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Nov 1, 2014 12:01:35   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Yes very much so when you put more expendable income in the hands of lower wage earners it boost the the economy. But if you take a billionaire and you put a few more million in his pocket does he spend more


I agree. When you put a few more million in the pocket of a billionaire, he either uses it to buy a politician or he hides it in an off shore account so as not to pay his taxes. We are ruled by the elite. Why middle class citizens vote for these idiots either Democrat or Republican is a mystery to me.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:08:35   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Case in point Individual works for a fast food chain, Pay them more, you go buy food there Cost you more. Go to grocery store do you know why you pay high prices. Unions pushed for higher wages. I bet you cry every time you buy food. Plus less service management cuts work force. Want better wages get education get better job is as simple as that. No one is against higher wages but minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage just starting point. And you think billionaires don.t spend much money. How ignorant can you be.
tdsrnest wrote:
Yes very much so when you put more expendable income in the hands of lower wage earners it boost the the economy. But if you take a billionaire and you put a few more million in his pocket does he spend more

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Nov 1, 2014 12:13:03   #
Kirk
 
tdsrnest wrote:
So stop them from voting. What does corporate tax inversion or subsidies do. Does that increase the wealthy corporate voter base so let's stop them from voting. Why would a middle class wage earner not want to increase min wage. Look what it did under Clinton.
Why is SS, Medicare, Medicaid classified as socialism but you call corporate giveaways subsidies what the hell is the difference.


Overall our enomomy is slow. Forcing a raise at the bottom while continuing policies that slow the economy is a bad idea. So I think the point we are making is that yes of course it is good that ALL people get raises including the bottom tier. But our current administration is not helping that by forcing it with bad policies that ultimately don't support it. It is just another case of manipulating emotional sentiment of the lower tier earners in order to have their support at the polls.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:30:57   #
Airforceone
 
J Anthony wrote:
More nonsense. Sorry but you people defending slave-wages are the ones who don't seem to understand economics. You want a healthier economy? More jobs? More stability? Then people got to have more money to spend, and not just a smalll fraction of priveledged society, but all people. You peoplle kill me, you've really fallen for the Wall St talking-points. So you have no problem with handing billions of taxpayer dollars to degenerate gamblers posing as brokers and bankers, but God forbid we tweak a few laws so that a little more profit goes into the pockets of people doing hard, honest labor. Who are you to say they don't deserve it? Wages have stayed flat for decades, while the amount of billionaires have increased; the middle-class disipates, but Wall St does better than ever. If you don't understand the direct correllation, then you need to educate yourself and get on the right side. The burger-flippers and janitors and waiters and shelf-stockers contribute more productively to society than any Wall St parasite. And if you trust a single word uttered by any ivy-league or banker-sponsored economist, then you're just stupid. It's time to wake up. All working people are being screwed over mercilessly by the insidious partnership of government/Wall St. How long are we going to put up with it? I guess when they impose another "crash" on us, you fools will be blaming minimum-wage workers for being greedy? Please tell me you're not that dumb.
More nonsense. Sorry but you people defending slav... (show quote)


Very well articulated but the GOPTP cult followers on OPP have lost site of that concept. They are very sad people that think the corporate elite will take care of them. Pretty sad bunch of people. Thanks for a great post.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:35:14   #
MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
Kirk wrote:
Overall our enomomy is slow. Forcing a raise at the bottom while continuing policies that slow the economy is a bad idea. So I think the point we are making is that yes of course it is good that ALL people get raises including the bottom tier. But our current administration is not helping that by forcing it with bad policies that ultimately don't support it. It is just another case of manipulating emotional sentiment of the lower tier earners in order to have their support at the polls.

Kirk, that is the truth. You think the iberals in office really want people to make more. That would kill of 90% of their voters. But you can't make some of the people on opp understand basic economy 101.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:41:40   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
She Wolf wrote:
I agree. When you put a few more million in the pocket of a billionaire, he either uses it to buy a politician or he hides it in an off shore account so as not to pay his taxes. We are ruled by the elite. Why middle class citizens vote for these idiots either Democrat or Republican is a mystery to me.


Lesser of two evils. We need a third party, that isn't all hype. Good luck finding it.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:42:40   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
This has nothing to do with Corporate elite. If you have good education, work ethics you are in demand When you going to figure it out Personal Responsibility. Not gov. business is your business. Are you still a baby in your Mothers arms or a man to stand up and account for your self.
tdsrnest wrote:
Very well articulated but the GOPTP cult followers on OPP have lost site of that concept. They are very sad people that think the corporate elite will take care of them. Pretty sad bunch of people. Thanks for a great post.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:43:43   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Kirk wrote:
Overall our enomomy is slow. Forcing a raise at the bottom while continuing policies that slow the economy is a bad idea. So I think the point we are making is that yes of course it is good that ALL people get raises including the bottom tier. But our current administration is not helping that by forcing it with bad policies that ultimately don't support it. It is just another case of manipulating emotional sentiment of the lower tier earners in order to have their support at the polls.

Wanna bet a raise happens right before elections 2016?

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Nov 1, 2014 12:45:35   #
Kirk
 
MajorAhrens wrote:
Kirk, that is the truth. You think the iberals in office really want people to make more. That would kill of 90% of their voters. But you can't make some of the people on opp understand basic economy 101.


Yes I see us spinning around chasing our tails. Ultimately most of us want the same thing. For poeple to have opportunity to pursue their dreams and goals and to provide for their families. But the question is does our current administration and the democrat progressive movement put their agenda of more government control above the best interest and ideals of the American people by manipulating them with emotional rhedoric. It seems to be the case.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:49:26   #
jasfourth401
 
jimahrens wrote:
Just a quick note. President Obama has Brilliant Idea. Raise the minimum wage so all Americans can realize there Dreams. What I want to know is what good is that. There has to be jobs in-order to benefit from a higher wage. Does this make sense to you?


Yes. I would rather have the private sector pay than the government. Low wage earners receive a wide range of taxpayer funded benefits from healthcare, to housing, food stamps, etc.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:49:55   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
jimahrens wrote:
This has nothing to do with Corporate elite. If you have good education, work ethics you are in demand When you going to figure it out Personal Responsibility. Not gov. business is your business. Are you still a baby in your Mothers arms or a man to stand up and account for your self.


Are you aware most college graduates as well as trade school graduates can not find jobs? If I have one opening in my business, I have upwards of one hundred applications. Some are college graduates and some are trade school graduates.

As long as we allow monopolies we will have no jobs and slave wages.

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Nov 1, 2014 13:00:59   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
That has nothing to do with wages has to do with our Government chasing jobs overseas and one sided trade agreements. Very simple economics. Supply and Demand. When there is demand there are jobs when there are jobs wages go up because of demand . no rocket science to it. And if your running a business you should know this. Also the U.S. has the highest cooperate tax in the free world, and massive restrictions. Where a lot of the problem lies is the financial institutions.
She Wolf wrote:
Are you aware most college graduates as well as trade school graduates can not find jobs? If I have one opening in my business, I have upwards of one hundred applications. Some are college graduates and some are trade school graduates.

As long as we allow monopolies we will have no jobs and slave wages.

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Nov 1, 2014 16:16:48   #
Airforceone
 
MajorAhrens wrote:
I guess you should write George Soros and ask him.


What a dumb statement

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Nov 1, 2014 16:21:01   #
Airforceone
 
jasfourth401 wrote:
Yes. I would rather have the private sector pay than the government. Low wage earners receive a wide range of taxpayer funded benefits from healthcare, to housing, food stamps, etc.


It's also a start by creating more expendable income. So more money spent creates more jobs

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Nov 1, 2014 16:25:17   #
Airforceone
 
She wolf the US has the highest corporate tax rate but corporation in the US pay less taxes than any country in the free world because of loopholes in our tax policy. The average corporate tax paid is 12% and 1out of every. 4 actually pay zero taxes. Then add in subsidies and tax inversion it's even less. So stop the BS

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