rumitoid

Lol, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Your comments in the opening post, as clearly stated, were extremely one-sided. I asked if you wanted to revise those comments because taken at face value, as clearly stated in that post, you demonized the left and let the right be an oppressed minority suffering, along with people of color and gays, at the hands of the "devil." It is not a "rendition" of what you said: I used your words. Is it to be like Gingrich: "If you quote me, you're lying." A perfect example of the filter you try to assign to me.

bahmer

One may try growing a thicker skin so to speak. I to have been criticized and been called names as have others on here. After all there is a natural progression here you state an idea or whatever and someone disagrees with your idea and states their idea. OK if we left it there it would be fine. But we as humans can't leave it there can we? We have to fight for our idea be it good or be it bad. After awhile we start calling people names, you are still an individual and you can choose to either coll people names or not your choice. I choose not to and will stop answering name callers and disregard their remarks. Does it do any good I don't know you would have to ask them. If someone else joins in on that forum that does not call names I will answer them and not the name caller. Hopefully after awhile maybe people will get the message.

Bobbalu Loc: Kentucky

I would like to think there could at least be an equal exchange of ideas. I have found, since becoming independent, that both sides want , basically, the same thing , or they are so close it can't be called. It's just that both sides express things in ways the other ASSUMES to understand...but don't,...and rather than ASK what was the meaning they just continue to ASSUME ( and you KNOW what THAT does!! ) they already know what the other person meant because they have preconceived ideas of what they are going to say and mean , and are not willing to LISTEN and FIND OUT if they are correct in their assumptions. As long as the Nation is so devided because of these silly, often really STUPID, preconceived notions, we will NEVER be able to have an exchange of ideas that actually get anything DONE. PLEASE!!!!! I am BEGGING you. Set aside the thinks you ALREADY KNOW about other parties and take the time to get to KNOW how they express themselves and what they REALLY mean when they say certain things. And if you DON"T KNOW what they mean, politely ASK them for an explanation. WHAT is SO HARD about doing that? We are all anonymous on here , so even if you were to meet the person you are talking / listening to;o tomorrow neither would KNOW the other . We MUST come together here or we will all be no more.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

I think much of that comes from a desire to blame someone other than one's self for the troubles we face. Only through personal responsibility can things be made better. I think you've been much more civil than many. Good posts bro.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

There's plenty of bad to counterbalance the good. Happy hunting :roll:

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

they must not be all that good,I like them!

Ve'hoe

I was wrong you can get dumber,,,,, I think you are only able to impress yourself,,,,, but not me LOL

rumitoid

Never once--not ever, ever, ever--did I say I could not get dumber, so there.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

Yep. You demonstrate civility. Ve'hoe.

Rumitoid impresses me often, though we don't agree on much. He, also, can read a dictionary, and thereby has a "preconceived notion" of what words mean.

Why not instead of deriding your opponent, explain yourself? You must have a pretty good idea of where we're wrong, if ya ain't jes' as dumb as us.

Ve'hoe

You have missed the other posts between us,,,,, we have made peace,,, but yes I can get angry. I got angry because I was being derided,,, so I shot back... I am human too, but I also fixed it, and in the end like I was trying to do, I established some relation with the guy,,,,

Bobbalu Loc: Kentucky

I decided to stick around a while and just listen in. See how much I can learn anyway. I just wish we could all learn to be civil and not mistrust people so but I also guess there is plenty of reason , on ALL SIDES not to. I don't know how to change that because you cannot MAKE people have ethics, and you can't MAKE them be honest. :thumbup: :?:

rumitoid

Hmmm....

Bobbalu Loc: Kentucky

That seems to be a pretty good strategy hahaha SOUNDS right any way.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

It is your contention that using all weapons available to destroy your opponents is not good, as some weapons will destroy the wielder as well. Certain weapons, like our government should be off limits. Acknowledging the fact, I disagree.

It was this concept of a fair war that I cannot agree with. I don't believe it exists.

Do you still think I've twisted your words? Not taken them at face value?

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Ronald Reagan preached the evils of government for years - no one seemed to listen