviously strongly instinctive and mutually beneficial that when Native Americans were discovered in they were organized that way, as were the Inuit, the Polynesians and the lost tribes of Africa. These societies although technically deficient and without written law and are economically without waste so they are able to manage property rights, inheritance, domestic and foreign policy, defense, education and social welfare without outside support. For a better understanding brush up on the tragedy of the green.

Third, the economic input required to alter this instinctive societal organization or replace the traditional family is a luxury so expensive, without any hope for financial ROI, that it is economically absurd to society. For a better understanding of this brush up on the paradox of savings.

Fourth, by definition, productive society needs steady positive population growth to survive. The nuclear family is the most efficient, not the only, way to get that growth.

Fifth, it also has the advantage of producing measurably better outcomes in terms of lifetime net economic output the government can then tax and redistribute.

Sixth, society has the obligation, to invest it's scarce resources responsibly and protect the investments that generate the best returns for the benefit of all. There is a general principal of a risk reward ratio when evaluating investments. Investing in the traditional family structure is unique in that it has both the greatest return and least risk of any alternative. Investing otherwise is negligence.

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Nov 5, 2014 13:33:44   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You sayin Im gay, not that theres anything wrong with it.


Somehow, I just knew you'd think that!

:XD: :XD: :XD:

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