bahmer

The DNA of the baby is different than the mothers DNA and thus the baby is not part of the mothers body but a separate and different body of its own. While the mother is the host for the baby it is not part of the mothers body. I would like to think with all of the preventive medicine for not conceiving children abortion would be an obsolete procedure. There are condoms, prescription birth control pills, intrauterine devices for the female, having ones tubes tied, and vasectomies for the men. Why then with all of the preventive ways available to humans are we still aborting our babies is beyond me.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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1. Wimpy and/or decadent congressmen
2. Wimpy and/or decadent judges
3. Leftist obsession with control and decadence
4. Population control
5. The very, VERY rare occasions for rape and incest caused pregnancies

Those are the only REAL reasons on the face of the earth for the "need" for abortions.

Babsan

You said it,that's the DEMONrats

PeterS

That's correct--hang on to that thought. And why is it you say you can "answer that question" and then as I read through you don't answer my question? Why is it conservatives have such trouble with a simple yes or no answer. Maybe you didn't understand the question: does my right to life supersede your right to control your body? Yes or no. Pretty simple.



So a childbirth is a punishment for being promiscuous? Good to know. What about being raped or incest. Is childbirth a punishment for that too?



Actually it does belong to the mother, she is the creator, and if she chooses to terminate the pregnancy than that is her choice--also her right. It's her body and not even promiscuity means she relinquishes her right to control her body. And this brings us full circle to my question--even though others my depend on our bodies for their lives, does this mean we give up the right to control our bodies? I think we both know the answer is no.

The right to control our bodies lies at the heart of being free. In fact, freedom cannot exist without the right to control our bodies which begs the question: why are conservatives so determined to hand it over to government? Do you not understand that when giving government the right to determine what we do with our bodies you open a Pandora's box in which our rights can disappear? I know thinking isn't the strong suit of conservatives but cap lock doesn't mean anything to government. Do you think my question simply a hypothetical? Well like you said, progressives are evil and if you take away a women's right to control their bodies believe me, they will make the connection to take away everyone's right to control their bodies.

And not to change subject but maybe you can explain your (conservative) love for the unborn and your total indifference, and at times open hostility, to children thereafter? Single women, and especially teenage women, have a hard enough time supporting a child then you oppose offering welfare, food stamps, a living wage, health care, day care, work training, paying for higher education and on and on. If you are so enamored with an embryo why are you so determined to make sure that it has the lowest quality of life possible once it is born? Since you favor having the State force women to have children they don't want shouldn't the State then be responsible for the child's quality of life thereafter?

And an even greater question: can you answer any of this without the use of cap lock?

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

You'll have to make it without me, Pete. I won't waste time on idiots any more than necessary to maintain some sanity on this thread. The mother created the baby? The mother doesn't know how to create a loaf of bread, let alone a baby. You are a plantation resident too, I see. Totally brainwashed.

It seems you think you are God. You aren't! NEither are you compassionate, nor do you care one whit about anyone but yourself, and it SHOWS. You merely make noise and try to distract from intelligent conversation - and you are terrified that once again morality may be on the rise, and that is a horrible thing to you. If the world had NO PEOPLE LIKE YOU, there would be no need for insane asylums, prisons, rehab clinics, illegal drug use and suicides. Only lost and terminally lost people fall into those places because they don't know how to cope in the real world, and they'd prefer to die than to learn how to cope. You are one of them, and a detriment to decent society.

PeterS

And yet she seemed to do it quite well didn't she. Quite a trick for someone who couldn't create a loaf of bread!


Really? I'm not the one here who is ducking all the questions! What I've found is that when people can't answer a direct question it's because doing so would expose just how flimsy their position is. You started out by proclaiming "I can answer that!" and then you did everything in your power not to. You are a liar and a hypocrite and it SHOWS!


God you are such a petty little twerp. Name a single "INTELLEGENT" (see, you aren't the only one who can use cap lock!) question you've asked? Caps lock doesn't display intelligent. The question at hand is the is whether we have a right to control our own bodies. It's a simple question and it goes to the heart of whether we are a free society or whether we are going to cede every part of our lives to government simply so we can fain a very false sense of morality...


Why would morality be a horrible thing to me? You are just sitting there throwing out as much bull shit as you can just hoping something will stick. To sit there and plead for the life of the unborn and then take a big steaming dump on them once they squirt out the tube makes you an immoral not moral person! When hypocrisy becomes our morality we can then rest assured that immorality is our KING!


People like me? Don't you mean people like YOU! Again, I haven't ducked a single question and there isn't a single question that you haven't ducked! Do you honestly think that if you CAN'T answer the simplest of questions it negates our need for asylums, prisons, rehab clinics, illegal drug use and suicides? Hiding from the truth is why the preceding exists not why it doesn't need to. Doesn't any thought go into a single word before it exits your mouth?


How does being liars and a hypocrites lead us to being a moral society? Prior to RvWade a "good" girl went away for a "procedure" while whores and trollops died in back alleys with a cloths hangers stuffed up their cunts. Was that moral? The pretence of morality is not morality. To force a girl to have a baby she doesn't want and then turn your back on them once the child is born is not morality. And above all, to cede our rights to control our bodies to government purely so we can pretend to be moral is the most immoral thing we can do!

T. When you find some morality then you can lecture me on it. Until then, I suggest you look in the mirror and come to grips with the hypocrite you are...

Retired669

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imbobbyc Loc: Montana

I believe that you have to spend some time in the womb in order to be birthed.

Babsan

A lot of SICK and perverted DEMONrats here

Babsan

A lot of SICK and perverted DEMONrats here

imbobbyc Loc: Montana

Is your mother still responsible for your quality of life?

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

If he had a mother, she'd have him in an institution where he belongs.

imbobbyc Loc: Montana

You got that right.

PeterS

So remove the baby, implant it up your ass, and the problem is solved--right!

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

You're really sick.