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Oct 31, 2014 11:32:35   #
Grugore
 
Rufus wrote:
:thumbup: Bless you Grugore. I have read many studies and kids who are home schooled always outperform public school children even in socializing and social skills. Many times they are years ahead of public school children and get bumped up or can attend college early. In addition if they are Christians they can practice their beliefs freely without government harassment.


I actually went to a Christian school, until the ninth grade. My parents couldn't afford it anymore, so I went to a public school. I hated it. They weren't teaching me anything I didn't already know. I was better educated than most of the twelfth graders.. That's when I decided to join the Navy. Best decision I ever made. I pity anyone who has to attend public school. Some of them aren't bad, but most of them suck. Our children deserve better.

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Oct 31, 2014 11:48:02   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Grugore wrote:
I actually went to a Christian school, until the ninth grade. My parents couldn't afford it anymore, so I went to a public school. I hated it. They weren't teaching me anything I didn't already know. I was better educated than most of the twelfth graders.. That's when I decided to join the Navy. Best decision I ever made. I pity anyone who has to attend public school. Some of them aren't bad, but most of them suck. Our children deserve better.

I also went to Christian private schools until the fifth grade. When I entered the local school it was because I wanted to be with my neighborhood friends. Big mistake. I was over a year ahead of them and just went to be going . I learned to write in cursive in the first grade, then was told I couldn't do that when we moved in the second grade. I needed to learn to print. In public schools I learned to lie, skip class and take drugs. If I had it to do over I would have remained in Christian schools and probably could easily retire financially if I wanted to.

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Oct 31, 2014 11:50:56   #
JetJock Loc: Texas
 
My kids now in mid 40s went to public schools and I could see the change happening then and today would NEVER put them in PS cause they do not get a good education and what they do learn is tilted so far left it is not funny.

JFK could not win the republican nod for president today because he would be considered to far right. Sad but true.


Grugore wrote:
If I had a child, I would sacrifice anything to not have to send them to a public school. Public schools, and institutions of higher learning, are largely responsible for the mess this country is in. Ever since the liberals have taken them over, things have been on a steady decline.

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Oct 31, 2014 12:13:02   #
marjorie
 
get rid of the WHOLE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. Ex-president JIMMY CARTER has a lot to reveal about WHY he had the drive for such a huge increase in the national budget. All that funding could be back in the states.

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Oct 31, 2014 12:18:41   #
Grugore
 
Rufus wrote:
I also went to Christian private schools until the fifth grade. When I entered the local school it was because I wanted to be with my neighborhood friends. Big mistake. I was over a year ahead of them and just went to be going . I learned to write in cursive in the first grade, then was told I couldn't do that when we moved in the second grade. I needed to learn to print. In public schools I learned to lie, skip class and take drugs. If I had it to do over I would have remained in Christian schools and probably could easily retire financially if I wanted to.
I also went to Christian private schools until the... (show quote)


If only we had a time machine...SIGH!

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Oct 31, 2014 12:22:11   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
marjorie wrote:
get rid of the WHOLE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. Ex-president JIMMY CARTER has a lot to reveal about WHY he had the drive for such a huge increase in the national budget. All that funding could be back in the states.

Jimmy Carter was the worst president we ever had until creepy lying Barry Insane came on the scene. I read some books by Jimmy many many years ago and could not understand why he was pro Palestine and pro Muslim and anti Israel. He also claimed to be a Christian but how could that be when he was so mentally messed up and so weak and harmful to our country? Like Obama I will say understanding this is above my pay grade. Of course Obama never even had an honest paycheck as a failed community organizer and failed senator and now we pay him to be a failure. I do not truly know if any man in history has ever been as big a failure as Obama. Strange, isn't it?

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Oct 31, 2014 12:28:18   #
marjorie
 
There is no benefit to ISLAM here in these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Those who are now being indoctrinated through mosque attendance will be ones who will behead you. Where do they get the approval of building these buildings? Are there Muslims on the Planning & Zoning Boars? How about the City Council Board? How about the various other boards? Watch out AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oct 31, 2014 12:29:47   #
Grugore
 
Jimmy Carter was the worst president we ever had until creepy lying Barry Insane came on the scene. I read some books by Jimmy many many years ago and could not understand why he was pro Palestine and pro Muslim and anti Israel. He also claimed to be a Christian but how could that be when he was so mentally messed up and so weak and harmful to our country? Like Obama I will say understanding this is above my pay grade. Of course Obama never even had an honest paycheck as a failed community organizer and failed senator and now we pay him to be a failure. I do not truly know if any man in history has ever been as big a failure as Obama. Strange, isn't it?

Obama. The first President elected, for the color of his skin, rather than the content of his character.

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Oct 31, 2014 12:44:32   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Grugore wrote:
Jimmy Carter was the worst president we ever had until creepy lying Barry Insane came on the scene. I read some books by Jimmy many many years ago and could not understand why he was pro Palestine and pro Muslim and anti Israel. He also claimed to be a Christian but how could that be when he was so mentally messed up and so weak and harmful to our country? Like Obama I will say understanding this is above my pay grade. Of course Obama never even had an honest paycheck as a failed community organizer and failed senator and now we pay him to be a failure. I do not truly know if any man in history has ever been as big a failure as Obama. Strange, isn't it?

Obama. The first President elected, for the color of his skin, rather than the content of his character.
Jimmy Carter was the worst president we ever had u... (show quote)


The one thing Obama had going for him is that he is seen as being black He is half black and half white yet many people consider him to be black. Can you imagine the good he could have done for our country if he had a moral character and love in his heart. What a travesty to waste such a wonderful opportunity to bring both white and black people together as simply Americans. We can still pray and dream. Imagine if someone like Dr. Ben Carson were our president. I believe he would actually want to do many great things for America. For the moment evil prevails but with prayer and devotion perhaps God will have mercy on us and we can seek Him and turn to Him to heal our once great God fearing God respecting, God following country. Glory be to God.

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Oct 31, 2014 12:50:01   #
Grugore
 
Rufus wrote:
The one thing Obama had going for him is that he is seen as being black He is half black and half white yet many people consider him to be black. Can you imagine the good he could have done for our country if he had a moral character and love in his heart. What a travesty to waste such a wonderful opportunity to bring both white and black people together as simply Americans. We can still pray and dream. Imagine if someone like Dr. Ben Carson were our president. I believe he would actually want to do many great things for America. For the moment evil prevails but with prayer and devotion perhaps God will have mercy on us and we can seek Him and turn to Him to heal our once great God fearing God respecting, God following country. Glory be to God.
The one thing Obama had going for him is that he i... (show quote)



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Oct 31, 2014 13:06:26   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Rufus wrote:
:thumbup: Bless you Grugore. I have read many studies and kids who are home schooled always outperform public school children even in socializing and social skills. Many times they are years ahead of public school children and get bumped up or can attend college early. In addition if they are Christians they can practice their beliefs freely without government harassment.


Don't get me wrong since I am on your side in all this but I think that the day has come when home schooled kids won't do at all well on the SAT and other standardized tests that have been created to test kids that learned under Common Core. They won't do well at all unless someone teaches them the things that Common Core wants done and that would waste so much of the time of their lives.

Home schooled kids just won't do very good on those tests that have been prepared by the people who wrote the whole Common Core plan.

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Oct 31, 2014 13:18:18   #
Grugore
 
oldroy wrote:
Don't get me wrong since I am on your side in all this but I think that the day has come when home schooled kids won't do at all well on the SAT and other standardized tests that have been created to test kids that learned under Common Core. They won't do well at all unless someone teaches them the things that Common Core wants done and that would waste so much of the time of their lives.

Home schooled kids just won't do very good on those tests that have been prepared by the people who wrote the whole Common Core plan.
Don't get me wrong since I am on your side in all ... (show quote)


Irrelevant. I would rather have my kids be well educated. A kid who knows math would ace it on the SAT. They test for results, not methodology. The poor kids who learned common core math would actually be at a disadvantage. Have you ever seen how teachers are teaching them how to solve math problems. It's enough to make you weep.

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Oct 31, 2014 13:45:47   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
oldroy wrote:
Don't get me wrong since I am on your side in all this but I think that the day has come when home schooled kids won't do at all well on the SAT and other standardized tests that have been created to test kids that learned under Common Core. They won't do well at all unless someone teaches them the things that Common Core wants done and that would waste so much of the time of their lives.

Home schooled kids just won't do very good on those tests that have been prepared by the people who wrote the whole Common Core plan.
Don't get me wrong since I am on your side in all ... (show quote)


You may very well be right. I understand that even liberal democratic teachers were abhorred with common core. I doubt common core will stand . There are too many thinking people against us. I already know the liberal socialist have rewritten history and our kids books are full of lies and misinformation but I do not think common core will float.

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Oct 31, 2014 14:03:34   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Grugore wrote:
Irrelevant. I would rather have my kids be well educated. A kid who knows math would ace it on the SAT. They test for results, not methodology. The poor kids who learned common core math would actually be at a disadvantage. Have you ever seen how teachers are teaching them how to solve math problems. It's enough to make you weep.


Enough to make you weep, you say? As an old time teacher I have some real contact with present day teachers and the parents of the kids in school now.

Have you missed out on the fact that the new SAT tests were written up by the people who dreamed up Common Core and the tests will be based on Common Core curriculum? I hope you are right but people who have seen the tests don't seem to agree with you.

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Oct 31, 2014 14:06:13   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Rufus wrote:
You may very well be right. I understand that even liberal democratic teachers were abhorred with common core. I doubt common core will stand . There are too many thinking people against us. I already know the liberal socialist have rewritten history and our kids books are full of lies and misinformation but I do not think common core will float.


I believe that Common Core has already floated and there is little we can do about it till the failure is seen by enough people.

Now to get back to the benefits of Islam. I had to do some reading up on all that this morning after seeing some of the things on the site and, although, I saw nothing I wanted to agree with I could see too many things that fit progressive teaching and thinking.

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